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Invisiblewwwshroom
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Cactus?
    #1974581 - 10/02/03 10:32 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Who can identify this cactus?


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Re: Cactus? [Re: wwwshroom]
    #1975041 - 10/03/03 03:10 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Is it not peyote? Not that i've done it myself but they sure look the part.
Tell you what i'll give you my address, you post them to me and i'll test them for you, see if they work or not.


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Re: Cactus? [Re: wwwshroom]
    #1975055 - 10/03/03 03:16 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

looks like payote, but there are look a likes..


MODS: move this to the garden forum :alert:

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Re: Cactus? [Re: wwwshroom]
    #1975719 - 10/03/03 09:46 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

If they are peyote they need a good 15-20 years growing yet before they'll contain any appreciable mescaline. Stick with san pedro until 2025.


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Re: Cactus? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1975818 - 10/03/03 10:36 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Lophophora, not a lookalike (it has hair instead of spikes).

Edited by Agarico (10/03/03 10:37 AM)

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Re: Cactus? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1975952 - 10/03/03 11:14 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Alex123 said:
If they are peyote they need a good 15-20 years growing yet before they'll contain any appreciable mescaline. Stick with san pedro until 2025.




Ummm...No. You can have peyote that is just as strong as any wild 15 year old peyote if you graft it in 2 years. If you grow it from seed in good conditions you can have it in around 5 years. It doesnt take 15-20, it will mature in about 1 year on a graft and 1 year after that it will have almost the identical amount of alkaloids as a wild mature button.

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Re: Cactus? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1976228 - 10/03/03 12:27 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Oh, yes, they may be peyote. But this cactus is far more than 20 years old. It's had dynamite button harvested before.

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Re: Cactus? [Re: wwwshroom]
    #1976454 - 10/03/03 01:36 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Nice little lophos you got there :smile:

Is that straw though? Whats up with that?


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Re: Cactus? [Re: wwwshroom]
    #1976543 - 10/03/03 02:12 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

That must be very old...

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Re: Cactus? [Re: neuro]
    #1976659 - 10/03/03 02:46 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Yep..that is one old bastard..and all the buttons will have the sam alkaloid content as the original ones allready harvested..and that is a lophophora for sure..

Peace..

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Re: Cactus? [Re: stonErollEr1]
    #1976711 - 10/03/03 02:58 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

A friend's cousin pulled that up in south texas and brought it to me. I cut the buttons and planted it. Doubt I'll ever cut buttons from it again, but it is beatiful. That's wood chips for mulch.

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Re: Cactus? [Re: wwwshroom]
    #1978522 - 10/04/03 05:25 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Hey guys, just wondering if there are any poisonous cacti out there?
And also, could anyone please tell me the scientific name of a "Teddy" cacti (its got a  thing kind ovaly shaped structure)
And also what is the name of a cacti, which is nicked "Bluey". The one that looks like san pedro? maybe it is a san pedro
Thanks :tongue:


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Re: Cactus? [Re: wwwshroom]
    #1979988 - 10/04/03 09:48 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

holy shit!
not that i'm jealous but you've picked up that from the wild?
that's bad man! mescalito will eat your soul!

it would be a lot better if you have had just cut the buttons off and left the roots where they were, like whoever did  before you uproot it.


FH  :thumbdown:

Edited by felixhigh (10/04/03 09:52 PM)

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Re: Cactus? [Re: felixhigh]
    #1981275 - 10/05/03 12:42 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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felixhigh said:
holy shit!
not that i'm jealous but you've picked up that from the wild?
that's bad man! mescalito will eat your soul!

it would be a lot better if you have had just cut the buttons off and left the roots where they were, like whoever did  before you uproot it.


FH  :thumbdown:




He was doing the land a favor, as it was currently in possesion of a schedule I substance and if the cops would have found it they could claim texas as part of the crime and confiscated the whole state.

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Re: Cactus? [Re: CockyMandrill]
    #1981354 - 10/05/03 01:10 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Seriously though, peyote is endangered in the wild. Shoulda just cut off some buttons and taken em home and left the rest there. And if any were flowering leave the flowering ones with the root.

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Re: Cactus? [Re: neuro]
    #1981919 - 10/05/03 05:41 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Once again, a friend's cousin pulled it up and traded it to me for some kind of fungi. I told hime they should cut the buttons off and he said it takes too long and the DEA watches the areas where it grows.

Edited by wwwshroom (10/05/03 05:42 PM)

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Re: Cactus? [Re: wwwshroom]
    #1982070 - 10/05/03 06:52 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

They are f*** old

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Re: Cactus? [Re: Lawrence]
    #1986383 - 10/07/03 08:35 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

wwwshroom: Your friends cousin is full of shit.. :smile:

Well..don?t do it again and lets hope it survives..sorry...your friends cousin doesnt do it again... :wink:

Not much to do about it now, even if we might think it?s wrong.
Just another thing..if that is a wild specimen that is alot older than it looks. L.Williamsii is a lot smaller in the wild.
You better take care of that baby though..give it everything she wants..like ferts and alot of lights. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

peace..

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Re: Cactus? [Re: stonErollEr1]
    #1986890 - 10/07/03 01:28 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

i think it is still possible to correct this fucken damage!
you can still cut the buttons, let it callous and dig the roots back to where they were!
things like that get me really pissed off. [Happy gardeners]
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Edited by neuro (10/08/03 10:05 AM)

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Re: Cactus? [Re: felixhigh]
    #1988707 - 10/07/03 11:11 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

[Yeah.. gardeners are supposed to be happy people]

1. I did not remove the cactus from the wild and wasn't there when it happened. In fact I don't even personally know the guy who physically pulled the plant from the ground as my neighbor's--who is also a friend--cousin got it from someone else who actually pulled it up.

2. I've had the plant for a couple of years, my wife and I nursed it back to health after being pulled out of the ground and hauled around in plastic bag for several days.

3. There's no way in hell I'm entering the peyote fields of south Texas. The DEA watches them constantly. I do know that the guy who actually pulled it up was only able to do so because he works on oil rig in or near the peyote fields.

4. I never would've pulled the whole plant up myself--particularly if I were harvesting buttons. I wouldn't want to carry anything out the field I didn't need. These guys were so stupid they thought one needed to eat the entire cactus so they took the whole cactus.

Edited by neuro (10/08/03 10:04 AM)

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