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MagicMike407
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: PNWmushroomexpert]
#19639420 - 03/02/14 12:57 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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PNWmushroomexpert said: Iam starting to really believe thats true Magic Mike407. I guess the mad scientist in me wants to do crazy off the wall shit tho.
And you should, if you desire to. As long as you know what youre doing is for fun, and not to really solve a problem or improve a design already beloved by the community.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: PNWmushroomexpert]
#19639422 - 03/02/14 12:57 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Potency loss is negligable IME. However after 3 flushes a 66 quart mono should have yielded close to a pound. Many people just don't see the point in taking up real estate to get another oz outta it
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MudaFuka
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19639442 - 03/02/14 01:00 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: People have tried the globe with water before. Its not so much that it doesn't work as its just not really needed. The whole point behind a bulk sub is how much water it brings to the table. No need to add more. Most of the time I don't even need to dunk a bulk sub until after the third flush.
I was just wondering. Do you dunk your grains before you spawn to bulk?
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PNWmushroomexpert
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: MudaFuka]
#19639457 - 03/02/14 01:03 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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If I do something as an experiment its always to improve a design.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: MudaFuka]
#19639488 - 03/02/14 01:08 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said:
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Pastywhyte said: People have tried the globe with water before. Its not so much that it doesn't work as its just not really needed. The whole point behind a bulk sub is how much water it brings to the table. No need to add more. Most of the time I don't even need to dunk a bulk sub until after the third flush.
I was just wondering. Do you dunk your grains before you spawn to bulk?
Sure do
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MagicMike407
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: PNWmushroomexpert]
#19639507 - 03/02/14 01:12 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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PNWmushroomexpert said: If I do something as an experiment its always to improve a design.
Well then i dont think you should do it as its not really an improvement to the basic mono. I dont mean to be rude let me just explain why i think: -The tubing network may disrupt colonization. Or it may not, im not sure- i would just feel weird inserting any foreign material into the heart of my sub. -A properly prepared sub has all the water it needs. If a dunk is needed but you cant or are lazy, why not a heavy misting? -individual opinion on when "enough is enough" when it comes to late flushes. I think you should go for it, its just I cant say its an improvement. Like so many have said what is there to improve? I havnt been doing this for long but i think i can safely say you wouldnt see "improvements". I respect the ambition.
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PNWmushroomexpert
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: MagicMike407]
#19639596 - 03/02/14 01:34 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks mm407. I guess we can leave it at that. Shrooms rock.
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Ambicerebral321
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) FLUSH 7 Harvest 3/1 [Re: elasticaltiger]
#19652239 - 03/04/14 08:53 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't know if I asked this already but I was wondering if the placement of the hole for the hose matters. Should it be high, midway, or low. I'm going to try my second monotub and your flushes look kickass so I think it is about to be experiment time.
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elasticaltiger
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) FLUSH 7 Harvest 3/1 [Re: Ambicerebral321]
#19652351 - 03/04/14 09:10 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ambicerebral321 said: I don't know if I asked this already but I was wondering if the placement of the hole for the hose matters. Should it be high, midway, or low. I'm going to try my second monotub and your flushes look kickass so I think it is about to be experiment time.
I placed the hoses as seen in the very clear diagram that I drew.
 The tubes go into the tub about an inch and they are almost at substrate level. Maybe 1 centimeter above the substrate but because of the way the tubing is shaped it kind of angles down pointing right at the sub.
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elasticaltiger
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: elasticaltiger]
#19653087 - 03/05/14 12:57 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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11:45 PM Pacific time. I have noticed a patch of green mold about the size of a dime on the substrate. This tub is officially finished. Thank you to everyone who posted here. It's been a long three month haul for this and I'm more than happy even though I didn't quite hit a pound dry. Thanks guys.
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: elasticaltiger]
#19653209 - 03/05/14 02:27 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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elasticaltiger said: 11:45 PM Pacific time. I have noticed a patch of green mold about the size of a dime on the substrate. This tub is officially finished. Thank you to everyone who posted here. It's been a long three month haul for this and I'm more than happy even though I didn't quite hit a pound dry. Thanks guys.
Ah that sucks, but like you said you got a ton out of it.
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victor947
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: rigadoog]
#19653577 - 03/05/14 07:49 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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i wonder if slightly increased pressure in the fruiting chamber would be beneficial.
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maddchef
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: victor947]
#19653645 - 03/05/14 08:23 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have speculated about the effects of positive and negative (partial vaccum) pressure would have on the cell structure. Unfortunately there doesn't exist a practical way to test this in a home environment.
Find some other zany idea to pursue.
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RogerRabbit
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: maddchef]
#19653714 - 03/05/14 08:44 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Unfortunately there doesn't exist a practical way to test this in a home environment.
Elevation changes if you live near mountains will give you a big pressure change. RR
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maddchef
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: RogerRabbit]
#19653788 - 03/05/14 09:07 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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True enough, I just meant running a vaccum and trying to maintain rh and fae with it. But if he wants to drive a tub or gh to the mile high city I hope he writes us all a paper on cellular expansion in fungi in lower pressure environments.
Or........just shows us some regular old fruits and tells us its from there. Roger, given enough generations at somewhere with lower pressure would we see different mutations or would they be minimal in our lifetime?
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Partyboi420
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: maddchef]
#19654453 - 03/05/14 12:28 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I just built a mono kinda like that but one air hose has an air stone at the end in a cup of water in the corner and the other air hose is hooked up through a cheap humidifier I bought from a supply store online will post pics if anyone is interested but I have a junk camera so they'll suck
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elasticaltiger
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: Partyboi420]
#19654519 - 03/05/14 12:42 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Partyboi420 said: I just built a mono kinda like that but one air hose has an air stone at the end in a cup of water in the corner and the other air hose is hooked up through a cheap humidifier I bought from a supply store online will post pics if anyone is interested but I have a junk camera so they'll suck
If it's a true bulk substrate then it will provide all the humidity you need. All you need to add is the air. If you notice the tub isn't holding humidity the way it should then you dial back the air.
The air stone in the water is completely unnecessary. No one really does that anymore. In fact I think It's actually going to keep the air from circulating the way it should. But yes post a thread so we can see the setup.
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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Partyboi420
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: elasticaltiger]
#19654593 - 03/05/14 01:02 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks for the info It's 22" by 13" and 4" deep of hpoo, coir, Verm, gypsum, spawned with fully colonized wbs and it's got a lot of condensation on the walls and lid the air pump is not on during colonization though and my poly holes are taped up gotta go take a quick vid my camera isn't charged
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Partyboi420
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: Partyboi420]
#19654607 - 03/05/14 01:06 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sorry about the quality I hope you can tell what your looking at
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: Partyboi420]
#19654618 - 03/05/14 01:07 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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i'm loking at nuthing but text
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