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Psilocybin+Lsa+An maoi-Good idea or bad idea?
    #19686117 - 03/12/14 02:42 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Also what is the most efficient way to extract and mix these chemicals? SWIM is just experimenting here.. :grin:

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Re: Psilocybin+Lsa+An maoi-Good idea or bad idea? [Re: thirdeye333]
    #19686231 - 03/12/14 03:10 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I wouldn't do it personally. People do this sort of thing with DMT but since thats an endogenous chemical I'd be careful with unnatural to the brain chemicals and maoi.


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Re: Psilocybin+Lsa+An maoi-Good idea or bad idea? [Re: plambe]
    #19686362 - 03/12/14 03:39 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

3 grams rue tea, filtered, Reduced to shot.
CWE of 500 Heavenly Blue Morning Glory.
Lemon tek/tea of 2 grams mukk; or just eat them if you've a strong stomach.

Rue shot washed down with Morning Glory CWE.  Let that settle in the stomach for 15-20 minutes and then eat or drink the mukk.



Good idea/bad idea?

Yes.:psychsplit:


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2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
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Re: Psilocybin+Lsa+An maoi-Good idea or bad idea? [Re: flickedbic]
    #19686546 - 03/12/14 04:22 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

lsa gives really bad stomach cramps an nausea for many people. rue can be a little hard on the gut too. mixing those 2 together with mush sounds like a recipe for being on the floor holding your stomach trippin out. :shrug:


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Re: Psilocybin+Lsa+An maoi-Good idea or bad idea? [Re: Rewindicus]
    #19686549 - 03/12/14 04:23 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Also you'd probably want to wait a little bit for the rue to kick in then take the psychedelic.

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Re: Psilocybin+Lsa+An maoi-Good idea or bad idea? [Re: ChinChiller]
    #19686676 - 03/12/14 04:51 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Might try microdosing all 3 to get the flavor.  Sublingually apply crushed HBWR & rue; wait 40 minutes to spit everything out before chewing down the boomers.


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1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


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Re: Psilocybin+Lsa+An maoi-Good idea or bad idea? [Re: Rewindicus]
    #19686711 - 03/12/14 04:58 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Rewindicus said:
lsa gives really bad stomach cramps an nausea for many people. rue can be a little hard on the gut too. mixing those 2 together with mush sounds like a recipe for being on the floor holding your stomach trippin out. :shrug:




The stomach cramps are caused by the indigestible seeds poking the stomach. Think about it: rue and MG seeds are both seeds. The simple solution is preparations where the solids bits have been strained and discarded. The only people they cause stomach cramps for are the people who don't strain out the solid bits.

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Re: Psilocybin+Lsa+An maoi-Good idea or bad idea? [Re: s240779]
    #19687366 - 03/12/14 06:59 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Da2ra said:
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Rewindicus said:
lsa gives really bad stomach cramps an nausea for many people. rue can be a little hard on the gut too. mixing those 2 together with mush sounds like a recipe for being on the floor holding your stomach trippin out. :shrug:




The stomach cramps are caused by the indigestible seeds poking the stomach. Think about it: rue and MG seeds are both seeds. The simple solution is preparations where the solids bits have been strained and discarded. The only people they cause stomach cramps for are the people who don't strain out the solid bits.





i had stomach issues from teas made from lsa, rue, and mush before. Plant matter and fats do cause a lot of stomach issues for most people but the chemicals themselves have purgistic/vaso constricting effects on the body.

My question is why is OP wanting to mix mush lsa and an maoi? is it because your low on stock and trying to maximize a trip or do you really wanna try that combo with those 3?

have you taken an maoi with another hallucinogen before? It can be QUITE jarring for the inexperienced.


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Re: Psilocybin+Lsa+An maoi-Good idea or bad idea? [Re: s240779]
    #19687394 - 03/12/14 07:06 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Plant matter and fats do cause a lot of stomach issues for most people but the chemicals themselves have purgistic/vaso constricting effects on the body.



Very true.  With LSA I feel there is stomach discomfort from seed (filter) and nausea from saponins (stir; don't shake in extraction) and the seretonergic nausea from LSA itself (Use Lemon essential oil or Ginger predose to prevent this).


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sublingually apply crushed HBWR & rue; wait 40 minutes to spit everything out before chewing down the boomers


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I've just done this with 6 HBWR and a few small pinches of rue.  I chewed down maybe .3g of shrooms an hour ago and am starting to feel light, content, slightly jovial and a little spacy.  This feels really nice, however; serene.  I think I'll vaporize a bowl topped with some Caapi leaf, Lotus stamen and Sage. 


This feels healthy; but this is a very low dose.


LSA should be peaking soon. 

:pipesmoke:

Edit +30 min peaking and I'm actually very stimulated.  Must be from the small amount of shrooms; normally shrooms are sedating but small doses are stimulating for me.  I'm getting a little bit of waving of the visual field.  This is nice. 

+45 min stimulation ebbs, comfort grows.

Randomly playing:


This feels like a nicely potentiated combo; I would definitely dose low and work up to a comfortable level of good effects.  I feel I could have done with ~ 2g and 9 seeds.


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1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


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Blessing.

Edited by flickedbic (03/13/14 09:43 AM)

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Re: Psilocybin+Lsa+An maoi-Good idea or bad idea? [Re: flickedbic]
    #19689950 - 03/13/14 09:41 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds like a vomit fest to me

But everyone does dumb things once and a while

And you don't need to use SWIM... We know its you...

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Re: Psilocybin+Lsa+An maoi-Good idea or bad idea? [Re: HarryL]
    #19690447 - 03/13/14 11:44 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

You could do a more specific extraction to minimize the side effects of LSA seeds
https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Kash%27s_Advanced_LSA_Extraction ; or whatever google has plenty

Same for the rue, i did tea once, the next day i ordered some stuff eventually did
https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/The_Tao_of_Rue_Extraction
Rue tea is masochism
As for the shrooms, dry powder in capsules is may favorite

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Re: Psilocybin+Lsa+An maoi-Good idea or bad idea? [Re: thoraxx] * 1
    #19690543 - 03/13/14 12:18 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Personally, I've won't even do shrooms without LSA anymore.
I think it's that good.

I just make a CWE and wash down the shrooms with it.
If I were to use an maoi, I would put it in the CWE, but I use harmine hcl.

You can add the maoi if you want but I don't think it's necessary unless
you've got limitations and a specific goal.

The RIMAs can be really nauseating.
Extracts are obviously best.

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Re: Psilocybin+Lsa+An maoi-Good idea or bad idea? [Re: flickedbic]
    #19723992 - 03/20/14 01:27 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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flickedbic said: Sublingually apply crushed HBWR & rue; wait 40 minutes to spit everything out before chewing down the boomers.




Holy shit
Thats just masochism, how could you punish yourself with this vile stuff

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Re: Psilocybin+Lsa+An maoi-Good idea or bad idea? [Re: thoraxx]
    #19727482 - 03/21/14 09:26 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Are you speaking of taste?
It's not great but I've tasted much worse than a bit of seeds for the sake of an experience.


The effects were anything but punishment.  I can't wait to try again with a larger dose!


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.

Edited by flickedbic (03/21/14 02:00 PM)

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Re: Psilocybin+Lsa+An maoi-Good idea or bad idea? [Re: flickedbic] * 1
    #19728406 - 03/21/14 01:43 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Yea i meant the taste, mustve been baked bc i didnt realize i commented on that earlier in the thread lol
But damn ever since i tried some high dose rue tea, i cant get this nasty sensation out of my head
That plus the HBWR seeds, just the idea of keeping it in my mouth for half an hour makes me sick
Great to hear about your experience tho, i hope to try it myself very soon
I have already extracted myself alot of rue and working on a pure LSA extraction right now, first batch is almost done

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Re: Psilocybin+Lsa+An maoi-Good idea or bad idea? [Re: thoraxx]
    #19728763 - 03/21/14 03:22 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I literally just got some shrooms and mg seeds for something just like this! excited let me know how you feel next day / day after i always heard lsa has awful after effects.

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Re: Psilocybin+Lsa+An maoi-Good idea or bad idea? [Re: AndersonCoopmasta]
    #19728776 - 03/21/14 03:26 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I feel a nice afterglow with LSA; unless I forget to filter well!  Then the next day can also be rough.


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.

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