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How to be a successful Noob * 5
    #19657605 - 03/05/14 11:16 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I am fairly new myself and don't have all the answers, but I would like to share some of the things I have experienced, seen, read or whatever else, for the benefit of other newbies.  It is hard to contribute something of value in contexts outside of newbie related topics, so here's my two cents .... I hope it's helpful to someone.


1.) READ A LOT and USE the SEARCH FUNCTION A LOT

Have a problem??  Don't know what an LC is?  Don't know where to get hpoo? 

Search and Read

Countless times I thought I had some novel problem or something that someone else may not have considered yet ..... This line of thinking is a mistake .... don't make a post about it .... all epiphanies and revelations have been made (and posted about) by other newbies somewhere along the way, the answers are out there .... or rather, they are right here

Even the basic search bar on the top right of every Shroomery page does a good job.

I'm not saying don't post anything, just try to be as informed on the subject as possible first. In other words, Read :wink:


2.)  Consider the dates and posters of the things you are reading.

If someone that is unrated or very new is giving you advice about cultivation (like me), you may want to consult another opinion before taking their word.  If someone like, say RogerRabbit, is giving you advice then it's probably pretty sound.  Also, when searching you will come across very old threads.  For example, if you are reading about a "new" tek or something that is a point of debate, and it was posted in 1999, remember that cultivation is a living growing body of knowledge.  Doesn't mean the information is wrong or necessarily outdated, just that you should probably read up a bit more on the topic before depositing it in your memory bank as "the way to do it".  And anyways, you will find out that there isn't only one way to do it.  Which leads me to the next one .......


3.) Pick a tek and follow it to a T. 

You are new and don't know exactly why everything is done the way it is.  Just accept that and don't improvise too much.  As a noob you are like Darkness within Darkness: You don't even know how much you don't know.  As you read further, you will begin to realize how much you don't know.  In the meantime, follow a tek.  It sounds simple enough, but you will get the urge to change it up, save yourself the trouble and don't.

A prime example of this is the (SGFC) Shotgun Fruiting Chamber .... I have seen so many posts of people "changing the design" or taking the idea (whose reason they don't yet understand) and making "their own fruiting chamber" .... then they don't get results because they lack FAE (Fresh Air Exchange) or RH is too low etc., etc., etc.

The reason it is important to read so much is because you will develop a deeper understanding of cultivation, etc. in general, and this will lead you to pioneering your own style because you understand the basics of what you are doing and why.  This comes especially from experience, but reading can essentially be a shortcut around many pitfalls and it will augment the experience of cultivation.


4.) Be patient

I am a very patient person and my first grow was difficult in the realm of patience .... It only takes minutes to read the steps in any given tek, but it takes weeks/months to actually do it.  This goes back to "follow a tek to the T" because there is so much time to think of all kinds of bad ideas to move the process along faster, or "improve it".  Just be patient.

After you birth your cakes and you can't believe they aren't fruiting yet the next day, search and read about hyphal knots, pin formation and anything else that you've heard about and don't understand.

This hobby will help you cultivate mushrooms and patience.





I suppose I could have just posted the titles, but I thought maybe giving a little reasoning with them might help.

So in short:

READ, SEARCH, FOLLOW A TEK (to the T), READ, BE PATIENT, READ and SEARCH more, then enjoy the fruits of your labor. 

:mushroom2:Happy Cultivation :mushroom2:


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Re: How to be a successful Noob [Re: Mindz Eye]
    #19666924 - 03/08/14 09:55 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Dang. It's fucking complicated being a noob these days, eh?

Back yonders I just signed on with a couple clicks and started or joined discussions about any topic I wanted. It was, and is, pretty quick, which is why I like this forum. That is, this place offers the poster quick responses from a wide variety of people on a wide variety of topics.

It is a very useful resource.

I just hope that vets keep posting throughout the years. Don't forget this place. The post.


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Re: How to be a successful Noob [Re: XUL] * 1
    #19712985 - 03/18/14 12:24 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)


My official how to be a successful noob rule
dont forget to have fun.

i had some fun times being a noob :monkeydance:

Edited by bw86 (03/28/14 08:10 AM)

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Re: How to be a successful Noob [Re: bw86]
    #20529816 - 09/06/14 06:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

good stuff, thanks for the heads up

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Re: How to be a successful Noob [Re: GlitchInSpace]
    #20602381 - 09/22/14 05:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you for the advice.  I really hope to be the best noob I can be :smile:


one question though:  is there an index of terms and abbreviations somewhere?


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Re: How to be a successful Noob [Re: FriedEgg]
    #20606004 - 09/23/14 12:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

FriedEgg said:
Thank you for the advice.  I really hope to be the best noob I can be :smile:


one question though:  is there an index of terms and abbreviations somewhere?





yes but im not sure where i read it online while searching google.

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Re: How to be a successful Noob [Re: FriedEgg]
    #20606069 - 09/23/14 01:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

FriedEgg said:
Thank you for the advice.  I really hope to be the best noob I can be :smile:


one question though:  is there an index of terms and abbreviations somewhere?





You should be able to catch on.

tl;dr = too long; didn't read.


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Re: How to be a successful Noob [Re: XUL]
    #20615220 - 09/25/14 03:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Anyone know any effective and easy monotub and bulk bag spawn tech for a noob?

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Re: How to be a successful Noob [Re: Cosmic_Phallus]
    #20622734 - 09/26/14 06:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

good advice if only id learned to check dates on posts long ago...

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Re: How to be a successful Noob [Re: hamburgerhill]
    #20624281 - 09/27/14 02:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I've also had similar questions such as obtaining horsepoop, as it seems to yield alot in growing methods mixed with other stuff.

My thoughts where asking people that have ranches and horses near by, but it might be awkward.
I am sure they may think its weird but will give it out after asking why. I am going to try in a few months after trying smaller methods first. I still haven't thought of what to say I need it for, but either way I am sure they throw it away anyways. I've seen online and on tv some people use it to create some sort of gas energy, but I doubt around me people do that.

As for finding old threads, it happens to me to so I just read general knowledge and also google for other threads. Such as type the question and shroomery after it, I always seem to find a year or 2 threads of people asking what I was going to.

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Re: How to be a successful Noob [Re: 562]
    #20630153 - 09/28/14 10:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah it isnt easy to be a noob. if there a language problem it doubles.
its my first post here and i am looking for casing materials. found the thrads but it isnt easy to obtain the right stuff out of those mega threads.
now i am totally confused so may anyone gan give me an advice for a horse poo/straw/perlite mix for monotub.

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Re: How to be a successful Noob [Re: ulla]
    #20669350 - 10/06/14 11:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well hopefully I won't be shoved into lockers lol. :grin:


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Re: How to be a successful Noob [Re: PNW_Vibes]
    #20678519 - 10/09/14 07:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yo guys, just made my account. I can't figure out why I can't post my own thread so I figured yours was the best option to reply to. Cheers! So I've been reading on here tons just like OP said before I even read this post. I had about 3 months of reading here and there under my belt before I ordered my first (and only) spore syringe. That was two months ago. After having the syringe for a couple more weeks of reading making damn sure I wasn't going to waste anything I finally decided to give it a go! PF Tek just like how i'm supposed to the first time, I wanted to go bulk right away because I have the money and ... pvc experience? But i'm doing this by the book(or hopefully, which is why im posting).

So I gathered my materials:
  • The Spores which I already had.
  • Organic Brown Rice Flour
  • Vermiculite
  • 1 Dozen 1/2 Pint Tapered Wide-Mouth Mason Canning Jars
  • Foil
  • A Brand New Pressure Cooker
  • 91% Rubbing Alcohol cause I don't fuck around.
  • Already had a 66Qt Sterlite Tote with lid
  • Already had a Drill and 1/4" Drill bit
  • Perlite
  • Also bought a 1200cc (tiny) Air Pump/ hose/ Bubble stone.
  • A 30 Min Interval timer, with 24 increments. (Two 30 minute on/off switches per hour) 


I think that's it. I'm going to tell you every single thing I did and you're going to tell me every single thing I did wrong, please!

I Inoculated on September 1st. Today is October 9th to give you perspective. It's been 5 weeks.

Drilled My lid holes, I only did 2 per can. I know i'm already fucking shit up, its supposed to be 4. I read people use different amounts of holes with success, it just effects colonization time. (Which it did) I also read each time you remove and insert the needle into your jar there is another chance of contamination. So I went with 2.

Next was the substrate. To get a good understanding of how many jars worth of substrate I was going to need, I placed as many as I could in my new PC. 8 jars fit if I stacked them; 4 on bottom, 4 on top. The top of the jars sat above the do not fill past line but that's for liquids and has to do with pressure that the empty space around the jars would negate. So I planned to need 8 Cups (1/2 pint = 1 Cup) of substrate. I'm pretty sure the PF Tek is 2/3cup Verm + 1/4cup BRF + 1/4cup Water. This was 5 weeks ago so I may be off a tad.

After some calculations and mixing it up I filled all 8 jars. Used an towelette soaked with Alcohol to rub the rim around the jar clean. Topped off each jar with dry Verm. Screwed on my lid just tight enough for FAE(not sure why we do this since there are holes). Covered them all in 2 layers of foil as tight as I could get it to wrap around the jars (I was worried about steam from the PC throwing off the humidity inside the jar). I put a towel on the bottom and filled the PC until the water touched the top of the towel. I placed aluminum foil on top of the towel and put my jars on top of that. PC'd for about 70 minutes. They sat sterilized in that PC for another 30 hours I think before I got back to it.

Inoculating time! I didn't want to pussyfoot around with making some glove box and spray bleach around on everything after I read you can just inoculate in front of an oven, so that's what I did. I preheated my oven on its lowest setting. I grabbed a chair and a little box to put my materials on. New sponge soaked in alcohol, spore syringe all shaken up to separate the spores equally, lighter, and my 8 jars. Knowing this was the most vulnerable time for contamination I practiced out exactly what I was going to do a few times before doing it. This is how it went down: Step 1 was to open my oven and place an oven mitt on the now shelf-like oven door. Step 2 was to open the PC for the first time since cooking, in front of the oven and remove each jar to the oven mitt. Step 3 was to remove the needle from its case, stick it into its alcoholic sponge, remove it and burn the needle with the lighter for a couple seconds. Step 4 was to open each jar individually (removing the foil not the lid) and inject 1 hole before re-sticking the sponge & burning the needle for the other hole. Then I put the foil back. Repeated this until each jar was inoculated.

Put the 8 jars into a cabinet at my normal house temperature, 78 Degrees. I like it a little warm apparently. After a week I saw little circles on almost all the jars, but only on one side. A week later it was apparent that I should've done 4 holes, because 5/8 jars were producing myc but only on one side! I think a couple days later I noticed that one of the 3 jars that had no signs started showing a little myc circle. Around the same time one of the previous well established myc jars had a little myc start on the opposite side. At first the myc appeared fuzzy and it scared my at first thinking oh no ive ruined them all somehow with white contams. But I've read a few posts on here about Golden Teacher myc starting off fuzzy and then going ropey which is exactly what each of mine did, and what I ordered, YES!

2/8 jars never showed any signs of myc growth after 5 weeks, i still have them hoping for a miricle or something.

As for the other 6: The most prominent one (the only one that had growth on both sides) was fully colonized on the 25th of September. I read about consolidation week and decided i'd birth it on the 1st of October. 4/5 others were about 5-6 days behind the first to full colonization and eventually decided that the first one would wait to birth with the others so he had an extra consolidation week. The 6th jar that showed myc a couple weeks after the others is about a week or so slower than the others.

Yesterday, October 8th at 3pm I dunked the 5 cakes that had been waiting and placed them into my fridge with a plate over top so they stay submerged. The 6th cakes is just starting its consolidation week.

Today I am rolling them and placing them into my SGFC which I also set up yesterday after dunking the cakes. Allow me to explain what I did for that:

So I drilled a bunch of 1/4" holes every 2 inches on all 6 sides of my 66 qt sterlite tote. I rinsed enough perlite off with my tap to fill it to 5 inches. Tek says 4+! I'm using the bottom of 2L coke bottles with holes drilled into them as a stand to keep the cakes off the perlite. Is this a bad idea? I'm also using the tiny air pump/ Bubble stone in the corner to help RH. I don't have a hygrometer so i'm just winging it. The SGFC is in the middle of an empty room supported as best i could on two seperate totes so that the bottom is open for FAE too. Do you think a fan on a timer somewhere in the room would be enough for FAE? If so, how often?

I want to go fully automated bulk but i'm doing it this way first because you all say so. I'll still spray and fan it out if I need to but the idea is to do it less often.

Also, with the last cake I read its way easier to do G2G transfers but I only have a BRF cake and PF Tek Supplies. How can I most efficiently transfer a brf cake to brf substrate jars? So far i've read that I should birth it, put it in a ziplock bag and rip it apart into like 10 pieces, in my case 8. Then you stick a piece into a sterilized substrate jar, cover with dry very and wait. Is this correct?

Can't wait for replies!
C2C

Edited by Cody2C (10/09/14 07:49 AM)

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Re: How to be a successful Noob [Re: bw86]
    #20682048 - 10/09/14 09:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

bw86 said:

My official how to be a successful noob rule
dont forget to have fun.

i had some fun times being a noob :monkeydance:



This....

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Re: How to be a successful Noob [Re: Spent]
    #20683188 - 10/10/14 08:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I haven't tried any hallucinogens or anything other than stimulants and I would love to get some tips or something on how to find/get shrooms somewhere that they are extremely hard to find.

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Re: How to be a successful Noob [Re: Cody2C]
    #20705305 - 10/15/14 08:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Wow, quite the write-up! :takingnotes:

What's the timer for? I guess I missed that part.

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Re: How to be a successful Noob [Re: Boofer]
    #20705313 - 10/15/14 08:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hey guys first attempt at this ever wondering if some of these are ready to harvest and if there are any fairly simple drying methods. http:/

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Re: How to be a successful Noob [Re: Mrcrew]
    #20706863 - 10/15/14 03:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I found a big bloom of A. Muscaria in indianapolis. It is at WASHINGTON PARK CEMETARY NORTH. Located behind the garden of serenity and little serenity areeas under a large stand of pine trees.  I am a botanist. I dont do mushrooms but want to be of service.  I saw at least a hundred crowns. They have flattened out and are obscured by pine needles. Still worth a trip to any psychedelic ranger.  Warm weather spike might yield more!

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Re: How to be a successful Noob [Re: Diggerdoc]
    #20709927 - 10/16/14 09:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have so far been an unsuccessful noob..started off with a spore print, made a syringe and inoculated about three weeks ago. No  myc growth whatsoever so I think next time I'm going to order a syringe, spawn bag and go bulk right off the bat.

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Re: How to be a successful Noob [Re: Morionhyanda]
    #20710426 - 10/16/14 11:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hey im new here and i need help . I found some mushrooms i believe are psilocybe, possibly stuntzii . But i live in alabama and im concerned they might be Galerina. Please help

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