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 Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?"  [Re: Innvertigo]
#1963097 - 09/29/03 03:03 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I didnt defend mike or his book
what the hell are you talking about
and I am not a liberal, and using these terms all the fucking time does nothng to advance society
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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
#1963225 - 09/29/03 03:39 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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i was reffering to Leary, just joking, relax...
I would read his book, I just wouldn't buy it.
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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Innvertigo]
#1963657 - 09/29/03 06:17 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can picture Leary ravaging through a Moore
book right now just to shit on your parade....
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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: afoaf]
#1964295 - 09/29/03 09:59 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just posted this to see what people had to say about it.
I'm no expert on Michael Moore. I just like the guy and I think he's a good guy.
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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Learyfan]
#1965096 - 09/30/03 03:11 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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So Moore lies and misleads and you think he's cool.
Yet according to you Bush lies and misleads and he isn't.
Interesting.
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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Learyfan]
#1965129 - 09/30/03 03:47 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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OK... Now!
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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: afoaf]
#1965162 - 09/30/03 04:34 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
I can picture Leary ravaging through a Moore
book right now just to shit on your parade....
i doubt it.
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 Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: PsiloKitten]
#1965180 - 09/30/03 05:05 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Another Moore book, I cant wait for his shocking revelations....
On second thoughts, i'll stick to mein kampf....
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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: st0nedphucker]
#1965181 - 09/30/03 05:08 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah,Hitler and Moore,I can see the resemblance....NOT.
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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: monoamine]
#1965187 - 09/30/03 05:13 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Personally, I find them equally distasteful.
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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: st0nedphucker]
#1965209 - 09/30/03 05:32 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hitler-started WW2,responsible for the death of millions
Moore-pissed off gun nuts,makes movies that may be misleading to some people
Yep,they are equally evil. 
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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: monoamine]
#1965221 - 09/30/03 05:39 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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???
I was referring to their literary works....
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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: monoamine]
#1965248 - 09/30/03 05:59 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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With "Roger and Me" Michael Moore helped get Roger Smith to step down after moving most of GM's American manufacturing to Mexico.
He got K-MART to stop selling bullets in America.
Moore's "TV Nation" paved the way for comic news shows like America's "The Daily Show".
Oh yeah, the Cannes film festival had to invent an award for "Bowling for Collumbine" because they had never given an award to a documentary.
And, let's not forget his Oscar (as if one could forget THAT speech).
You may disagree with Moore's tactics but, he gets results.
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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Rose]
#1965254 - 09/30/03 06:05 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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With "Roger and Me" Michael Moore helped get Roger Smith to step down after moving most of GM's American manufacturing to Mexico.
wrong, most of the American manufacturing is in Michigan. and Moore had nothing to do with Roger smiths situation
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He got K-MART to stop selling bullets in America.
wow, the Kmart that is near my neighborhood still sells bullets..hmmpphh.
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Moore's "TV Nation" paved the way for comic news shows like America's "The Daily Show".
so what.
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Oh yeah, the Cannes film festival had to invent an award for "Bowling for Collumbine" because they had never given an award to a documentary.
bowling for columbine is not a documentary.
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And, let's not forget his Oscar (as if one could forget THAT speech).
i couldn't hear it through all the booing in the audience.
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You may disagree with Moore's tactics but, he gets results.
like what?
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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Innvertigo]
#1965265 - 09/30/03 06:20 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, I'm smart enough to know not to go head to head with a Michigander.
but...
* I: wrong, most of the American manufacturing is in Michigan. and Moore had nothing to do with Roger smiths situation
How's Flint doing?
Roger Smith stepped down within a year of "Roger and Me's" release. Coincidence?
*C: He got K-MART to stop selling bullets in America.
*I: wow, the Kmart that is near my neighborhood still sells bullets..hmmpphh.
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b3bd3b42fd7.htm
My bad, just handgun bullets. Handguns aren't used in hunting. Handguns were invented to kill people.
*C: Moore's "TV Nation" paved the way for comic news shows like America's "The Daily Show".
*I: so what.
Is that a question or a statement eminem? The Daily Show just won an Emmy.
*C: Oh yeah, the Cannes film festival had to invent an award for "Bowling for Collumbine" because they had never given an award to a documentary.
*I: bowling for columbine is not a documentary.
You're going to tell me it is fiction? That was a great script! How'd he get Chaz Heston to sign?
*C: And, let's not forget his Oscar (as if one could forget THAT speech).
*I: i couldn't hear it through all the booing in the audience.
Yeah, he won an Oscar last year... for best DOCUMENTARY. The people who were booing were the same that voted for Moore to win... Americans are weird. Booing a political activist for expressing his opinion... sigh...
*You may disagree with Moore's tactics but, he gets results.
*like what?
Just wait for his next film... about surly Michiganders... It'll change your life.
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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Rose]
#1965290 - 09/30/03 07:10 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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How's Flint doing?
Flint is a terrible city, the worst in Michigan actually. Don't get me wrong, i actually enjoyed Roger and Me, it's really bowling for columbine which was a disgrace.
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My bad, just handgun bullets. Handguns aren't used in hunting. Handguns were invented to kill people.
you can hunt with a hand gun, but it's harder. A .45 can take down some big game and be enjoyable for those that target shoot. The handgun to me is for self defense against those that would relieve me of my civil liberties.
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Is that a question or a statement eminem? The Daily Show just won an Emmy.
word.  ...i like john stewert, i just didn't thinmk it was relavent.
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You're going to tell me it is fiction? That was a great script! How'd he get Chaz Heston to sign?
many parts of that "movie" were spliced and were slanted so far that my neck hurt after watching it.
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Americans are weird. Booing a political activist for expressing his opinion...
they had different opinions and were expressing them. freedom of speech doesn't mean that those you are speaking to have to agree nor does it mean that they have to listen.
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Just wait for his next film... about surly Michiganders... It'll change your life.
i'm guessing it's going to be aboot some rich white guy.
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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Innvertigo]
#1965316 - 09/30/03 07:46 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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All of Moore's movies are edited out of sequence. They give the impression that things happen in a different order than they actually did. This pisses a lot of people off but his documentaries are politically motivated. Most documentaries report things as they happen. Like him or not, Moore uses a different format... an editorial documentary. Many people think a documentary should be more neutral than Moore's take on the genre.
He uses his material to make a point rather than to report the sequence of events. Over time, people have come to accept this form of documentary but Moore will eventually shoot himself in the foot if he keeps doing documentaries out of sequence.
Now, as for "The Daily Show," my original point was this: Without Moore's TV Nation, there would be no "Daily Show." "The Daily Show" borrows more from TV Nation than it borrows from SNL's "Weekend Update."
*i'm guessing it's (Moore's next movie) going to be aboot some rich white guy.
You may be more right than you think. I heard his next show is about George W. Bush.
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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Rose]
#1965351 - 09/30/03 08:09 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh yes, and as for handguns. Sure you can hunt with them. I have (either the gun sucked... or I did). They were designed for close quarters combat and haven't evolved much since they were conceived... well, they aren't very versitile. Sure, they've evolved. Granted, a handgun will teach you how to aim a larger gun.
You said yourself, your handgun is there to protect your from those who would relieve you of your civil liberties (fascists?). Sounds like you don't plan on using it for deer hunting anytime soon. Handguns ARE fun when used for target practice.
As human killers, handguns work too well. They are easy to obtain and hide in an urban environment.
Most people use handguns responsibly... yes. But handguns ARE the guns that kill people in citys. Who was the last person shot and killed with a rifle in NYC?
Most people aren't murdered with bolt action rifles (Kennedy was a fluke). They are killed with semi-automatic hand guns.
Eliminate hand guns, and you eliminate, at least, 50% of America's gun murders.
Handguns don't save as many lives in a year as they take (Have you ever seen this headline: "Man Saved By Handgun"?)... and people still use them for protection.
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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Rose]
#1965437 - 09/30/03 08:44 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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You said yourself, your handgun is there to protect your from those who would relieve you of your civil liberties (fascists?).
not facists, just those that would take from me which is mine. ie: life and possessions
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Sounds like you don't plan on using it for deer hunting anytime soon
Not while i have a compound bow or a rifle. I know you can kill people with it but that's up to the person who owns it. Many buy for target shooting competitions.
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As human killers, handguns work too well.
can you imagine how nice it would be if they just enforced those laws that are on the books? Moore would have more credibility if he took that route.
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Eliminate hand guns, and you eliminate, at least, 50% of America's gun murders.
eliminating handguns is a eutopian dream. If it could be possible to eliminate ALL guns then i'd believe it. Gun laws that restrict the rights of those responsible gun owners will not effect those criminals that would NEVER get rid of their guns because they are just that criminals.
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Handguns don't save as many lives in a year as they take (Have you ever seen this headline: "Man Saved By Handgun"?)...
scenerio: there are three houses to the left that a criminal knows there are no guns. Three houses on the right that the criminal knows there are guns. Which one will be robbed?
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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Innvertigo]
#1965452 - 09/30/03 08:48 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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*eliminating handguns is a eutopian dream. If it could be possible to eliminate ALL guns then i'd believe it. Gun laws that restrict the rights of those responsible gun owners will not effect those criminals that would NEVER get rid of their guns because they are just that criminals.
The problem is with unregistered handguns, and yes, those would be tough (impossible) to eliminate.
*scenerio: there are three houses to the left that a criminal knows there are no guns. Three houses on the right that the criminal knows there are guns. Which one will be robbed?
If you don't have a handgun, don't talk to criminals.
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