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monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino 2nd flush (or how GLC Bite my a$$) * 1
    #19610054 - 02/23/14 08:53 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Using this method from elasticaltiger http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19370404

I have 4 tubs set up. 66qt from walmart. I used coir and 2 qt verm bucket tek from damion5050 with 7 qt. Of spawn. I have the same air pump as ET(elasticaltiger) and will be setting up one tube per tub as elasticaltiger said he had better results that way. I have one T joint and will hook up one air tube to two holes on one tub and see if there is a difference with 2 seperate intakes vs. one. The other two tubes will be doing the old fashion polyfill.
Strains are A+ albino and B+ and maybe some golden teachers. Due to moving I labeled the jars by #'s but not strains. So it'll be interesting as i have the right jars togeter but not strains. Plan is to hook up air pumps without any other holes then the imperfect lid and let run 24/7
When ready.

Sub
2 qt verm
1 brick coir from petco
Bucket tek

Spawn
7 qt rye berrys
These jars where injected with Grain Liquid Culture
Pics below are of two GLC jars i have which, i think ill be moving away from.

Notes
I forgot to soak the grains before mixing in with the sub ( DOH!)
I was really looking forward to doing that.

Fingers Crossed for no contaim issues!
Gonna start prepairing my sub like frank does as well if i get some contaim issues this round. Seems like i always get lucky and get a contaim so i need to start being better about being clean.
Below are some varius pictures i thought i would share to show what im using. You can see some of my lids, THe air pump, the tyvek i use for the lids, and of course my cat. Had to share :nyan:






Update 2/28/2014

:nyan:  :nyan:
3/3/2014 day 9!
All seems going well. Got a slight worry about the other 3 tubs not being as far as the 4th is. I'm assuming the reason is that the other 3 have more of a thicker cover of the coir/verm mix from the bucket tek from when I spawned the tubs. That or its just different Strains sense i have 3 i started with and then lost track of which jars are which strains when i moved. But i like it. Makes it like a surprise :smile: I'm not going to case either.  Unless I'm convinced otherwise;) Looks like ill be able to move the one thats almost to 100% here to fruiting soon.
Sorry for the pics not being labeled by tub. Ill start doing that soon.


3/5/2014
Worked for 6 hours last night. Pasteurized and got another tub put together. I'm excited cause its the first I've pasteurized the sub and soaked the spawn so it will hopefully turn out well. I also spent a lot of time making new lids and pressure cooked once too. Made for a long evening.
I used 1 brick coir 2 qts verm and 5qts water. I usually use 4 so seeing 5 will also be interesting. I don't know the strain either.



3/7/2014
Ok here are some pics of the auto tub I put the air pump to. There is also a pic of the 3rd tub that has not contaimed yet. There is also a pic of the 5th tub I think 4 days into spawning.
1. This tub might have trich like the other two it resembled.
2. Inside of tub 5. This one had grain dunk, and i pasturized the spawn like Frank. Looks way good so far for day 3
3. Outside of the 5th tub and the 4th with the air pump
4. Inside of tub 4 thats 1 day into fruiting.


3/8
Knots anyone?



3/10
Think I have a contaim.never had this before . Maybe cobweb?
Do these jars have a contaim if they don't finish 100% ?



3/11/2014



3/12/2014
Both tubs so far look like the albino right now. Which leads me to believe then that the b+ and the gt I also started with are the contaims. Happy to get me some fruits !
The tub with the green fuzz has not moved or changed...


3/13/2014
Trich I see you! 3rd tub is at least gonna hopefully see 1 flush. Tub 4 is lookin prime :smile:



3/16




3/17
New new



3/18
About 5 days after shaking when they sat at about 98%


3/19/2-14
Harvesting today :electrickoolaid:



3/25
Second flush



Also i put together 4 tubs last night and have two mini tubs on the way. My agar is cooling off and will start some cultures when i get home today:)
Pretty excited
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3/27/2014
Just got my second flush. Will update with weight later tonight.

So far the mini's are looking good(day 3 of fruiting) I have 5 tubs that i just spawned to. 4 are like faht's tubs ( mix, save 2 qts for frost layer, then a casing layer) Just for the hell of it sense they will probably contaim anyways. Each jar i put in i made sure to smell twice or even 3 times while pouring out so maybe :shrug:
So if i get anything it will be a plus. If not, i expected it.

2 ounces dry

Gonna end this thread after these 5 tubs and start a new one following my Agar and iso's to fruiting.
:justcantwait:

(In progress)
Thngs that im changing during my grow.
-Soak spawn for 30 minutes. Litterally soaks up that water.
-going SDF's for lid GE instead of envalope tyvek. Easier to apply, 6 to 8 jars per disk if cut right, Better at keeping contaims out
-Keep record and track of everything very well. Dont slack on this.
-GLC and LC suck when the master gets contaiminated. slow compaired to G2G
-cut trash bag, get rid of tape.


Things im learning
-Bacteria and contamination are hard to see in jars sometimes, Shaking and watching recovery helps weed out the bad.
-i hate LC
- use to boil the rye berrys for 10 minutes at a roaring boil. This was horrible. I now watch for the first bubbles, you can tell usually when the grain turns a golden brown. Thats when i start straining it and in most cases taking it off earlier is better then later.
- Using a shoe on your hand to break up the jars is nice.



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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19610073 - 02/23/14 08:58 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Pics of everything please. :thumbup:


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: exzile]
    #19610087 - 02/23/14 09:02 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

24/7 air pump is going to dry everything out, be ready to mist often.

You'll get better flushes with a properly dialed in mono as well, that electrical crap is for new cultivators who don't get that simpler is better.

If you are not drilling holes like a mono, don't call it one. It is just a tub.

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19610124 - 02/23/14 09:08 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Come on frank, give it a chance. I love to watch people experiment. Unfortunately this thread shows up every few years and people try it for a while, then give up to the normal mono tub style. I am totally interested in seeing more results like elastictiger's. I think we call it a monotub because there is only one tub. Not based on the number of holes in it.

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: Sockadin]
    #19610146 - 02/23/14 09:12 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Give it a chance? I just gave him advice, saying he will need to mist often. I also wished him luck.

As for nomenclature on the shroomery, 99.9% of the time monotub means large holes drilled in it, at least 4 holes. Ohmatic coined the term if I'm not mistaken.

I am asking the OP to clarify because a no-hole tub + air pump is not a monotub, it is a no-hole tub with a pump or just a tub with a pump.

I'm not sure if/why you're on my back here, but get off of it please.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19613961 - 02/24/14 08:17 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

its a pump tub. Much negative, very jealous, why sad?
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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: exzile]
    #19614004 - 02/24/14 08:28 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

it's a pump tub, poor results, very cost ineffective, why bother?

no one's going to be jelly, because EVEN IF OP manages to dial it in it's still more expensive and at that point it would be working on par with other designs. OP doesn't realize it's going to be more hands on, less automated, and more maintenance than a passive design fruiting chamber.

:shrug:

Not angry, not mad, not jelly, but trying to think of the OPs best interest :shrug:

I understand people have different goals, but the only goal a shitty FC is for is the people that want to waist their own time and money in a hobby. If you want low yields and hands on work you can do it that way too, but I didn't think that's what OP wanted. OP can correct me if I'm wrong though.

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19614088 - 02/24/14 08:54 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I disagree, air pumps can be just as effective and fully automated. It just takes effort to do it right.

I don't open my tubs except to pick the fruits. And mine uses an air pump.

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: fourleaf033]
    #19614106 - 02/24/14 08:57 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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I disagree, air pumps can be just as effective and fully automated. It just takes effort to do it right.

I don't open my tubs except to pick the fruits. And mine uses an air pump.



Congratulations, post a TEK, and some of your results from that setup, and see if other people can replicate it.

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19615432 - 02/25/14 05:53 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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hands on, less automated, and more maintenance than a passive design fruiting chamber.




Alot of times this will help people learn the conditions needed for cubes....

But afterwards they will realize that the simpler designs work better for less money, but its still a learning process.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19616919 - 02/25/14 03:00 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry I just saw the link to this. I'm excited to see if this method. can be recreated. 

This is a monotub. A single tub. A MONO-TUB.  If it bothers someone to call this a monotub then please come up with a better name for it.  'air tub' 'pump tub'.  I would prefer 'PTFC' I guess but I doubt anyone is going to adopt that.

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it's a pump tub, poor results, very cost ineffective, why bother?

no one's going to be jelly, because EVEN IF OP manages to dial it in it's still more expensive and at that point it would be working on par with other designs. OP doesn't realize it's going to be more hands on, less automated, and more maintenance than a passive design fruiting chamber.

:shrug:

Not angry, not mad, not jelly, but trying to think of the OPs best interest :shrug:

I understand people have different goals, but the only goal a shitty FC is for is the people that want to waist their own time and money in a hobby. If you want low yields and hands on work you can do it that way too, but I didn't think that's what OP wanted. OP can correct me if I'm wrong though.




That tub in the original PTFC thread is on the way to yield close to a pound (though I'll concede that it may not actually make that mark.) Is that bad yield for a multispore monotub?  The shrooms produced were thick and meaty with a wet to dry ratio closer to 80% than to %90.

Would your traditional monotub work with a blanket draped over it in a closet?  That became part of the reason I kept going with the pump.  It could potentially yield good results as a stealth grow. All that would need to be added is a blue LED (or five) on top of the tub under the blanket and bam. Closet grow.

Seriously now. Could your the traditional design work right in a closed closet?

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Using this method from elasticaltiger http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19370404

I have 4 tubs set up. 66qt from walmart. I used coir and 2 qt verm. with 7 qt. Of spawn. I have the same air pump and will be setting up one tube per tub as elasticaltiger said he had better results that way. I have one T joint and will hook up one air tube to two holes and see if there is a difference. I don't know if I will do the old fashion way with the other two tubs yet.
Strains are A+ albino and B+ and maybe some golden teachers. Due to moving I labeled the jars by #'s but not strains. So it'll be interesting. Ill post pics soon. Plan is to hook up air pumps without any other holes then the imperfect lid and let run 24/7
When ready.




Alex.  Whatever you do. Don't risk your grow for the sake of trying to prove the method. If you notice the sub drying out like frank says then mist it or disconnect one of the tubes.  I'm very excited to see what your experience is but for all I know, there could be some variable in my house that makes this more successful. 

Frank. How is the air coming from the pump any 'dryer' than air coming through polyfill?  Do you wet your polyfill?

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24/7 air pump is going to dry everything out, be ready to mist often.

You'll get better flushes with a properly dialed in mono as well, that electrical crap is for new cultivators who don't get that simpler is better.
:goodluck:




Still don't get how the air from the pump is dryer than the air coming through polyfill.  Is there a magic elf inside the fluff that adds humidity to the water or do you think the pump puts in TOO MUCH air flow causing the sub to dry? I didn't have to mist often and I live in a low humidity area (I shock my cats every time I pet them or when I roll over in bed)

Towards the end in fact this method was pretty much neglect tek and it has (and still continues as of this day) to yield mushrooms.

How is this not 'simple' ?

I drill two tiny holes.  Instead of mucking around with polyfill I just pop the hoses in and then plug in the pump.  Mist once a day if needed.  Still 'simpler' than pf tek at least.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19616987 - 02/25/14 03:14 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

:nothingtoadd:

Hmmm FOR SCIENCE!

Maybe a hardy shroomerite with a good isolate/monoculture will do a side by side test :strokebeard:


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19617037 - 02/25/14 03:26 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Still don't get how the air from the pump is dryer than the air coming through polyfill.




It isn't, the polyfill traps humidity in the chamber though so it doesn't push all the RH out.

Your tub did fine, for sure. However, it's still not technically a monotub, it's an air pump tub, that was my original point.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19617266 - 02/25/14 04:12 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I have 4 tubs so two will do be in the experiment. I'm using one tube per tub sense ET said one held better humidity and moisture. One tube for one tub is going to have a splitter so that there will be two air intake ports on one tub.
Ill make sure to watch the moisture level and will make the proper adjustments that will be needed.

I like the idea of this set and forget sense I would like to be able to stack them in a closet sense I don't have a room to share and would like girls in my bed and friends over haha:)

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19617385 - 02/25/14 04:34 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

My main fruiting chamber is a plastic tub with water in the bottom and a platic platform with holes drilled in it for the cake, pan, whatever I am growing in this time around to set on.With four aquarium air pumps that are pumping in the water at all times. Any pictures of cultivated mushrooms that I have posted so far have been in this fruiting chamber. For humidity, I used to use just air stones which worked well and I got a successful grow out of that but they got clogged so they were removed. At the current time I am using one of those ultrasonic fogger things. Working wonderfully for me so far.

I like this design because there are so many variables, I can very finely adjust it for what a particular mushroom species might need. I wanted something that would produce enormous amounts of free air exchange so I could do things like Reishi and get decent conks. I am not after massive yields so if this is hindering my yields I am not really concerned. I just want to grow mushrooms. Really I guess it is more of an experimental design so I can get a feel for what each mushroom needs so that in the future if I do step up to something on a larger scale it will be easier to give the mushrooms what they need.

I read about similar designs and their flaws, I built it anyway. It works for me and provides me which exactly the device I was after. It works for me, others results may vary. You want something you can set and forget, then stick with your average monotub. I do have a little mini monotub that I use from time to time that works wonders. I don't really think that adding an air pump to a monotub will really improve it, they seem to work well as designed and without humidification I think it will dry out the substrate. If you really want to do it find a way to humidify the incoming air but I don't think you will be able to get enough humidity. But I do think that air pumps can be implemented into this hobby if applied correctly.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #19617430 - 02/25/14 04:45 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds like something like this
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6967150/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/5
I think i might try this next.
I like the idea of a bigger tub. ( yea more eggs in one basket)
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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19621002 - 02/26/14 01:12 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

These dudes bashing this thread must not have seen the one with the successful 7 flush log. Whoch is where I found your log from. I am doing the same thing. These people these days with negative comments should just keep to themselves.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: exzile]
    #19621132 - 02/26/14 01:38 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

i don't even see any negetive comments, some suggestions and discussion but other then that:shrug:


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: cronicr]
    #19621159 - 02/26/14 01:42 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: cronicr]
    #19621196 - 02/26/14 01:48 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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i don't even see any negetive comments, some suggestions and discussion but other then that:shrug:




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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19632519 - 02/28/14 10:01 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I'm sorry I used wrong words. :havesomescience:
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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: exzile]
    #19632752 - 02/28/14 11:24 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I'm so glad the cat part is up to snuf :thumbup: I was about ready to tell you the tek was incomplete!  Glad to see good colonization on the substrate.  Did you already drill your holes or are you waiting until full colonization / consolidation before you drill / putting into fruiting conditions?

One aspect I like about this method is that it's really easy to just keep the tub as a full tub.  If it gets contaminated it's easy to throw away because it's all contained. You don't have to drill the little holes until its actually time to fruit.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19633987 - 03/01/14 09:30 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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If it gets contaminated it's easy to throw away because it's all contained.




Why is it easier to throw away a substrate in a tote with no holes than it is to throw away a substrate in a tote that has taped up holes?

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19635462 - 03/01/14 03:41 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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If it gets contaminated it's easy to throw away because it's all contained.




Why is it easier to throw away a substrate in a tote with no holes than it is to throw away a substrate in a tote that has taped up holes?

That makes no sense.




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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19635980 - 03/01/14 05:25 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: cronicr]
    #19638182 - 03/02/14 04:30 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah we are just having a conversation about people experimenting, and the other people saying the earth is flat. Yes I agree with you Frank that the air outside will dry out your sub, because of moisture exchange. If the RH outside is between 65-80 and the air inside is 90+, couldn't he also end up seeing more pins due to the dry air promoting evaporation off of the sub.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: Sockadin]
    #19644397 - 03/03/14 01:16 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

3/3/2014 day 9!
All seems going well. Got a slight worry about the other 3 tubs not being as far as the 4th is. I'm assuming the reason is that the other 3 have more of a thicker cover of the coir/verm mix from the bucket tek from when I spawned the tubs and its just growing under it all. That or its just different Strains sense i have 3 i started with and then lost track of which jars are which strains when i moved. But i like it. Makes it like a surprise :smile: I'm not going to case either.  Unless I'm convinced otherwise;) Looks like ill be able to move the one thats almost to 100% here to fruiting soon.
Sorry for the pics not being labeled by tub. Ill start doing that soon.

Also saw i have 20 jars coming around to 100% as well so ill be able to case up some more tubs in the near future as well.

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19644674 - 03/03/14 02:28 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: Gondola]
    #19648562 - 03/04/14 02:37 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Just started fruiting over here. They seem to do be doing well with the airpump on low. I have a 4 outlet ActiveAqua pump, cost me $70, back in my hydroponics days.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: exzile]
    #19649766 - 03/04/14 11:57 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

3/4/2014
DAY 10
So im kinda worried a bit. I havnt seen really any noticable growth in the other 3 tubs and they are not at 100% yet or really even close... I have a few theories i wanted to voice and see what opinions there are. In the end the best thing to do is wait which is what ill end up doing.
So, looking at the process i did to spawn my grain, i used damion5050's bucket tek and saved some verm/coir for a top layer. My question is do you think its possible that a small amount of the top layer got dried out and the mycilium just colonized beneath the top dry sub? Really hoping im not gonna get a contaim in any of the 4 :/
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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19650170 - 03/04/14 01:35 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I didn't use a top layer for mine.  Just to be clear you haven't introduced the air yet right? Still completely sealed for colonizing?

I always kinda heard that a top layer was unnecessary and considered a little out dated (as far cubes and monotubs are concerned)

If there is a 'top layer' where there are no inoculation points then that area is going to take longer to colonize.  Probably nothing to worry about though.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19650194 - 03/04/14 01:40 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Yep Just popped the top once or twice for a pic and a fast sniff.
Yea, Im Guessing that it was just a bit thick in some places. I dont see any contaims yet. 
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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19650202 - 03/04/14 01:42 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

y is your liner taped to the walls? kinda defeats the purpose


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: cronicr]
    #19650245 - 03/04/14 01:51 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19650491 - 03/04/14 02:50 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19651832 - 03/04/14 07:14 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I always wait until I see some pins.  But I don't think it would hurt anything if you're sure it's fully colonized.  When it doubt. It never hurts to wait another day.  But I always get pins before introducing fruiting conditions.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19653616 - 03/05/14 08:08 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

3/5/2014
Worked for 6 hours last night. Pasteurized and got another tub put together. I'm excited cause its the first I've pasteurized the sub and soaked the spawn so it will hopefully turn out well. I also spent a lot of time making new lids and pressure cooked once too. Made for a long evening.



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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19654508 - 03/05/14 12:40 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Trich in two tubs I'm assuming the third will get it too but j think the fourth one that's doing the best is fine.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19654524 - 03/05/14 12:43 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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I hope neither of those pictures are the fourth one, because I see mold in both :frown:


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19654526 - 03/05/14 12:44 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

sometimes when i use a top layer of coir it doesn't get colonized either.  even if its only a light 1/4" dusting.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19654547 - 03/05/14 12:49 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Frank, the fourth is 100% completely white and ready for fruiting soon. So this being day 11 should I be blaming my spawn? Or you think it might be the sub?


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19654562 - 03/05/14 12:53 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Your substrate is coir, the trich came from your spawn guaranteed. Coir doesn't germinate mold spores even when sterilized.

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19654572 - 03/05/14 12:56 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: cronicr]
    #19654583 - 03/05/14 01:00 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

For the future, I would recommend against tyvek envelopes (pores expand in the PC, leading to compromised filters) and you should never use a syringe filter for a grain jar, it doesn't not provide enough GE.

You need to smell each jar before spawning. Trich smells distinct, you would have easily been able to tell.


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    #19654601 - 03/05/14 01:05 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

good catch, i didn't even spot the whatman


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19654725 - 03/05/14 01:24 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

so i should use SFD instead right? Should i toss and start over with the jars that have
watman filters?

Just so frustrating......
but its good cause with failure comes experience.

I do smell before. So i dont know how i missed it:/

grr...
im assuming thats why all 3 have such slow growth compaired to the one that is doing very well.

Now im worried about the 50+ jars i have going from g2g.

Hopefully i dont need to start all over but should probably start just in case.

Im guessing its from my GLC probably. Ive already moved away from it. G2G is where im staying.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19654754 - 03/05/14 01:29 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry to hear things aren't going well for your tubs.  Let's hope number 4 will pull through.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19654755 - 03/05/14 01:29 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

50+ jars is a lot to lose. :feelsbadman:


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    #19654892 - 03/05/14 01:54 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

yea, i have high hopes for 4. 5 is i think going to be good as well and have high hopes on that one but if its in the spawn then its just a crap shoot sense all my jars and strains are mixed together, idk whats what.

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19654902 - 03/05/14 01:55 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

i started a journal here for that exact reason BETTER NOTES.  I'm lazy, but like to share, so i ended up posting what i did and using that as notes. i still do it.


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    #19654980 - 03/05/14 02:08 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

yea, i think im gonna "borrow" a notebook from work and use that.

With my lids i also had some issues. My friend helped me make some and did two things i didnt like.
1. for the inoculation hole, he only applied silicon to one side. So when it dried it was easy for it to pop off.
2. He put the tyvek on top of the jar and didnt do a good job sealing it with silicon. So I could imagine pressure or air trying to escape and not being able to fast causeing the seal around the Tyvek to break in order to release more air.

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
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    #19659476 - 03/06/14 01:53 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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But an experience none the less:thumbup:



Like your profile pic:)

update
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The two tubs have trich spreading so nothing new there,
The other two have started forming knots.
One doesnt look 100% done but i did put a thick top layer of coir and verm so im thinking it just dried a bit out on the very top. No visible signs of trich..... yet.....in either . not gonna be surprised if it comes.

Im going to hook up a air tube tonight to the one that looks the best. I want to wait on the other incase that green monster rears its head and i dont want to be blowing those spores everywhere.

The 5th is starting to come alive:)

I decided to put the 4th tub into fruiting. Has One tube from the air pump going into the tub.
Im waiting on the third to see if Trich is coming.

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    #19663642 - 03/07/14 02:09 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

3/7/2014
Ok here are some pics of the auto tub I put the air pump to. There is also a pic of the 3rd tub that has not contaimed yet. There is also a pic of the 5th tub I think 4 days into spawning.
1. This tub might have trich like the other two it resembled.
2. Inside of tub 5. This one had grain dunk, and i pasturized the spawn like Frank. Looks way good so far for day 3
3. Outside of the 5th tub and the 4th with the air pump
4. Inside of tub 4 thats 1 day into fruiting.

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    #19669160 - 03/08/14 07:43 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: cronicr]
    #19674848 - 03/10/14 04:36 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

It is hard to see, are u using a camera phone? Picture #4 has some funky stuff going on. It looks like your myc is pissing, but it is hard to see from the pictures. I hope everything works out well for you bro.

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    #19675161 - 03/10/14 08:43 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Yea its a camera phone, But its a  galaxy s4 so i wouldnt think the pics are that bad... well, looking at the pics from my phone they look like there yellow and green. Idk if this is because i replaced my screen lcd screen or not. But on the  computer the pics i think look fine. Ill take some new ones, but the knots are now looking to start going into pins. hopefully.


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    #19675904 - 03/10/14 12:48 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

3/10
Think I have a contaim.never had this before . Maybe cobweb?
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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19675917 - 03/10/14 12:50 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

that is indeed a contam, looks like trich


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: cronicr]
    #19675942 - 03/10/14 12:56 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

It's hard to tell but it looks like green myc. Going into the air. Or like a small amount of green polyfill poking out of the soil


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19675945 - 03/10/14 12:57 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Green is always bad. Those are mold spores. A lot of that mycelium does look like mold and not cubensis when it is seen up close.

Toss it.

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19676095 - 03/10/14 01:27 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Well, i wouldnt be surprised if it was trich sense thats what happened to the last 2. Just interesting its showing signs now 7 days later or there abouts and it looks nothing similar to the last trich..

I was thinking the same thing about the mycilium not looking correct. But now in the spots i questioned there are knots formed.

Im gonna wait a few days and see what happens.


ON a seperate note, I see my first few pins on the 4th tub and the 5th is still coming along nicely. Almost to 100% . I have not misted or fanned once.

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19678267 - 03/10/14 08:54 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Well, i wouldnt be surprised if it was trich sense thats what happened to the last 2. Just interesting its showing signs now 7 days later or there abouts and it looks nothing similar to the last trich..

I was thinking the same thing about the mycilium not looking correct. But now in the spots i questioned there are knots formed.

Im gonna wait a few days and see what happens.


ON a seperate note, I see my first few pins on the 4th tub and the 5th is still coming along nicely. Almost to 100% . I have not misted or fanned once.




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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19680632 - 03/11/14 12:37 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Well, The main one is looking like its getting a bit dry:/ The condinsation is still there on the walls, but not as thick as it was. Soooo might mist a bit.... Idk if temp has anything to do with it but the room dropped down to 70 degrees today. Im gonna check when i get home but i upped the temp a bit.


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    #19680675 - 03/11/14 12:50 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Well, The main one is looking like its getting a bit dry:/ The condinsation is still there on the walls, but not as thick as it was. Soooo might mist a bit.... Idk if temp has anything to do with it but the room dropped down to 70 degrees today. Im gonna check when i get home but i upped the temp a bit.



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    #19680737 - 03/11/14 01:13 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I thought so. I still get hit with humidity and "warm air" when i open the lid. So ill check back when i get home and see the temp.


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    #19680799 - 03/11/14 01:28 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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I thought so. I still get hit with humidity when i open the lid.



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    #19680902 - 03/11/14 01:54 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19680928 - 03/11/14 02:01 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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    #19680990 - 03/11/14 02:13 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I am not saying that the humidity is not hitting you in the face everytime you open the lid, because that would just be ignorant of me, I know humidity rises, but what you feel hitting your face is the heat, not the humidity.

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19682265 - 03/11/14 06:37 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I really hope you don't end up with all of that stuff contaminated man, that would be a damn shame. This is why you don't jump in the deep end right off. I had a similar issue a couple years back, lost 24 tubs to trich, not a single fruit to show for it.

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    #19682291 - 03/11/14 06:43 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Damn that woulda sucked. 24 tubs. :-(

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    #19682308 - 03/11/14 06:48 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Yea. If it happens it happens. I have a bunch of agar on the way and everything I need to get back in it. I also have a jar I just knocked up with the rest of my syringe I had from the first spores I ordered and arrive friday.so I'm excited :smile: I think it's fun and ill learn more as I go. I'm done with GLC as I think that's what bit me if those jar do go bad.

The first time I added coffee to the bucket tek and thought I was being smart. Those 7 tubs went bad quick. Not as bad as 24 tho. Damn. The thing is if you get into the habit of pcing they add up quick :smile:


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    #19682707 - 03/11/14 07:54 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

is that second to last picture the aa+?
what does that stand for again? amazonian albino+?  or am i way off?


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    #19685643 - 03/12/14 12:35 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Both tubs so far look like the albino right now. Which leads me to believe then that the b+ and the gt I also started with are the contaims. Happy to get me some fruits !
The tub with the green fuzz has not moved or changed...


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    #19690597 - 03/13/14 12:33 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Trich I see you! 3rd tub is at least gonna hopefully see 1 flush. Tub 4 is lookin prime :smile:



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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19690841 - 03/13/14 01:35 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know if you tossed the 50 jars or not like you were talking about, but damn that's alot of spawn.

Others may not agree with me, but if you are just out right writing them off I suggest taking any of them that are not obviously contaminated and if you have any bags spawning them with coir/verm to the bags.  I've done that with several qt jars of spawn I had that were suspect, like stalling out, or even some I had that started to slightly ferment.  But I also impulse seal them and let them completely fruit invitro never giving them FAE until after the first flush.  If it does turn out contaminated then it is self contained and easy to trash, but I've been able to get pretty decent flushes on suspect jars completely invitro.

I'm just saying if you are planning on tossing them anyways, because I'm sure with little work you'd still salvage ALOT of shrooms from that many jars.

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: funton]
    #19690922 - 03/13/14 01:52 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

well i was gonna spawn them to coir and verm, but only using the bucket tek and soaking them.

So when i moved i put the jars i thought where in groups into the jar boxes and used a series of dots. About a week ago i took one jar from 3 different batches and g2g them to 3 groups of 10 jars. then im going to pasturize some coir/verm and spawn 1 or 2 jars from each group to a mini mono. If one group goes green ill toss that lot. If it doesnt ill G2G the rest.

On the other hand i get my agar tomorrow and then i can start on me some iso's. So im pretty stoked for that. It will give me a chance to start fresh. Test some iso's. Pick the best and stick with that. The only sad part is its looking like the only ones i have flushing are the albino a+ which i dont care for the trip. I LOVE my B+'s they always give me such a nice body high. like im on some intense pain meds or something.  But might be lost in all the wash. Hope i dont end up with just these guys. At least ill have prints to trade :smile:

I do like that idea a lot and makes sense.  The issue im having now with some jars is not 100% colonizing and stalling out at 98 or 99% so im gonna go home and shake those guys tonight.

I know im suppose to shake to see if they recover, but what exactly is recoever? Like starting to see the mycilium streach and grow again? Or like two days to solid white? cause 2 of the ones i shook are "recovering" but not 100% solid white. But you can see it visuably starting to come back.


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    #19691021 - 03/13/14 02:20 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

wow dude, u have a great attitude considering u lost all the tubs!  i'd cry for three days.  agar is great!  then ill b able to tell if ur cultures are clean when ur making a master.


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    #19691030 - 03/13/14 02:22 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

u don't need till its gets fully colonized again if ur doing that shake at 100% to see if its contam'd what u describe sounds right, just making sure all the grains are fuzzing up and reaching out again.  2 days is good


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The problem im having visualizing is say the one spot doesnt colonize ( size of a few grains) If i shake it wouldnt those specific grains just continue to not have the mycilium touch it? Or is it the idea if i shake it then what ever it was is now spread everywhere in there? That makes more sense. which in that case i got some jars looking fine:)


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    #19691061 - 03/13/14 02:30 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

yes the second one.  I've thought about that too, but if the grains are on top and not fully colonized here and there its ok, just dried up 99% of the time.  if some grains are at the bottom and kinda look wet and uncolonized, then sometimes theres a problem to keep an eye on


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The pasturized tub tricked out before any pins. So that's a bummer. Oh and my agar didn't come so I'm sad about that. I guess there was a late  truck or something. Idk.


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nice pic!  glad that one is doing well for you!
and thats sucks about the agar not coming :frown:  i've had coir delivered a week late before, and my fridge was FULL of spawn jars.  had to keep the beer on my roof to make room.


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Yep. I'm happy with it. Just more excited to start work on iso's. So the air pump seems to be doing well when the spawn isn't bad .


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agar is fun.  i have to say, I'm better at agar work than i am at growing shrooms :facepalm:
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    #19711790 - 03/18/14 05:06 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

alex thats cool u modded the pp5 lids like that, but all u needed was micropore on a small hole.  its not for GE, its so the agar doesn't boil over during the PC process.







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Didnt have any tape :/
Thought about using polyfill
i got 24 sfd's so ill have some for a bit.
But will be getting the tape in the near future.
Gonna start my first batch tonight.
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The fruits look dry, but damaged from improper misting as evidenced by the dimples and damaged places on the caps.
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    #19712195 - 03/18/14 08:40 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

I thought they looked kinda weird. Thanks RR.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19712332 - 03/18/14 09:32 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Remove the tape from the liner unless you want side pins when your substrate shrinks :wink:

Also, it's the least amount of hassle to cut the liner down to size after you spawn to your substrate but you could still trim it now if you wanted to.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19712346 - 03/18/14 09:36 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Yea, ive started doing this with my other tubs. Ill cut it down to size after the first flush.

So i have a question, When i shook my jars, there where ones that started coming back in 2 or 3 days but not in all spots.  Is the fact that its growing back mean its good to go? or the spots its not starting contaimed? Been about 5 days.  Cause i had 4 or 5 that just didnt do anything, those i knew where bad and i opened and it smelled horrible. So that was cool to weed those out.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19712350 - 03/18/14 09:38 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

If you shake at 100% colonization, it should recover evenly. Those spaces that are not, that's most likely bacteria, most certainly a contam.

If it doesn't recover completely after a day or two, toss it.

I'd step up your sterile technique man, you are having lots of issues. Get a better still air box, turn off all the fans and central air, work quickly and carefully.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19712403 - 03/18/14 09:54 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Well, I know the issue is a result of a few things. I did a GLC and i believe it was cotaiminated. I noticed air bubbles coming from the side of the injection port when i was pulling some out, completely done with LC. It also didnt help that i did a horrible labeling job. So im sure i was G2G bad jars. Also my lids where not up to my standard as i had a friend help make them with me and he did not listen and we used usps tyvek. So i have SDF and plastic lids to do that 100% correct now. I also have agar now that im gonna start playing with tonight and working on getting some iso's.  Ive knocked up a jar with the rest of my spores also to start from scratch and as a last ditch effort as it was my last spores.. Working on getting a collection of prints. Also planning on taking some clones from the one thats fruiting.

But hey im gaining experience :smile: so thats positive.

I have 3 tubs coming up that are on day 8 today and are looking like they will be ready to put to fruiting soon. But wont be surprised if it fails. Gonna go home and check the jars any that are not 100% im tossing. This run im gonna make sure to document everything and stay clean. i figure ill be happy in a month or two:)


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19713141 - 03/18/14 01:00 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

3/18
About 5 days after shaking when they sat at about 98%.
Im saying they are all trashable. They look bad, even worse when i look at it on the computer ha. Im gonna try and see if there are ANY that are 100% colonized without question when i get home today.

Also think that there was a lack of humidity or moisture in the tub which cause small fruits.( i think these are smaller then normal) Due to the dry air that was being pushed in. There also appears to be fuzzy feat..... ive misted about 3 times sense fruiting. never fanned.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19717519 - 03/19/14 08:23 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

3/19/2-14
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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19719157 - 03/19/14 03:12 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Heres my first harvy from this tub. I think i got a good amount. They where smaller then last time. Im thinking that was due to it being dryer then normal. Ill have dry weight after i get a scale and dry em out. Thick dense fruits.



Soaked for 30 minutes and am now waiting for a second flush. I think im going to y off the air pump so that it gets 50% less air and see if it is any better.

Any opinions on the jars i put up pics of?

Also my two mino monos and one tub are at day 9 today. Looking like there about 97%. not gonna be surprised if i get a contaim. Seems like if on day 10 it has a spot or two left its gonna contaim.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19726012 - 03/20/14 10:01 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

4 ounces 10.8 grams dry


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19726018 - 03/20/14 10:04 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Congratulatoins.  You just growed a quap. :thumbup:


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19744532 - 03/25/14 09:39 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

3/25/2014
Second flush is coming in. Take pics later, its not looking to good ha.

Also i recently put into fruiting a 66 tub and two mini tubs. The bigger one shows signs of a contaim. Yellowing circles. So im not thinking itll make it. the mini's look good.

Going to start agar tonight. Probably wont update for a few weeks so i can make some progress, been really busy with my mountaineering class and the weather is getting nice so ive been out riding my new Ape. going to Start putting some iso's together and start over and fresh and CLEAN:)


As for the air pump. I really dont know what to think. I mean i got 4 zips from MS and working on a second. It seems that it just is to much Dry air.
I think that there was good FAE but it was just dry FAE.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19749149 - 03/26/14 08:39 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

3/25
Second flush



Also i put together 4 tubs last night and have two mini tubs on the way. My agar is cooling off and will start some cultures when i get home today:)
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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19755751 - 03/27/14 02:36 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Just got my second flush. Will update with weight later tonight.

So far the mini's are looking good(day 3 of fruiting) I have 5 tubs that i just spawned to. 4 are like faht's tubs ( mix, save 2 qts for frost layer, then a casing layer) Just for the hell of it sense they will probably contaim anyways. Each jar i put in i made sure to smell twice or even 3 times while pouring out so maybe :shrug:
So if i get anything it will be a plus. If not, i expected it.

Gonna end this thread after these 5 tubs and start a new one following my Agar and iso's to fruiting.
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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19760086 - 03/28/14 01:41 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19760995 - 03/28/14 05:32 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Nice log dude... glad to see some more experiments with the tiger's pump tub :thumbup:


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: PirateSwazey]
    #19764077 - 03/29/14 12:57 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Nice log dude... glad to see some more experiments with the tiger's every newbie's first idea/pump tub :thumbup:




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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19765161 - 03/29/14 05:24 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

lol Franklin unchained !!

It wouldn't kill ya to pat em on the back every once in awhile would it Frankie :rofl:

Btw guise... I found the amurican bubbles:

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19766057 - 03/29/14 08:49 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19766072 - 03/29/14 08:55 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: cronicr]
    #19766081 - 03/29/14 08:58 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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It's true though, regardless of how well it works out :rofl:

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19818649 - 04/09/14 02:30 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: alex591955]
    #19818806 - 04/09/14 03:08 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

nice!!  ur pulling these flushes from the contaminated tub?


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19819051 - 04/09/14 03:57 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

No. It's from the only one so far that hasn't contaimed.


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Re: monotub pump auto air test. a+ albino and b+ [Re: popcorn900]
    #20252921 - 07/10/14 12:27 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

just the mush. this was about 3 months ago and have sense moved from where i lived.


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