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Kratom withdrawal - my experience * 2
    #19768824 - 03/30/14 02:02 PM (10 years, 1 day ago)

Just thought I should share - I have been using ten to fifteen teaspoons Of kratom a day every day for longer than six months.

I quit cold turkey and had zero withdrawals .

I feel good. No noticeable withdrawal whatsoever.

If 1 Is miserable and ten is euphoric I feel about a seven.

I am taking many supplements such as adrafinil, citicoline, piracetam, ginseng, ashwagandha and rhodiolla .

It is possible that these supplements are helping prevent withdrawal.

I will post updates each day without Kratom and report any withdrawal that might occur.

Just wanted to share and thank the mother earth for this amazing euphoric plant medicine and it's amazing lack
Of withdrawal effects even at very heavy and prolonged use.

:heart: :kratom: :heart:

I am quitting for a month then I will start using 2-3 days a week.


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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19768863 - 03/30/14 02:09 PM (10 years, 1 day ago)

how long you been clean?

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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: Jvells]
    #19768927 - 03/30/14 02:22 PM (10 years, 1 day ago)

Today is day 1 with no Kratom , 3:30 pm. Normally I take my first
Dose first thing in the morning. Will update each day.


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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19768939 - 03/30/14 02:25 PM (10 years, 1 day ago)

That's awesome that those supplements may be helping with the potential withdrawl. I used to take Ginkgo Biloba now I just take a men's multivitamin

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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: plektheplek]
    #19769030 - 03/30/14 02:46 PM (10 years, 1 day ago)

I encourage supplementation but advise against multivitamins


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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19769055 - 03/30/14 02:49 PM (10 years, 1 day ago)

it's not the withdrawal i think you'll have trouble with, it's the breaking of your habit.  daily use for 6mo is an ingrained routine.  sure, you're doing great today (good job, by the way) - but are you going to be able to break routine so easily?

i'm a creature of habit, could never do it.








good luck!

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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19769064 - 03/30/14 02:51 PM (10 years, 1 day ago)

If I use Kratom for two days or so it just quits working all together regardless of how much I take, 6g on day 1 would do more for me than 25g on day three....  Then I need about two to three weeks to really reset my tolerance.  It's peculiar, as other people seem to be able to get something out of it on a more routine basis.


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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19769231 - 03/30/14 03:32 PM (10 years, 1 day ago)

It continues to benefit me with daily use but less and less each day until it levels off at a nice feeling but if I do it once a week I feel real amazing euphoria.


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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19769612 - 03/30/14 04:48 PM (10 years, 1 day ago)

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Moonshoe said:
I encourage supplementation but advise against multivitamins




why against a multi?

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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19769623 - 03/30/14 04:50 PM (10 years, 1 day ago)

Quote:

Moonshoe said:
Today is day 1 with no Kratom , 3:30 pm. Normally I take my first
Dose first thing in the morning. Will update each day.




Well that is not very long.  I think there are some alkaloids in Kratom that have fairly long halflife.

Its not supposed to be that bad.  Effects different people differently of course but I've heard alot of people say the severity of withdrawal is comparable to a caffiene addiction.

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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #19769645 - 03/30/14 04:54 PM (10 years, 1 day ago)

It's more comparable to a cannabis addiction, IME.


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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #19769662 - 03/30/14 04:56 PM (10 years, 1 day ago)

Well I will update every day but day one so far so good , I actually think day 1 and 2 will be the worst and it
Will get better from 48
Hours on,
And first 24 is nothing sort of like mild fatigue but some caffeine compensates nicely.


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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: Legend]
    #19770007 - 03/30/14 06:29 PM (10 years, 22 hours ago)

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Legend said:
It's more comparable to a cannabis addiction, IME.




I would agree, in other words virtually no physical addiction or withdrawal, just a desire
To use because of the sense of enjoyment.

24+ hours since last Kratom dose and zero withdrawals. Very minor fatigue but really it's just living life without the warm blanket of
Kratom.


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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19770133 - 03/30/14 07:03 PM (10 years, 22 hours ago)

For me I think it's less addictive than cannabis. I haven't been using kratom for too long so I can't really say for sure.

With cannabis I get really high and when I become accustomed to getting that high when consuming everyday, things can become difficult when taking a leave of absence from it. With kratom its more of a mellow relaxation with a splash of euphoria. Kratom also allows me to dream and doesn't seem to effect my sleeping as heavily as cannabis does when I go for a tolerance break. Also I think I get a cloudy consciousness especially when using cannabis again after a long absence, with kratom, so far not so much.


Kratom seems a lot more school friendly, while cannabis now after not using it as much is more like a full blown psychedelic experience. It will be interesting to see in the summer time how these two substances meld together in light doses.


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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #19770187 - 03/30/14 07:14 PM (10 years, 22 hours ago)

10 to 15 teaspoons of kratom a day? You go through a few ounces every day?....I consider that to be a rather hefty amount of kratom for daily use, especially for 6 months. Amounts like that would have me puking, shakey, and dizzy.


Interesting to hear you're not experiencing much withdrawal from taking amounts like that daily. 2 to 3 teaspoons a day is a sufficient amount for my self, keeps me going all day. My length of use is usually a month or two of taking it daily, then a break for a week or so.

The first few times I went on a break from the leaf after a long period of daily use I was expecting there to be a few shitty days ahead, but I was surprised to find the "withdrawal" to be virtually non-existent. When I stop, I will sometimes feel lethargic during the day and have trouble getting to sleep at night, and feel kinda dull...part of that is likely mild withdrawal, but I think it's mostly just returning to how I feel with out the leaf :shrug: .



I don't really have any cravings for kratom, though, when I don't have it...it just "sounds nice" . And this is coming from someone that absolutely loves opiates (never been hooked though) .



...and I just ran out of kratom today as well :thumbdown: .





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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: openmind]
    #19770196 - 03/30/14 07:16 PM (10 years, 22 hours ago)

I ran out today as well. Luckily i have a nice sampler pack coming in this week.


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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19770243 - 03/30/14 07:27 PM (10 years, 21 hours ago)

I'm interested to see how you do.

So no excessive yawning?

No Chills?

No runny nose or bum?

Is your appetite and desire for your usual activities diminished at all?

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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: openmind]
    #19770520 - 03/30/14 08:37 PM (10 years, 20 hours ago)

Yes I was using 10-15 tsp a day eventually very excessive to be sure .

That's why it's all the more impressive that I have no withdrawal with cold turkey.


It has now been one full day without any Kratom and I feel fine.

Slight fatigue, life just feels a bit tougher, but that's not wothdrawal it's just the absence of the boost the Kratom was giving me. Honestly the withdrawals have been nothing.
Like maybe equivalent to getting an hour less sleep than usual or going without your morning cup of coffee.

Instead of feeling amazing like I did with Kratom I feel good-fine like a
Normal non Kratom user. I certainly don't feel bad or like I'm in withdrawal.

On a scale of 1-10 with 10
Being horrific opiate withdrawal and 1 being slightly crappy I would rate yhis "withdrawal" a .5.

It's basically nothing. I just lack the energy and euphoria Kratom gives me but not mix of a rebound or backlash at all.


It's basically a non existent withdrawal even at heavy prolonged use like I was doing.
It's just a return to how you feel without the benefit of Kratom which sucks by comparison but it's basically just normal life.

No nausea, no anxiety, no depression, no vomiting again- so far one day workout Kratom witbdrawal = non-existent.


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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19771070 - 03/30/14 10:22 PM (10 years, 19 hours ago)

I don't understand how people have NO WD from K, I came off a 8 month binge of 10 grams 4-5 X a day and had some pretty bad WD. I mean it wasn't anywhere as bad as H or oxys but I still felt like shit and my stomach was all fucked up for about 4 days. The worst part of it for me was the restless legs AND arms, the restless arms stuff almost made me go insane:crazy2:


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Re: Kratom withdrawal - my experience [Re: openmind]
    #19771101 - 03/30/14 10:29 PM (10 years, 18 hours ago)

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10 to 15 teaspoons of kratom a day? You go through a few ounces every day?....I consider that to be a rather hefty amount of kratom for daily use, especially for 6 months. Amounts like that would have me puking, shakey, and dizzy.

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doesnt 1 teaspoon equal roughly 2 grams? correct me if i'm wrong my memory is a lil hazy right now. he's not doing a few ounces every day.


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