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Bodybuilder supplement as mushroom growing supplement?
    #1963648 - 09/29/03 08:14 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Many people are looking for ideal substrates with high nutritional value for shrooms to grow on so they can be potent.I was wondering: Has anyone tried adding protein supplements used by bodybuilders to their substate mixtures? It could enrich a BRF cake ,straw ,grain or dunk substrates.Caution:One might have to adjust Ph after addition,also have a look atthe ingredients before buying the first supplement you find.Somehow i think steroids wont be beneficial to mushrooms or your health.

If its unclear what i mean by "bodybuilders supplements" have a look at this page to see which kinds of product i mean
( http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/apr/whey.html )

What is your opinion on that?


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Re: Bodybuilder supplement as mushroom growing supplement? [Re: Psiloman]
    #1966417 - 09/30/03 04:42 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I read a post that someone added in whey protein to the mix, they said that it increased production. I dont remember all the details though. I should be dreaming a batch soon with popcorn, I may throw some protein in there for kicks. not sure how much though.

some of the plans i have... popcorn and hominey jars, grain to grain transfers, and straw logs. I havent dreamed a batch in awhile, so hopefully everything goes smoothly with the addition of my glove box.

the only other body-builder supplement that i could think of is specific amino acids nessicary for psilly production.


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Re: Bodybuilder supplement as mushroom growing supplement? [Re: MrMushroom]
    #1966465 - 09/30/03 05:03 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...part=1&vc=1

good thread, mentions the use of whey protein powder as a suppliment.
good old annos multi-substrate test.

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Re: Bodybuilder supplement as mushroom growing supplement? [Re: dysphoria]
    #1966475 - 09/30/03 05:06 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

THat hasn't been tested yet. It's just theory.

I'm waiting to see the results of Anno's experiment to see if there is a correlation between potency and Tryptophan content.


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Re: Bodybuilder supplement as mushroom growing supplement? [Re: dysphoria]
    #1966477 - 09/30/03 05:06 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Rockhard bulky mushrooms
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Re: Bodybuilder supplement as mushroom growing supplement? [Re: sea_of_weed]
    #1966502 - 09/30/03 05:15 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

indeed hitler, im eagerly awaiting the results of that post.

the outcome will more than likely NOT have an impact on my methods, choice of substrate, etc. but all in all, its one of those rare posts that just entrall me. and it also appeals to my lazy side, since im not the one having to do the substrate test. =)

-jb


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Re: Bodybuilder supplement as mushroom growing supplement? [Re: dysphoria]
    #1966511 - 09/30/03 05:16 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I hope it works out. I have a lot of whey protein powder.


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Re: Bodybuilder supplement as mushroom growing supplement? [Re: StrongBad]
    #1973656 - 10/02/03 07:48 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Hmm..some responces here! I thought this thread was buried under over eager first time cultivation tips!

The addition of a supplement is indeed intriguing,and i do not see a reason why it shouldnt work.Dont forget that shrooms do not only need tryptophan to make the alkaloids in question.Many aminoacids are required for the cell growth and development ,especially making those precious enzymes.On the other hand those enzyme that make the needed conversions from tryptophan to psilocybin are closely regulated (look biology textbooks under DNA transcription/RNA translation regulation,promoters).

The addition of such a powder is a nice idea worth testing.Another idea would be looking at the literature for certain inducers that could be added to the culture so more of the enzymes are produced. Growth factors are also an interesting area but i think it has been discussed in the past with poor results (they have found a compound but it is isolated from polen of a certain plant species -very minute quantities present there,very expensive to buy of a chemical company...)

Thanks for the interest exhibited (by the way im a close watcher of Anno's thread on substrates :smile: )


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Re: Bodybuilder supplement as mushroom growing supplement? [Re: Psiloman]
    #1973905 - 10/02/03 09:00 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

how about whey protein powder as the whole substrate. just replace the brf with that...i may be talkin out my ass here but it was just a suggestion.


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