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 Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience  [Re: Moonshoe]
#19827318 - 04/11/14 08:33 AM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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Encouraging to hear.
I've been eating only maybe 2 teaspoons per day for a month or so. Maybe less sometimes, rarely more. That's plenty for me.
I can't imagine eating those doses. I would be vomiting for sure.
I have some concern about addiction and withdrawal. I've taken a day off here and there but I enjoy the stuff so damn much, and it feels so benign, I find myself wanting to take it all the time.
I plan on doing a week long break like this to make sure I'm not in deeper than I think. Only problem is, I don't really want to. Time to test my will power.
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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: drr]
#19827348 - 04/11/14 08:42 AM (10 years, 7 days ago) |
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heheheheh me too man, me too. Shit's beautifulllll and pretty damn clean on the body compared to oxy, dope, etc.
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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: Moonshoe]
#19828073 - 04/11/14 12:03 PM (10 years, 7 days ago) |
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Moonshoe said:
Thank you for your kind words !
I am going to get off etizolam in the next three days. I expect some insomnia and no sleep for a few days and some muscle twitches but hopefully nothing more than that.
I may also cold
Turkey off Kratom for a week in a few days when I go to the states.
That should reset my tolerance nicely.
The canoe trip is still upcoming but I have decided to play it safe and enjoy the trip without any extra shenanigans
What are headed to the states for?
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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: weshroom]
#19829161 - 04/11/14 04:21 PM (10 years, 7 days ago) |
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My wife is presenting her research at a world summit and I will be there to help / facilitate the workshop.
We will also be doing some camping in the old growth forests and hiking.
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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: Moonshoe]
#19831937 - 04/12/14 09:22 AM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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Awesome, sounds like a good trip.
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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: weshroom]
#19831971 - 04/12/14 09:37 AM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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didn't read whole thread.
OP you're naive. 48 hours and you finally started to get sick (which is TOTALLY normal.) then you blame it on caffeine and etiz, both of which are considerably less addictive.
but for real though, give it till day 4 and then tell me you're not experiencing withdrawals.
If you want to do kratom once or twice a week that's totally fine, but every day and at unnecessarily high doses and you will have withdrawal. Don't protect an addiction, it's not doing you any good.
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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: collinZzZz]
#19831985 - 04/12/14 09:44 AM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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all this kratom lauding pisses me off.
It's an OPIATE. It's an awesome opiate. Probably my favorite and I've done oxymorphone, heroin and morphine. It is physically addictive.
it's an awesome plant drug but it's not a fucking health drink.
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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: collinZzZz]
#19832143 - 04/12/14 10:43 AM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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no, it is not an opiate.
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collinZzZz
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Opioid. It hit's that receptor. Subjectively there's no difference.
I Used kratom to maintain just like you would tabs or oxy.
It hurts to come off of. Have you ever been habituated to it??
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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: collinZzZz]
#19832290 - 04/12/14 11:30 AM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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I got to the point where I was taking 45-60 grams 5 out of 7 days of the week and then stopped abruptly. i was moody for a week or so but it's nothing like what i've heard people describe coming off oxy/heroin as being like
i do understand that they hit the same receptors and fully realize that the effects are comparable though. that's why i took it
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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: morrowasted]
#19832311 - 04/12/14 11:36 AM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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I really like your sig picture morrow
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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: weshroom]
#19832323 - 04/12/14 11:39 AM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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thank you kind sir
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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: Moonshoe]
#19832374 - 04/12/14 11:51 AM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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I know you're only on day one, but I agree that krat w/d is very minimal. I've taken it just like you (decent amounts daily for months), quit cold turkey, and the worst I experienced was a couple restless nights. That plant is a true blessing.
Some people complain of bad w/d from it though. They're either significantly more sensitive or the krat did something to their biochemistry. My perspective could be screwed up though; I've been addicted to most opiates and benzos, and have experienced near fatal withdrawals. So maybe I do get krat w/d, but it doesn't effect me.
Good luck man!
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To the guy insisting that kratom is an opiate/opioid and that it's much more addictive than caffeine and etizolam: LOL! Do some research.
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Moonshoe
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Yeah etizolam is a much more serious addiction than Kratom dude much more.
Anyways I will be cold turkey off
Kratom
For a full week In two days so I will find out how bad the withdrawal is and post here.
I'm honestly not too worried.
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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: collinZzZz]
#19832587 - 04/12/14 12:35 PM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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Quote:
collinZzZz said:
didn't read whole thread.
OP you're naive. 48 hours and you finally started to get sick (which is TOTALLY normal.) then you blame it on caffeine and etiz, both of which are considerably less addictive.
but for real though, give it till day 4 and then tell me you're not experiencing withdrawals.
If you want to do kratom once or twice a week that's totally fine, but every day and at unnecessarily high doses and you will have withdrawal. Don't protect an addiction, it's not doing you any good.
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collinZzZz said:
all this kratom lauding pisses me off.
It's an OPIATE. It's an awesome opiate. Probably my favorite and I've done oxymorphone, heroin and morphine. It is physically addictive.
it's an awesome plant drug but it's not a fucking health drink.
Extremely naive statements. While it touches on some opioid receptors it doesn't come even close to the opiate embrace of actual opiates. Caffeine is ~ the same level of addictiveness as kratom in my opinion depending on how heavy each habit is. Etiz is definitely not considerably less addictive... Do you know what etizolam is? Also, don't think he's exactly defending an addiction here, look at the thread title please.
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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: Snotfish]
#19832920 - 04/12/14 01:49 PM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: Moonshoe]
#19847674 - 04/15/14 08:50 AM (10 years, 3 days ago) |
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I used kratom almost daily 3-4 gram dose in the morning for about 6 months until i ran out... cant import anymore so i quit cold turkeys...
had ZERO withdrawals.
i wish i had some kratom because it is just so great
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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: AIRDOG]
#19849502 - 04/15/14 04:01 PM (10 years, 3 days ago) |
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That's a really low dose. I do 3-5 gram doses (sometimes higher) 5+ times per day. I can tell you, if you run off this stuff, you WILL have withdrawals.
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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: Snotfish]
#19849518 - 04/15/14 04:04 PM (10 years, 3 days ago) |
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It's really subjective man. I've taken 20+ g doses every day for months, and the worst w/d effect I had was some sleepless nights. No biggie.
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