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Re: Psychotria growers unite! [Re: mandrin13]
#24275016 - 04/27/17 04:38 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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New psychotria grower here, got a couple nice Viridis plants and a little group of albas, as well as some elata seeds germinating.
The Chacrunas:

The Albas:

Group pic:

Thought I'd chime in with the growing infos the seller gave me, some valuable stuff:
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Psychotria viridis will be doing very well under artifical light. Most important is soil. Young seedlings can be grown in composted soil , but only for short time. Psychotria viridis naturaly occure in sandy , loamy soil rich with iron . Use 50% of sand mixed with 30% of loam and 20% of perlite . Use reddish or yellowish clay . Grey clay is poor with iron whih is very important for the plant . Iron works as regulator of acidicy of soil and helps absorb nutrients . Be carefull with watering. P.viridis doesnt like soggy condition . It loves to be sprayed with water . It will be grow best in high humidity level . If you have any questions , please contact me. Kind regards
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Re: Psychotria growers unite! [Re: MeanGreen]
#24275046 - 04/27/17 05:17 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've been wanting to grow some Viridis but all the reputable vendors that carried it have either seemingly gone out of business or their product is perpetually out of stock. And apparently false advertising is rampant from what I've read that I don’t want to end up with an Albas from one of the unverified vendors.
I've been waiting for a "certain vendor" to came back out of hiatus, but I'm starting to think its not gonna happen.
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Re: Psychotria growers unite! [Re: DGB]
#24275052 - 04/27/17 05:36 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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They are some nice looking plants man! How long you had them?
Good info too.
I have P.nexus... anyone know much about this variant?
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Re: Psychotria growers unite! [Re: Cactiphile] 1
#24275057 - 04/27/17 05:41 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've had them for about 3 hours lol, just received them in the mail.
Psychotria Nexus is a hybrid between Viridis & Alba (=Carthagenensis) that was bred by an australian company called herbalistics. I guess it was named this way in honor of the DMT Nexus forums 
Here's what they say on their website about P. Nexus:
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Psychotria cv. Nexus is an interspecific hybrid of Psychotria carthagenensis and Psychotria viridis bred by Darren at Herbalistics. Psychotria carthagenensis is the pistillate parent and Psychotria viridis is the staminate parent.
Psychotria viridis and P. carthagenensis are used in the traditional psychoactive medicine Ayahuasca; a brew of Banisteriopsis caapi (occasionally alone but most often with Psychotria viridis) ss the base and other plants are sometimes added, depending on the problems and conditions of the patient that need to be examined.
Nexus has a fast growth habit, large leaves and makes a welcome addition to any garden. Nexus is self-sterile (as per our observations so far) and will not produce fruit and viable seed under normal self-pollination. Back-crossing to Psychotria viridis and Psychotria virids ‘UDV’ has produced a small number of fruit and a few seedlings we are now developing. Distyly is recognised in many Psychotria spp. and this may result in limited self-compatibility and the need to out cross with another individual of the same type.
Psychotria viridis contains dimethyltryptamine (DMT), a psychoactive substance found across the plant kingdom in many family, genera and thousands of species (large numbers of Australian Acacia species and other natives contain DMT), often only as trace amounts. An anonymous report on the internet found that Nexus had a concentration of 0.77% DMT whilst P. viridis had a concentration of 1.1% DMT. Nexus would therefore be 70% strength of P. viridis. Nexus is therefore a very worthy ayahuasca additive
Care and Cultivation of Nexus
Nexus achieves a good growth rate when compared to Psychotria viridis and is as fast or faster than Psychotria carthagenensis. Psychotria cv. Nexus prefers a part shade, moist, well-drained position in the garden and a rich loam soil with adequate fertiliser. Nexus has performed well in our subtropical climatic extremes experienced here in SE QLD, ranging from low to high humidity, temperatures from 0-43°C over the year. It will have minimal frost tolerance and is about as drought tolerant as the parents, please share your cultivation experiences with us by posting a review
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Re: Psychotria growers unite! [Re: MeanGreen]
#24281277 - 04/29/17 11:52 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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 So I placed some in water, and some in soil, to see which ones did better, the ones placed in the potting soil have much larger roots.
So i took all the ones that where in water, and planted them sideways. as people had suggested doing earlier in this thread

I'm so excited, I've never grown a leaf into a plant before..... well I've done it with succulents, but it's still pretty cool
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Re: Psychotria growers unite! [Re: Johnny Dont]
#24281319 - 04/29/17 12:05 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Awesome!  Please keep us posted, I'll be doing the same thing pretty soon and I'm very interested in seeing what gives you the best results.
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Re: Psychotria growers unite! [Re: MeanGreen]
#24312447 - 05/11/17 04:58 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just a little update, so after having planting some my leaves side ways, I pulled some of them up to see how roots had sprouted, or if any had. At this point, all of the leaves have sprouted roots, from the bottom of the leaf. no roots have sprouted from other parts of the leaves, well at least not yet.
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Re: Psychotria growers unite! [Re: Johnny Dont]
#24312847 - 05/11/17 08:01 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hell yeah. Grow a surplus so I can give it another try
When do you think you will take them out of the bags, that was one of my problems.
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Re: Psychotria growers unite! [Re: mandrin13]
#24312895 - 05/11/17 08:24 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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I haven't thought of that yet. All of my leaves have sprouted roots, and some of them impressively. But no new growth above ground yet.
I would like to hear what others have to say
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Re: Psychotria growers unite! [Re: Johnny Dont]
#24313018 - 05/11/17 09:19 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Johnny Dont said: I haven't thought of that yet. All of my leaves have sprouted roots, and some of them impressively. But no new growth above ground yet.
I would like to hear what others have to say
To clarify, I am sure I took mine out too early, and not gradually enough. I don't mean to imply you should soon, but I think you got it. Keep us updated!
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Re: Psychotria growers unite! [Re: mandrin13]
#24313086 - 05/11/17 09:52 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think it's crucial to allow them to adapt to your environment...
I didn't have my cuttings in bags or anything until it started to get to cold outside... Just gave them a good mist everyday to keep them hydrated.
And the same as anything, if you did use a humidity dome or something then you need to slowly transition them out. Like an hour a day at first then slowly increase the time they have in the fresh air over a matter of weeks.
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Re: Psychotria growers unite! [Re: Johnny Dont] 2
#24374136 - 06/03/17 04:02 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Johnny Dont said:


Well these guys came in the mail
2months 9days later, my very first sprouts
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Re: Psychotria growers unite! [Re: Johnny Dont]
#24374934 - 06/03/17 09:09 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes!
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Re: Psychotria growers unite! [Re: mandrin13]
#24377296 - 06/04/17 05:16 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Seeing this thread inspired me to buy a handful of seeds. Any tips on germinating would be most appreciated.
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Re: Psychotria growers unite! [Re: Dark lotus]
#24378376 - 06/05/17 01:43 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Light, aerated soil. Heat mat, light.
Lots of patience.
I have tried twice and failed twice.
Best trying to get your hands on some leaves to propagate.
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Re: Psychotria growers unite! [Re: Cactiphile] 1
#24378557 - 06/05/17 05:33 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not viridis, but I've got some P. Elata that germinated a couple days ago. Pretty happy as this is my 3rd attempt (same seeds though) and the first couple failed miserably. It was pretty quick too, about 7-10 days.

For viridis I'd also advise you to get a leaf cutting or even better an actual cutting since judging from Johnny Dont's post, rooting leaves seems to take a long time.
Btw, can you use half a leaf or even less for propagation? My understanding is that every "node" of veins on the leaf can sprout a plantlet but do the roots need to come from the petiole?
My chakruna plants are still pretty small and I don't feel like depriving them of a whole leaf but I'd love to start propagating especially if it takes a couple months to get something going.
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Re: Psychotria growers unite! [Re: MeanGreen]
#24378933 - 06/05/17 08:49 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Found some P. Viridis seeds recently, a bit old... possibly too old if they need to be fresh :\
Anyway, am trying to germinate them in some moist perlite... who knows!
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Re: Psychotria growers unite! [Re: MeanGreen]
#24380263 - 06/05/17 05:30 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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MeanGreen said: Not viridis, but I've got some P. Elata that germinated a couple days ago. Pretty happy as this is my 3rd attempt (same seeds though) and the first couple failed miserably. It was pretty quick too, about 7-10 days.

For viridis I'd also advise you to get a leaf cutting or even better an actual cutting since judging from Johnny Dont's post, rooting leaves seems to take a long time.
Btw, can you use half a leaf or even less for propagation? My understanding is that every "node" of veins on the leaf can sprout a plantlet but do the roots need to come from the petiole?
My chakruna plants are still pretty small and I don't feel like depriving them of a whole leaf but I'd love to start propagating especially if it takes a couple months to get something going.
Congrats! Mad looking seedlings! Can we hear some more about your technique?
As for rooting leaves, it does take a bit of time but it's faster to an established plant then seed. And I believe that you can brake the leaf multiple times and every split will produce roots so no need for a petiole
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Re: Psychotria growers unite! [Re: MeanGreen] 1
#24381242 - 06/06/17 12:01 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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MeanGreen said:
Btw, can you use half a leaf or even less for propagation? My understanding is that every "node" of veins on the leaf can sprout a plantlet but do the roots need to come from the petiole?
I get roots all over both sides of the leaf when I root them. I try to break each leaf at least a dozen times. Each break creates a new place for growth, roots and a plantlet.
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Re: Psychotria growers unite! [Re: give.more] 1
#24382670 - 06/06/17 02:37 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Very nice, thanks a lot for the tips guys. I'll try breaking off a piece of a leaf on my viridis plant tomorrow and getting it it to root.
For the elata seeds I just planted them straight to soil, covered them lightly and kept them on a heatmat inside under an led light. Kept the humidity at about 75% and they sprouted in about a week, there's actually 3 more popping in the same pot right now.
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