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Corporal Kielbasa


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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: SuperD]
#19725968 - 03/20/14 09:48 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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ferrel_human
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Finally I have found a way of breakngrock with out have chpis fly all over the place. The high wall keeps it all together.

I use the hammer to break the rocks on the iron cap. Its a lot of work but I got 3 babies I need to pot up and there isnt much time before i go back to work.
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ferrel_human
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#19746114 - 03/25/14 05:04 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is the final product. Looks pretty damn good if i do say so myself.

And the 3 Lowe's refugees. With those gay ass flowers still stuck. I mean what the point of this pointless shit. Looks like shit but I hope it comes off by itself.

Its almost coming full circle. I am so glad to be a part of this community. With the rght direction I think I can make the stone eaters a super revolution.
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tropidolaemus
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#19746483 - 03/25/14 06:20 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I myself have moved to an almost entirely mineral soil in the last 6 months. So far so good for all my Lophs.
The Koehresii are the last to switch over. Any thoughts on if this is not a good idea due to their growth in more alluvial soil, dry river bed location?
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ferrel_human
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: tropidolaemus]
#19747453 - 03/25/14 09:24 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think it should just be a good all around mix.
I used limestone, mica-schist, granite, clay pots, sandstone. Bar none the best I have used. And they really seem to like it.
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intelligentlife
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#19747894 - 03/25/14 10:59 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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ferrel_human said: This is the final product. Looks pretty damn good if i do say so myself.

Looks almost identical to mine, except I have some coco coir mixed to rocks, I see coir is best because it's neutral with fertilizers and hold water some time.
What stuff you have there? I have collected lots of random rocks, pumicide etc to do growing medium. When plant is taken out from pot, it can be seen rocks and pumicide are very tight attached to roots.
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Horticulture
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: intelligentlife]
#19747929 - 03/25/14 11:09 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I really like the notion of "stone compost". This is a very cool thread, thanks for the read fh.
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Me_Roy
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: Horticulture]
#19748231 - 03/26/14 12:57 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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theMallacht
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: Me_Roy]
#19799917 - 04/05/14 04:04 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I too have joined the Stone Age... This new guy has been potted up, more to come very soon. 

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ferrel_human
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: theMallacht]
#19800040 - 04/05/14 04:37 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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theMallacht said: I too have joined the Stone Age... This new guy has been potted up, more to come very soon. 


Awesome job bro. 
You will see nothing but good results with this mix. My pelecyphora strobiliformis and my astrophytum ornatum are on their way to flowering. I cant wait.
This is a very simple mix of granite- schist, granite, crushed clay pots, limestone and sandstone. All equal parts.
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theMallacht
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#19800356 - 04/05/14 05:56 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alright, so I just potted up a bunch more and you know me, I just couldn't resist doing a little side-by-side. All mixes consist of mostly rock (ferrel_human's mix) mixed with soil, and/or coco.
Here we have the following groups:
SCR = Soil, Coco, Rock
CR = Coco, Rock
R = Just pure rock
Here it all is from above:
 
SCR:

CR:

Pure Rock:

The rest of the rock I just couldn't resist using as a light top dressing on a bunch of different cacti as it's unfortunately really hard to find a lot of those rocks around here.
I will keep this updated.
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Edited by theMallacht (04/06/14 12:43 AM)
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ferrel_human
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: theMallacht]
#19800783 - 04/05/14 07:45 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I could have done a side by side but the need for rock is too strong. I have 2 ariocarpus fissuratus and a copiopoa that need to be set in rock.
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ferrel_human
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#19852805 - 04/16/14 08:15 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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My new additions to the stone family.
Ariocarpus kotschoubuyanus elephantidens

Epithelantha bokeii

Ariocarpus kotschoubuyanus macdowelli

And making their ethnobotanical garden debut Astrophytum caput-medusae seedlings.
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LSoares
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#19853213 - 04/16/14 10:23 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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ferrel_human said: My new additions to the stone family.
Ariocarpus kotschoubuyanus elephantidens

Epithelantha bokeii

Ariocarpus kotschoubuyanus macdowelli

And making their ethnobotanical garden debut Astrophytum caput-medusae seedlings.

Nice plants, Ferrel. And those Astros...
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ferrel_human
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: LSoares]
#19853251 - 04/16/14 10:38 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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They are small now but they will be nice show pieces.
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Desert Delerium


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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#19886027 - 04/23/14 12:04 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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All the love for the Stone Eaters Revolution!
Today I made up a mix of what I had lying around.
 Roughly equal parts of each. From left to right they are andesite and granite, sandstone, pumice, terra cotta shards, vermiculite, pea gravel, and red lava rock. I didn't have any limestone on hand. Should I add some horticultural lime to the mix? If so how much? I'm very excited to find a cactus worthy of this mix.
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LSoares
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: Desert Delerium]
#19886311 - 04/23/14 02:02 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Is that horticultural lime a powder? If so, I would keep it out of my pots. Try to locate some limestone chippings instead, they will act as a slow (actually, VERY slow) release corrective. However, a recent discussion on the BCSS forum suggests that adding limestone to your pot mixes is doubtfully beneficial, if not detrimental.
I will keep adding a handful of chippings to every bucket of mix I make, though (for those plants who seem to favour it in habitat, that is). I'm not convinced.
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Corporal Kielbasa


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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: LSoares]
#19887593 - 04/23/14 12:10 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looking great fellas!
Would crushed oyster shell be a reasonable substitute for limestone?
Edited by Corporal Kielbasa (04/23/14 12:16 PM)
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LSoares
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I suspect crushed shells will degrade faster, but other than that I don't see why not. Make sure you wash it thoroughly, in case there's some organic contamination.
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intelligentlife
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: LSoares]
#19888138 - 04/23/14 02:40 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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LSoares said: I suspect crushed shells will degrade faster, but other than that I don't see why not. Make sure you wash it thoroughly, in case there's some organic contamination.
I have used crushed egg shells mixed to stones. Small amounts of it didn't do any harm.
It acts more like a fertilizer, there are some business sell garden stuff and their new product as micro fertilizer is just powder form crushed egg shells.
Anyway, I have not find any good/bad about those add to every soil mix I have. Have been used them for a while, I collect them as big ones, then dry and give a very small pure water wash and then let them dry and they're ready to add to rock mix. I think they slowly decay there or something. Even in seedling tray they doesn't caused that white mold usually organic stuff does. I just use egg shells very small amounts compared other material in the mix.
Especially some mexican small tap root plants what have mostly rocks in grow medium but also coco coir and egg shells, I barely water those anyway.. Even now when season is going on I keep them dry until they are really getting soft due to lack of water for weeks.
Can't say how bad it is to use crushed egg shells in cacti mix with rocks but afaik I haven't find out they have done any harm.. I have add also some for san pedro plants when I add fresh new fertile soil for them. Those a just a bit problem species because of limited space, these small plants would be very good and most likely adapt their environment indoors at windowsill here.
I have think about there is anyway in their habitat some point probably caused by animals and egg shells are almost everywhere around randomly. I just don't know how long it takes those decay to organic material. I haven't seen they decay fast when used as chips mixed to rocks as small amount and washed before add. I haven't seen they start molding so easily in dry soil mix. I have used those also for seedlings, just minimal amount mixed to coco coir what is mixed to rocks.
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