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Corporal Kielbasa
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Re: Zed's cacti pictures [Re: LSoares]
#20830387 - 11/13/14 04:37 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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The last 2 seem pretty peruvianus to me. Nice color I'm not even really sure what T. cuzcoensis is. All the ones I have are crosses besides a pc. So they don't make for good reference. 28 or -2 celsius coming up soon. Most of the stuff is in but the trichos are still out. Time to make some room.
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LSoares
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Sub 50F (10C) minima expected next week. Brrrr!
(gotta love Portugal, even if our politicians suck, our economy is all fucked up, unemployment is sky high and the prospects for the next couple of years are bleak at the most...)
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Re: Zed's cacti pictures [Re: LSoares]
#20830647 - 11/13/14 06:47 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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LSoares said:
The next two is anybody's guess. T. peruvianus? T. cuzcoensis? More T. pachanoi?
Thank you for your input.
Look like t. peruvianus/pachanoi/etc cacti.. Similar to trichs can be obtained around EU, sold as pachanoi/peruvianus/macrogonus etc, plants grow very similar to each other. However, I tend to think peruvianus is just one variety of pachanoi plants so far what I have seen these trichs around Europe.
Anyway, they might be from same seed patch or so. Do these grow spines in to "dark" color at tip or at the base of spike btw?
I have disturbingly similar plants sold under different strain name. Don't know why but t. pachanoi plants rarely grows so small spines, some do hae very short spines, some doesn't. Some may have very small spines from seedling to cactus.
Some Peruvian Torch appearances can be seen from both cactus, as well as those "spiny t. pachanoi"
Would be nice to know what they really are, very similar to few trichs of mine. Nice columns!
What I know about these, I would say first is t. peruvianus and second is t. pachanoi of some sort. ..based to my own experience about these looking trichs around EU. I would say these can be even from same patch of seeds and therefore very plausible they are same species both. (even I think both species is just same, different variety only, but that's my guess about those beautiful plants of yours)
I would guess these two are from Peru or near by area. So far "Peruvian San Pedro" plants have been very similar from various nurseries around web in EU.
What label you have had for them, or none?
Edited by intelligentlife (11/13/14 06:57 AM)
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LSoares
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I was given these plants a few years ago with the indication that they were T. bridgesii or maybe T. pachanoi, I can't be sure. T. bridgesii they're not, I believe, but otherwise they can be just about anything, including hybrids.
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Re: Zed's cacti pictures [Re: LSoares]
#20830718 - 11/13/14 07:12 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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LSoares said: I was given these plants a few years ago with the indication that they were T. bridgesii or maybe T. pachanoi, I can't be sure. T. bridgesii they're not, I believe, but otherwise they can be just about anything, including hybrids.
I have heard also some talk t. bridgesii about plant what seems to be t. pachanoi with spikes. I have actually pachanoi(not like yours) but it's said it's bridgesii but obviously it isn't. It just have small spines all over etc.
So far I see these two plants is just same species. One cactus vendor told me these trichs, they are all hybridized (wild or human made) so these isn't easiest thing to say for sure. When I bought these plants, I was made aware of these trichocereus plants are hybridized (or mother of seeds is "wild hybrid")
At least one person who have nursery said this kind of information about trichocerei in European union.
So far "pure pachanoi" and "pure bridgesii" have only plants I have been able to ID for sure. Peruvianus (and all sold as peruvianus) is kind of a tricky one. Seems everyone have own opinion what is should look like. I would say "peruvianus" is all what pachanoi and bridgesii isn't
Edited by intelligentlife (11/13/14 07:18 AM)
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Re: Zed's cacti pictures [Re: LSoares]
#20833482 - 11/13/14 06:46 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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T. pachanoi
T. peruvianus - Looks similar to ICAROS DNA seed grown plants.
Probably another T. peruvianus - Should be able to confirm as it matures, it's still a youngin'
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Re: Zed's cacti pictures [Re: karode13]
#20833492 - 11/13/14 06:47 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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The blueing and the spines on that second one are pretty sweet, whatever it is.
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LSoares
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Re: Zed's cacti pictures [Re: MrGiraffe]
#20834926 - 11/14/14 02:05 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you, guys.
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LSoares
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Re: Zed's cacti pictures [Re: LSoares]
#20910880 - 12/01/14 02:38 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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The problem with young Ariocarpus kotschoubeyanus is that you rarely can't show both plant and flower simultaneously:
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Corporal Kielbasa
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Re: Zed's cacti pictures [Re: LSoares]
#20910992 - 12/01/14 04:45 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Zed's cacti pictures [Re: LSoares]
#20912527 - 12/01/14 01:50 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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LSoares said: The problem with young Ariocarpus kotschoubeyanus is that you rarely can't show both plant and flower simultaneously:
Not even a side shot? But yeah its true. The flowers are so grand on such a small plant. I don't know what I love more, the flower or the plant.
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LSoares
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ferrel_human said: Not even a side shot? But yeah its true. The flowers are so grand on such a small plant. I don't know what I love more, the flower or the plant.
Wouldn't matter, the plant is growing flush with the soil, below the pebbles, and the flower spread across the top dressing and hid it completely. I'll take a pic when the flower wilts so you can see the plant.
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karode13
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Re: Zed's cacti pictures [Re: LSoares]
#20914635 - 12/01/14 09:05 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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They actually leave their pots and go on drunken benders. The flower's just a diversion to keep you busy so you don't notice.
They're great plants.
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LSoares
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Re: Zed's cacti pictures [Re: karode13]
#20915531 - 12/02/14 03:00 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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ferrel_human
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Re: Zed's cacti pictures [Re: karode13]
#20919686 - 12/02/14 08:53 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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karode13 said: They actually leave their pots and go on drunken benders. The flower's just a diversion to keep you busy so you don't notice.
They're great plants.
I have a cartoon idea about a peyote that jumps out and does stuff. Looks like now he will go drinking with me now.
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LSoares
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2015 kicks off with a Turbinicarpus (as usual), namely Turbinicarpus dickisoniae RS321A. Not one for the neat plant lover, but I find those wild spines irresistible.
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Re: Zed's cacti pictures [Re: LSoares]
#21070232 - 01/05/15 09:01 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like those crazy spines too.
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Awesome collection man.
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LSoares
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Re: Zed's cacti pictures [Re: voodoo42] 1
#21189785 - 01/28/15 02:10 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I never get tired of this one, Glandulicactus megarhizus KMR37A.
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Re: Zed's cacti pictures [Re: LSoares]
#21192241 - 01/28/15 03:45 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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LSoares said: I never get tired of this one, Glandulicactus megarhizus KMR37A.
Those spines remind me of Mammillaria bonbycina. Very nice cactus. Zed.
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