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A Burger.
#1971857 - 10/02/03 03:09 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Poking around here, I've noticed that there is no thread dedicated to a good burger. Seeing as I'm a big fan of the bbq, and definitely lovin' the various good burgers in town (stay F.I.T. -- eat Fatburger, In-n-Out, & Original Tommy's ), I've decided to outline a pictorial of a typical day at the grill for yours truly.
Spice is nice, and I love to add as much flavour to anything as possible. Not picutred, but definitely loved and used is Lea & Perrins Worcestershire Sauce.
I recommend forming your own patties from ground meat. My personal favorite is to use the 80% lean ground beef. If you use too lean of a meat, you run the very real risk of cookin' up a dry burger After workin' the patty out by hand molding it into a ball, pressin' the edges and flatening it, it's time to marinade. For this burger I used a Worcestershire bath, topped off with a liberal helping of ground cayenne pepper and onion powder. Sits at room temperature for ~30min.
Any good burger has onions on it. Some may like 'em raw, others plain grilled.. I take mine with some e.v. olive oil (in this instance basil flavoured, but that's not necessary) sprinkle with more cayenne pepper and fresh ground black pepper. Fry 'em up 'til they get golden, I like to leave a little crunch in 'em.
Of course we have lettuce. This is red leaf.
After the marinade, the patty goes on the grill. I keep my grill cranked up to the high- est setting so it will slightly char the outside of the meat, but keep it moist and just a bit pink on the inside. Upon grill placement, I will dash some spice on the patty, in this case a Montreal "Grill Mates" all purpose blend. When using salts, you always want to put them on just before grilling - otherwise it will draw out the mois- ture from your meats!
When the patty gets a bit puffy and golden on the edges, I usually go for the flip
Grill marks are always nice - this grill is hot enough that it only takes another 2-3 min- utes to finish off this bad boy. I throw a slice of cheese (like it to be sharp cheddar, but American is the only one in the house) on the burger just a minute before it is done and close the grill lid. At this time or just before, one should also throw their buns on the grill if they like the toasted effect.
Spiralin' on those condiments. Here we see ketchup and spicy brown mustard. Some may want to consider a thin layer of mayo on the top bun.. or even crazy things like Ranch or BBQ sauce.
On with the onions
Then pile on some hand leafed lettuce and medium sliced sliced tomato, along with some more onions and..
Behold! A burger:
Attention: This is only a representation of a good burger. Please do not attempt to eat your monitor. Bonus items on any burger might include: avocado, bacon, red onion, many different base meats & cheeses, chili; or less traditionally: pinapple, cilantro, canadian bacon, hot sauce, and anything you could think to slap inbetween two pieces of bread. Enjoy eating 
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Re: A Burger. [Re: geokills]
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Re: A Burger. [Re: geokills]
#1972022 - 10/02/03 06:33 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Now that's what a burger should be like!
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Re: A Burger. [Re: Jackal]
#1972093 - 10/02/03 07:49 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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indeed!
too bad burgers don't stay good in the mail because if they did you could send me one
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Re: A Burger. [Re: stefan]
#1972120 - 10/02/03 08:03 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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sweet! I also like mushrooms on my burger!
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Re: A Burger. [Re: geokills]
#1972327 - 10/02/03 09:42 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's a good looking burger. But what's with the cheese? It looks artificial
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Re: A Burger. [Re: zeta]
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Yea, unfortunately that is processed Kraft American "Deluxe" Cheese. I would almost always prefer some sharp cheddar or swiss, or even some smoked mozzerella or jarlsburg... but you gotta work with what ya got on hand. Mushrooms are a good call for a burger, and I would have loved to have a larger heartier onion or potato bread bun.
But this is simply an example of the beginning... the possibilities are endless
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Re: A Burger. [Re: geokills]
#1973621 - 10/02/03 05:39 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Even so... that's a banging burger. I like to roll the meat into a ball and poke holes in it and fill them with Worcestershire sauce, then make it into a patty, before I marinate it
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Yea, that's a good way to do it too. I pinched the edges of my patty to make a shallow bowl in the top and the worcestershire was completely absorbed by the time it went on the grill. I also think that by making the edges of the patty beefier, you get more of an even cook in the center 
I'm no connoisseur, but at the time I was drinkin' this 1995 Muscat Alexandria and it was one of the best wines I've had the pleasure of drinking

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Re: A Burger. [Re: geokills]
#1974136 - 10/02/03 08:22 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im a gona hang that pic on my wall..
Nice.
Ever stuff a burger with cheese before grilling? I like em that way with sauted mushrooms on top.
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Re: A Burger. [Re: GabbaDj]
#1984710 - 10/06/03 06:29 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Stuffin' a burger with cheese? That sounds like a sweet idea!! How you go about it? I imagine you just take a rectangular chunk of cheese and build the patty around it? ... what if the burger patty gets porous and cheese starts drippin' everywhere? teach me
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Re: A Burger. [Re: geokills]
#1985445 - 10/06/03 10:36 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Whats a good way to keep from burgers from breaking apart when your cooking them?
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Well for a burger to keep together, it's gotta be made propa before it even hits the grill. When you make your patties, ensure you're compacting the meat enough. I roll the ground meat (1/4-1/3 lb) in a ball and 'play catch' with myself to make it into a giant meatball shape. Then I press it flat between the palm of my hands and place on a plate or other smooth flat surface.
From there I just make sure that the thing is evenly molded and if the edges are looking scketchy you can always reinforce the danger-zone by kneeding the meat towards the outer regions, or simply mashing in the disgruntled patch of meat and reforming the patty a bit. As stated above, I also like to make the edges a bit beefier than the center as the rim gets exposed to a lotta heat and cooks much quicker - the raised edge also works well for placing a marinade prior to cooking
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Re: A Burger. [Re: geokills]
#1985877 - 10/07/03 01:24 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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to stuff a burger with cheese, make 2 thin patties and sandwich the cheese ( i like mozzarella or swizz) in between and seal them off.
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Re: A Burger. [Re: Audi0]
#1986074 - 10/07/03 03:48 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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haha nice one mate...reminded me of that bbq we had at your place
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Re: A Burger. [Re: boO]
#1986636 - 10/07/03 11:32 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you add an egg to the beef when your mixing it up, that'll help hold it together as well...
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Re: A Burger. [Re: geokills]
#1986887 - 10/07/03 01:26 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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No real rhyme or reason to stuffing cheese in a burger.. I like to use shredded cheese or blue cheese, mix it with mushrooms, garlic, salt and pepper. Make the stuffed burgers just like you would make ravioli. If some cheese comes out while cooking, consider that a bonus.
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Re: A Burger. [Re: geokills]
#1986941 - 10/07/03 01:42 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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If your burger was spicy muscat wouldn't be a bad pairing, though it's a little sweet for 'typical' pairing.
One of my favorite wines though, that burger is making my mouth water while @ work. I just ate a bagel with creme cheese. It didn't do justice.
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Re: A Burger. [Re: Raadt]
#1987137 - 10/07/03 02:54 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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> If your burger was spicy
It sure was 
> a bagel with creme cheese
You gots to throw some sliced red onion, smoked salmon, and dill on that mofo
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Re: A Burger. [Re: geokills]
#1988069 - 10/07/03 07:57 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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stop burger from falling apart answer:
add a egg white or whole egg break up bread into crumbs work the the patty in your hand so the whole thing is smooth espesially the sides..and dotn just push a ball flat.
i wish i had a indoor grill
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Re: A Burger. [Re: geokills]
#1988187 - 10/07/03 08:30 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
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Oh man that brings back alot of memories. I think that?s about all we ever ate throughout summer. Some joints, some beer, some burgers, and some lawn chairs.
God, I miss those days...
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What's there to miss?... there'll be plenty more where those came from
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Re: A Burger. [Re: geokills]
#1988394 - 10/07/03 09:20 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Death to the school year... DEATH I tell ya!!
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Re: A Burger. [Re: geokills]
#1996582 - 10/10/03 09:37 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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where's mine? ;p
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Re: A Burger. [Re: Raadt]
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Heh, you were invited to come over for the midsummer bbq bash - you just stood us all up
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Re: A Burger. [Re: geokills]
#2002304 - 10/12/03 11:12 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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wow... *high five*
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Re: A Burger. [Re: geokills]
#2002334 - 10/12/03 11:30 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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very nice!
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Re: A Burger. [Re: ]
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summers not too far away, is it?
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Re: A Burger. [Re: Kremlin]
#2084315 - 11/08/03 02:49 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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I hope not.
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LS when u comin down from Berk? We will have to grill it up at my apt.
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Re: A Burger. [Re: geokills]
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Re: A Burger. [Re: geokills]
#3000698 - 08/13/04 12:31 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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After the unspoken acts of glutton that we have participated in this summer, it is time for this thread to be updated...
/me waits for geo's digi cam battery...
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Re: A Burger. [Re: Stein]
#3763987 - 02/10/05 07:40 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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yummy burger. I'm glad you bumped this. I had one yesterday w/ grilled onion and mushroom, swiss, mustard and lettuce
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Re: A Burger. [Re: Kremlin]
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NEVER EVER SQUEEZE THE BURGER WITH THE SPATCHULA ITS A GOD DAM SIN!
This meat market near my place sells theses ground up Bacon sharp cheddar cheese burgers in a coarse ground. They cost a little more than their regular bomb ass fresh as hell beefy tasting ground beef but they are well worth it, put some sharp smoked cheddar cheese on there with fried onions and voila!
I always grill my hamburger buns. Tonight I ate Bear Burgers! and they were delicious.
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Just some stuffed burger pics.
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Well, it's been almost 19 years, and I'm still making burgers. 

I tend to prefer grain fed traditional beef, probably because that's what I was raised on, but anytime I drive by those densely packed all dirt full stink feed lots on I-5 it makes me feel pretty bad for the cows. The improved ratios of the omega fatty acids in grass fed beef in addition to the ecological benefits of more responsible farming drive me to buy grass fed whenever it's available and not redonkulously priced. These days it's pretty easy to come by around my parts, but I still crave more juiciness that it often doesn't deliver.
Case in point, the grass fed beef I got for this burger was 95% lean, so I cut in a fat slice of cured hickory smoked sous vide pork belly (Kirkland siggy style) and grated half an onion in to juicen it up!... add in a handful of secret hobo spices of course. Pro tip: If you aren't using a proper meat grinder, heavily chill or freeze your belly so you can have an easier time mincing it up.

Don't forget to toasty them buns (buttery brioche in this case), and pay mind to your burger architecture! Now I don't really mind if a burger gets messy, that's just the way the world spins sometimes, but when it comes together and holds together, that's pretty neat and I always make an effort to lean toward that end.

PS. Looks like GabbaDj needs to get back to burgerin', as his stuffed burg porn is totes missin'.
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Yummmm...
I get the preference for grain-finished, steaks definitely take the cake in that department, but I've found a lot of fully grassfed ground locally that you really can't tell much difference, and I vastly prefer full grassfed not so much for added nutrients but for the lack of linoleic-acid and other crap that gets in the fat when you feed shit grains to cows.
Pro tip: get ahold of some beef tallow and cook the burgers in that instead of shit veg oil. I now cook EVERYTHING in beef tallow and it is the bomb. Plus, walmart.com sells it organic and grassfed for like $40 for this huge container. Top off your cooked burger with a pat of butter and you'll never know it wasn't grain-fed!
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Forrester said: Yummmm...
I get the preference for grain-finished, steaks definitely take the cake in that department, but I've found a lot of fully grassfed ground locally that you really can't tell much difference, and I vastly prefer full grassfed not so much for added nutrients but for the lack of linoleic-acid and other crap that gets in the fat when you feed shit grains to cows.
Pro tip: get ahold of some beef tallow and cook the burgers in that instead of shit veg oil. I now cook EVERYTHING in beef tallow and it is the bomb. Plus, walmart.com sells it organic and grassfed for like $40 for this huge container. Top off your cooked burger with a pat of butter and you'll never know it wasn't grain-fed!
(Haha 19yr old thread and you come back to it, I love it!)
Grass fed beef is nothing more than a marketing strategy to sell sub-standard meat that doesn't make the cut. ALOT of it would never be sold in any grocery store that uses the minimum standard of "select".
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No, grass is just what cows naturally eat and what their digestive systems are made to digest. Feeding them unnatural, unhealthy, usually gmo and pesticide ridden grain results in that crap going into the fat in the meat you eat. Say what you want about the grading or whatever, that has nothing to do with why loads of people eat and seek out exclusively grass-fed beef.
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