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OrgoneConclusion
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Heaven
#19595202 - 02/20/14 03:01 PM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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As only humans have souls, we will be the only living Terrans there. No trees, flowers, puppies, butterflies or unicorns.
We will all be perfectly content and happy - even knowing that some friends and family are being tortured forever in Hell by an all-loving God.
When we get to Heaven, you will recognize your dead loved ones because they retain the same form as the day they died. For this reason, you should kill yourself at the height of physical beauty and prowess to seal in the flavor. It sort of sucks to be feeble and addle-brained for all eternity. Hard to join the bi-weekly beach volleyball group with a broken hip.
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Or maybe the Jews are right and all the Christians will burn forever. Or maybe the Vikings were correct and we will all be left to freeze in the vast halls of Freya's manor. Either way, no sense stressing about it.
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Sse
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"the promised land is a state of mind"
what about the part where jesus said something like "the kingdom of heaven is within"
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"Within us, we carry the world of no-birth and no-death. But we never touch it, because we live only with our notions." -Thich Nhat Hanh instant "Experience always goes beyond ideas"
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Deviate
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OrgoneConclusion said: As only humans have souls, we will be the only living Terrans there. No trees, flowers, puppies, butterflies or unicorns.
We will all be perfectly content and happy - even knowing that some friends and family are being tortured forever in Hell by an all-loving God.
When we get to Heaven, you will recognize your dead loved ones because they retain the same form as the day they died. For this reason, you should kill yourself at the height of physical beauty and prowess to seal in the flavor. It sort of sucks to be feeble and addle-brained for all eternity. Hard to join the bi-weekly beach volleyball group with a broken hip.
What is your motivation in posting this? What makes you an authority on heaven?
Edited by Deviate (02/20/14 09:21 PM)
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Deviate said:
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OrgoneConclusion said: As only humans have souls, we will be the only living Terrans there. No trees, flowers, puppies, butterflies or unicorns.
We will all be perfectly content and happy - even knowing that some friends and family are being tortured forever in Hell by an all-loving God.
When we get to Heaven, you will recognize your dead loved ones because they retain the same form as the day they died. For this reason, you should kill yourself at the height of physical beauty and prowess to seal in the flavor. It sort of sucks to be feeble and addle-brained for all eternity. Hard to join the bi-weekly beach volleyball group with a broken hip.
What is your motivation in posting this? What makes you an authority on heaven?
If you disagree, what makes YOU an authority on heaven?
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Deviate
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I didn't claim to be, nor does me questioning/disagreeing with someone else necessarily make that implication.
If your doctor tells you apples cause cancer, do you need to be a doctor yourself to question him?
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cez

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Deviate said:
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OrgoneConclusion said: As only humans have souls, we will be the only living Terrans there. No trees, flowers, puppies, butterflies or unicorns.
We will all be perfectly content and happy - even knowing that some friends and family are being tortured forever in Hell by an all-loving God.
When we get to Heaven, you will recognize your dead loved ones because they retain the same form as the day they died. For this reason, you should kill yourself at the height of physical beauty and prowess to seal in the flavor. It sort of sucks to be feeble and addle-brained for all eternity. Hard to join the bi-weekly beach volleyball group with a broken hip.
What is your motivation in posting this? What makes you an authority on heaven?
Idk his motivation but from my perspective it's an awesome post showcasing the absurdity of believing in the heaven most of us have been brainwashed to believe in.
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Deviate
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Re: Heaven [Re: cez]
#19597476 - 02/20/14 11:43 PM (10 years, 4 days ago) |
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Well that's quite sad, the post is as usual founded entirely on baseless assumptions.
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As only humans have souls, we will be the only living Terrans there. No trees, flowers, puppies, butterflies or unicorns.
Just looking through the first sentence, we can already see that he is not even referring to anything which resembles the heaven "most of us have been brainswashed to believe in". His premise is that the only beings in heaven, had prior earthly lives. Yet, the various heavens found in actual world religions are generally described as being populated by various angels, archangels, and other celestial beings who never had earthly lives, in addition to human souls. In other words, there is no reason there could not be butterflies in heaven regardless of whether they have souls. The breeding population of butterflies in heaven could simply exist independently of the breeding population on earth, just the same way that we can have people living in China and people living in the United States without needing to believe that all Chinese people are reincarnated Americans or vice versa.
The rest of his post is based on similar, mistaken assumptions and unimaginative thinking. The fact that you consider such arguments convincing, let alone awesome, is scary. I also find it odd that none of these questions had occurred to you before, considering you were supposedly brainwashed to believe this. Do you always rely on others to do your critical thinking for you?
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ShiVersblood
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Why humans and not, like, cats and dogs. Not fair.
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cez

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Deviate said: Well that's quite sad, the post is as usual founded entirely on baseless assumptions.
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As only humans have souls, we will be the only living Terrans there. No trees, flowers, puppies, butterflies or unicorns.
Just looking through the first sentence, we can already see that he is not even referring to anything which resembles the heaven "most of us have been brainswashed to believe in". His premise is that the only beings in heaven, had prior earthly lives. Yet, the various heavens found in actual world religions are generally described as being populated by various angels, archangels, and other celestial beings who never had earthly lives, in addition to human souls. In other words, there is no reason there could not be butterflies in heaven regardless of whether they have souls. The breeding population of butterflies in heaven could simply exist independently of the breeding population on earth, just the same way that we can have people living in China and people living in the United States without needing to believe that all Chinese people are reincarnated Americans or vice versa.
The rest of his post is based on similar, mistaken assumptions and unimaginative thinking. The fact that you consider such arguments convincing, let alone awesome, is scary. I also find it odd that none of these questions had occurred to you before, considering you were supposedly brainwashed to believe this. Do you always rely on others to do your critical thinking for you?
Don't be so butthurt brah.... I don't know anything regarding this matter.
I simply enjoyed the op. I enjoyed your response to my post too. 
Btw I don't consider any thinking related to this matter to be "critical" for me. Critical implies a sense of seriousness. There's nothing serious about daydreaming about an afterworld where I'm rewarded for all my goodness in this world.
I prefer to critically think on how to obtain heavenly goodness in this world through experience and material goodies.
Edited by cez (02/21/14 01:44 AM)
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Sse
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All dogs go to heaven
hopefully Cesar Milan gets there before I do
-------------------- "Springs of water welling from the fire" "Life may seem to flee in a moment, but when the mind is freed of the veil of ignorance, and illusion that comes between the mind and the truth, life and death are only opposite sides of the same coin - "water welling from the fire."
"Within us, we carry the world of no-birth and no-death. But we never touch it, because we live only with our notions." -Thich Nhat Hanh instant "Experience always goes beyond ideas"
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