Home | Community | Message Board


Everything Mushrooms
Please support our sponsors.

General Interest >> Political Discussion

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]
OfflineNiamhNyx
I'm NOT a 'he'
Female User Gallery

Registered: 09/01/02
Posts: 3,198
Last seen: 7 years, 6 months
Books
    #1973709 - 10/02/03 08:05 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

What books have had a strong impact on where you stand politically? While we're at it, where exactly do you stand politically?

Personally I'm an anarchist with anti-civilizational leanings. I suppose that makes me a "green anarchist" but I also apprectiate other forms of anarchism as well as other modes of thought not necessarily associated with anarchy.

The most significant books/authors for me have been:

Derrick Jensen- A Language Older Than Words, The Culture Of Make Believe.

Daniel Quinn- Ishmael, My Ishmael, The Story of B, The Holy.

John Zerzan, editor- Against Civilzation (a collection of essays and exerpts by a wide variety of authors.)

Daniel Pinchbeck- Breaking Open the Head (although this book isn't centred around politics it is a central theme. It's fundamentally about psychedelics and it ties psychedelic spiritually and anarchic politics together beautifully.)

Inga Muscio- Cunt: a declaration of independance. (An anarcha-feminist essential.)

Allen Ginsberg, Howard Zinn, Vandana Shiva, Chellis Glendenning, Julia Butterfly Hill....


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinewingnutx
Registered: 09/25/00
Posts: 2,268
Last seen: 5 years, 5 months
Re: Books [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #1973803 - 10/02/03 08:30 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

George Orwell's '1984' & 'Animal Farm'

R.A. Heinlein's 'Starship Troopers'



Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineflaxseedgruel
Stranger

Registered: 01/16/03
Posts: 25
Loc: moral high ground
Last seen: 6 years, 8 months
Re: Books [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #1985716 - 10/07/03 02:17 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

hmmm... a good one i read latley was Mutant Message from down under
it was a quick read as well.

fancy that another vancouver anarchist in the shroomery have you heard of the vanarchy group? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vanarchy/

love and rage


--------------------
beneath the pavement, the beach


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleInnvertigo
Vote Libertarian!!
Male

Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 16,296
Loc: Crackerville, Michigan U...
Re: Books [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #1986166 - 10/07/03 07:35 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

no book has swayed me one way or another. I base my beliefs on real-life experiences common sense logic. I have taken some poly-sci classes which only concreted my beliefs that the only way to believe is a belief system in which every person has individual rights.


--------------------

America....FUCK YEAH!!!

Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineEchoVortex
(hard) member
Registered: 02/06/02
Posts: 859
Last seen: 8 years, 2 months
Re: Books [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #1986254 - 10/07/03 08:45 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Simone Weil.

Get your hands on an anthology of her writings (the one edited by Sian Edwards is best) or try her book The Need for Roots.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinehongomon
old hand
Registered: 04/14/02
Posts: 910
Loc: comin' at ya
Last seen: 12 years, 7 months
Re: Books [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #1986768 - 10/07/03 02:36 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know how political they are, and I'm not sure about "strong impact", but definitely an influence:

Jon Krakauer's "Into the Wild"--interesting look at one failed attempt to "get away from it all."

"Gaviotas: A Village to Reinvent the World"--inspiring social experiment in eastern Colombia. In my opinion, a much healthier approach than the guy's from "Into the Wild."

I liked Quinn's interpretations of Adam and Eve/Cain and Abel.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinehongomon
old hand
Registered: 04/14/02
Posts: 910
Loc: comin' at ya
Last seen: 12 years, 7 months
Re: Books [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1986775 - 10/07/03 02:38 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I wonder why you don't count reading a book as a real life experience.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleInnvertigo
Vote Libertarian!!
Male

Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 16,296
Loc: Crackerville, Michigan U...
Re: Books [Re: hongomon]
    #1986797 - 10/07/03 02:48 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

I wonder why you don't count reading a book as a real life experience.




don't read into what i say, take it for what it is because that's what i'm saying.

books tend to be one persons perception of reality, when i read one i take what is being said with a grain of salt. nothing wrong with reading books to answer questions aboot your political beliefs but i was just answering his question by saying no book swayed me either way..


--------------------

America....FUCK YEAH!!!

Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinehongomon
old hand
Registered: 04/14/02
Posts: 910
Loc: comin' at ya
Last seen: 12 years, 7 months
Re: Books [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1986854 - 10/07/03 03:13 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

don't read into what i say, take it for what it is because that's what i'm saying.




?? I thought I was taking it for what it was...


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleInnvertigo
Vote Libertarian!!
Male

Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 16,296
Loc: Crackerville, Michigan U...
Re: Books [Re: hongomon]
    #1986859 - 10/07/03 03:14 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

nope....


--------------------

America....FUCK YEAH!!!

Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinehongomon
old hand
Registered: 04/14/02
Posts: 910
Loc: comin' at ya
Last seen: 12 years, 7 months
Re: Books [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1986866 - 10/07/03 03:17 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

alright, I'm confused... is reading a book part of your real life experience or not? (You're right to take them with a grain of salt--don't you take pretty much everything that way?)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleInnvertigo
Vote Libertarian!!
Male

Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 16,296
Loc: Crackerville, Michigan U...
Re: Books [Re: hongomon]
    #1986905 - 10/07/03 03:33 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

alright, I'm confused... is reading a book part of your real life experience or not?




a book is someonelse's reality and real life experience. the act of reading it is mine, but i've already said i don't have beliefs that follow the books that i've read...most of the books that i've read just solidified the beliefs i already have...


--------------------

America....FUCK YEAH!!!

Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinehongomon
old hand
Registered: 04/14/02
Posts: 910
Loc: comin' at ya
Last seen: 12 years, 7 months
Re: Books [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1986970 - 10/07/03 03:53 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Okay, cool. Sorry for being confused. I think it works both ways for me--books (ideas of others) help reinforce conclusions I've come to on my own, and sometimes one presents totally new concepts that work their way into my belief system.

I'll stop pulling this off the topic now...


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleInnvertigo
Vote Libertarian!!
Male

Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 16,296
Loc: Crackerville, Michigan U...
Re: Books [Re: hongomon]
    #1987500 - 10/07/03 07:02 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

I think it works both ways for me--books (ideas of others) help reinforce conclusions I've come to on my own, and sometimes one presents totally new concepts that work their way into my belief system.




same goes for this website though rarely does it happen that something is so profound that i question my whole belief system. To date the only MAJOR change to my beliefs has been towards the Catholic religion, i bet anyone here could guess why.


--------------------

America....FUCK YEAH!!!

Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisibleafoaf
CEO DBK?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/08/02
Posts: 32,665
Loc: Ripple's Heart
Re: Books [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1987501 - 10/07/03 07:02 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

most of the books that i've read just solidified the
beliefs i already have...


I've been trying to read books on both sides of issues
I've been studying lately for the sake of perspective,
if anything.

do you find that you tend to pick up books that will
likely conform to your current point of view?


--------------------
All I know is The Growery is a place where losers who get banned here go.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleInnvertigo
Vote Libertarian!!
Male

Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 16,296
Loc: Crackerville, Michigan U...
Re: Books [Re: afoaf]
    #1987516 - 10/07/03 07:06 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

do you find that you tend to pick up books that will
likely conform to your current point of view?




Not really but i will admit when i hear a whining liberal i do tend to become a bit glassy-eyed. I would read a book from a liberal if it was entertaining. I get bored easily if it's the same ol "republicans are this, Republicans are that....blah blah blah..." I'm neither so i don't give a fuck, they're all the same to me.


--------------------

America....FUCK YEAH!!!

Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinewingnutx
Registered: 09/25/00
Posts: 2,268
Last seen: 5 years, 5 months
Re: Books [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1987638 - 10/07/03 07:38 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Chris Hitchens and Mickey Kaus are good lefties to read. So is George Orwell.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisibleafoaf
CEO DBK?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/08/02
Posts: 32,665
Loc: Ripple's Heart
Re: Books [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1988636 - 10/08/03 12:40 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

in that case, Franken's latest book is effing hilarious.

I mean, all politics aside, the guy is a comedic genius.

Hitchens is a little dry for me...


--------------------
All I know is The Growery is a place where losers who get banned here go.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblez@z.com
Libertarian
Registered: 10/13/02
Posts: 2,876
Loc: ATL
Re: Books [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #1988770 - 10/08/03 01:30 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

NiamhNyx said:
What books have had a strong impact on where you stand politically?



The Law by Frederick Bastiat was the most influential thing I have read so far. The Law is closely followed by That Which is Seen and That Which is unseen. Both are great works and neither one is all that long. I suggest you all read them.


--------------------
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinehongomon
old hand
Registered: 04/14/02
Posts: 910
Loc: comin' at ya
Last seen: 12 years, 7 months
Re: Books [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1988832 - 10/08/03 01:49 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Which would you prefer: Franken or Coulter?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]

General Interest >> Political Discussion

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Palin attempted to ban books in her town as mayor!
( 1 2 all )
supernovasky 1,465 30 09/03/08 06:08 PM
by Prisoner#1
* Economics for Real People(Full Book Posting): Cover, Acknowledgements, Contents, Introduction Mr.Al 1,654 14 11/22/08 11:48 PM
by Mr.Al
* Canadian book burning Rogues_Pierre 444 4 03/24/06 10:03 PM
by Basilides
* party unity my ass...
( 1 2 all )
Annapurna1
1,889 36 08/02/08 11:33 PM
by Mushmonkey
* There is more than one way to burn a book. wingnutx 902 14 10/25/05 06:29 AM
by Anisotropic
* Author's sales jump after Osama mentions book Catalysis 597 13 01/22/06 11:35 AM
by Phred
* Conservatives Tout Anti-Hillary Book
RandalFlagg
946 10 06/22/05 01:29 AM
by Silversoul
* The New Pearl Harbor national book disscussion sancho 327 0 06/24/04 09:17 PM
by sancho

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Prisoner#1, Enlil
1,101 topic views. 0 members, 1 guests and 2 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
Edabea
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2016 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.063 seconds spending 0.004 seconds on 16 queries.