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Potency Fluctuations with Different Psilocybe Cubensis Strains * 2
    #11962317 - 02/04/10 02:50 PM (14 years, 28 days ago)

The most eaten shrooms are of the psilocybe cubensis species, but there are several strains from the same species, like equador, amazonian, penis envy, pf classic, and many more. Even though all of these strains are of the same species their potency still variates from strain to strain. Some cubies are twice as strong as some other cubies. Like equador, treasure coast, costa rico, and some others the average dose would be approximently 2-3 grams when completely dry. But now with strains like PF classic and Penis Envy, and some of the thailand strains like koh samui super strain, and even a strain called Nepal, Chitwan, are twice as potent as equador, treasure coast, burma, and costa rica. With strains like penis envy, pf classic, koh samui super strain the average dose would be 1-2 grams dried depending on tolerance. Anything over 2 grams dried of the more potent cubensis strains would put you in a state of mind where you might blackout throughout your trip and it might be so intense it would be uncomfortable. Penis envies are what everybody seems to like around here. Some people say the envies are potent but they don't yield as well. This is true, but if you know what your doing you can get descent yields and you can get the penis envy strain to drop large spore prints with a little patience on bulk substrates.
  Please feel free to list your favorite strains and your average dose. Also feel free to describe your trip like was it more of a body buzz or did you have more visuals or both. Some strains have a different onset of intensity. Like you might have more visuals at first then later the body buzz kicks in. Some strains might give off different vibes like fluncuations in the intensity of the trip. Different strains give off different hi's just like with cannabis which is the mother of all herbs I might add.
    All cubies grow on grains and/or compost so if your going to be eating them why not grow the more potent strains, unless you just like the taste of fresh mushrooms, which most people don't. Feel free to list your experiences with more exotic species and strains too. Like psilocybe azurescens, panaelous cyanescens, and many others.

An if anyone has had any experience with the so called hybids like creepers, shooting stars, star gazers, reality benders, illusion weavers, and a few more feel free to give a describtion on potency levels, duration of trip, dried weight dose, and anything else you might want to add. I'd like to find a strain that yield very well and has medium to high potency levels. A strain that has semi solid stems with big fleshy caps. I know they're out there, it'e just this trail an error stuff gets a lil frustrating and expensive.

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Re: Potency Fluctuations with Different Psilocybe Cubensis Strains [Re: mycoboto]
    #11962873 - 02/04/10 04:13 PM (14 years, 28 days ago)

cubes a cube (except PE) IMO

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Re: Potency Fluctuations with Different Psilocybe Cubensis Strains [Re: mycoboto]
    #11962882 - 02/04/10 04:14 PM (14 years, 28 days ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10560039/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/7

I know it is a long thread, but read the first post + whatever you feel like after that. :thumbup:

It will answer a lot of questions you have, and THEN you can post there and get some really good information from very wise people who post in that thread. :mushroom2:

BTW, Welcome to shroomery. :cool:

EDIT : I liked a MS b+ crop a lot, very visual, body feels a little numb spiked with a touch of mindfuck, ...potent.

15g fresh = talking to trees, getting vibes off everything, aztec motif patterns intertwined and in motion with the natural patterns of a long, barren walking trail in the middle of the summer.........

More than I got from a MS tc grow. which was hardly visual, with no edge of intensity. 3g dry = relaxing, but nothing special.



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Re: Potency Fluctuations with Different Psilocybe Cubensis Strains [Re: Shad0w]
    #11970329 - 02/05/10 04:12 PM (14 years, 27 days ago)

The potency of a cube depends more on the grow parameters. I've had awesome cambo's with great visuals and extreme body highs. But using the same exact isolate the next batch was not as potent, probably about half as potent as my last grow. Both used different substrate recipes, which is the reason for the potency difference (Again IMO)

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Re: Potency Fluctuations with Different Psilocybe Cubensis Strains [Re: Dbb5]
    #19619759 - 02/26/14 07:16 AM (10 years, 6 days ago)

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Dbb5 said:
cubes a cube (except PE) IMO




Then why not B+? I thought that has differences from the "classic cube"? I feel that any cube could be more or less potent depending on how it is grown. I've noticed that the same people, no matter what strain, using the same procedures, tend to actually get the same results most times because i think it's how the cube is cared for. Do you guys actually think PE truly has more psilo by genetics? And are you only referring to PE original or also PE 5 and 6? (I've wanted to try PE 6). I hear B+ has differences in its spores, is this actually true or just another rumor?


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Re: Potency Fluctuations with Different Psilocybe Cubensis Strains [Re: Dbb5]
    #19619762 - 02/26/14 07:19 AM (10 years, 6 days ago)

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Dbb5 said:
The potency of a cube depends more on the grow parameters. I've had awesome cambo's with great visuals and extreme body highs. But using the same exact isolate the next batch was not as potent, probably about half as potent as my last grow. Both used different substrate recipes, which is the reason for the potency difference (Again IMO)




I've only done 2 strains, Cambodian and B+ (attempting treasure coast next) but I do find those combos to be really strong. Like I said above, since it was the same methods, the results weren't too different, but even just PF cakes and good spores and I got massive flushes of cambos that were extremely potent. They also actually do feel a bit different than B+. But B has this certain kind of relaxation (and it turned out really potent as well, but perhaps less "intense" than cambos)

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An if anyone has had any experience with the so called hybids like creepers, shooting stars, star gazers, reality benders, illusion weavers, and a few more feel free to give a describtion on potency levels, duration of trip, dried weight dose, and anything else you might want to add. I'd like to find a strain that yield very well and has medium to high potency levels. A strain that has semi solid stems with big fleshy caps. I know they're out there, it'e just this trail an error stuff gets a lil frustrating and expensive.




Just a marketing ploy for the gullible. You won't find these "hybrids" on reliable sites because they're basically just taking some regular mids and calling them hydroponic northern lights specifically blended just for your tripping pleasure, to make an analogy. If you notice the only sites that sell hybrids are the ones that overprice everything else.

There are some "real" hybrids out there, like for example PE 6 is Texan crossed with Penis Envy, but on sponsors you will find its not any pricier than any other cube, and it shouldn't be. These are just MS spores. Try any strain you find interesting, and if your growth parameters are correct, you will be happy with it


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Edited by Fractal420 (02/26/14 07:26 AM)

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Re: Potency Fluctuations with Different Psilocybe Cubensis Strains [Re: Fractal420]
    #19620172 - 02/26/14 09:49 AM (10 years, 5 days ago)

'Strains' are made up marketing gimmick IMHO...
Every spore print has genetic variations ... I.e., strains so.... What are you buying?

Growing conditions matter more for potency... As does age, handling, drying technique,  etc.

What you can say about mushrooms (or cactus) is ... Potency varies

Within a species... As far as I am concerned, differences outside of growing conditions are mostly based in the Set of the user... And placebo effect... If someone told you this strain is more visual... For you probably will be...

Just my 2 cents
Others will have other very good ideas


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Re: Potency Fluctuations with Different Psilocybe Cubensis Strains [Re: Fractal420]
    #19621238 - 02/26/14 01:55 PM (10 years, 5 days ago)

4 year old thread...


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Re: Potency Fluctuations with Different Psilocybe Cubensis Strains [Re: Dbb5]
    #19621293 - 02/26/14 02:05 PM (10 years, 5 days ago)

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Dbb5 said:
cubes a cube (except PE) IMO




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