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your brain on ASPARTAME
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i never eat that shit.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: ]
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I heard it fucks up your sperm count.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: recalcitrant]
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Yes it's true it also kills brain cells and gives men breasts.
Saccharin puts holes in your brain.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1960209 - 09/28/03 04:22 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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jesus, rumsfeld is fucking satan!
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: afoaf]
#1960418 - 09/28/03 05:25 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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The tests of sweet and low and other non-sugars are all flawed. If one were to preform the same tests but with brocalli, brocalli would be found to be a carcinogen.
Wow she speaks of 2 people with cancer, do you know have many people in american and the world get cancer, i would be susprised if those were the only 2 people with cancer she knew. I know many life long drinkers of diet coke and other soft drinks and nothing is wrong with them. Also how old is girl. Even if it was the aspartame she would be some rarity to get the cancer that fast.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: d33p]
#1960749 - 09/28/03 07:15 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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SURE MAN
whatever
Abdominal Pain Anxiety attacks arthritis asthma Asthmatic Reactions Bloating, Edema (Fluid Retention) Blood Sugar Control Problems (Hypoglycemia or Hyperglycemia) Brain Cancer (Pre-approval studies in animals) Breathing difficulties burning eyes or throat Burning Urination can't think straight Chest Pains chronic cough Chronic Fatigue Confusion Death Depression Diarrhea Dizziness Excessive Thirst or Hunger fatigue feel unreal flushing of face Hair Loss (Baldness) or Thinning of Hair Headaches/Migraines dizziness Hearing Loss Heart palpitations Hives (Urticaria) Hypertension (High Blood Pressure) Impotency and Sexual Problems inability to concentrate Infection Susceptibility Insomnia Irritability Itching Joint Pains laryngitis "like thinking in a fog" Marked Personality Changes Memory loss Menstrual Problems or Changes Migraines and Severe Headaches (Trigger or Cause From Chronic Intake) Muscle spasms Nausea or Vomiting Numbness or Tingling of Extremities Other Allergic-Like Reactions Panic Attacks Phobias poor memory Rapid Heart Beat Rashes Seizures and Convulsions Slurring of Speech Swallowing Pain Tachycardia Tremors Tinnitus Vertigo Vision Loss Weight gain!!!!!!!!(diet NOTHING!!!!!!)
Aspartame Disease Mimics Symptoms or Worsens the Following Diseases Fibromyalgia Arthritis Multiple Sclerosis (MS) Parkinson's Disease Lupus Multiple Chemical Sensitivities (MCS) Diabetes and Diabetic Complications Epilepsy Alzheimer's Disease Birth Defects Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Lymphoma Lyme Disease Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD) Panic Disorder Depression and other Psychological Disorders
How it happens: Methanol, from aspartame, is released in the small intestine when the methyl group of aspartame encounters the enzyme chymotrypsin (Stegink 1984, page 143). Free methanol begins to form in liquid aspartame-containing products at temperatures above 86 degrees F.. also within the human body. The methanol is then converted to formaldehyde. The formaldehyde converts to formic acid, ant sting poison. Toxic formic acid is used as an activator to strip epoxy and urethane coatings. Imagine what it does to your tissues! Phenylalanine and aspartic acid, 90% of aspartame, are amino acids normally used in synthesis of protoplasm when supplied by the foods we eat. But when unaccompanied by other amino acids we use [there are 20], they are neurotoxic. That is why a warning for Phenylketonurics is found on EQUAL and other aspartame products. Phenylketenurics are 2% of the population with extreme sensitivity to this chemical unless it's present in food. It gets you too, causing brain disorders and birth defects! Finally, the phenyalanine breaks down into DKP, a brain tumor agent. In other words: Aspartame converts to dangerous byproducts that have no natural countermeasures. A dieter's empty stomach accelerates these conversions and amplifies the damage. Components of aspartame go straight to the brain, damage that causes headaches, mental confusion, seizures and faulty balance. Lab rats and other test animals died of brain tumors.
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Right. You believe all that like it was gospel, but if someone told you marijuana did all this would you believe them?
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A lot of what's being said about aspartame is really exagerrated. There are some bullshit myths that are being spread around by people who don't really know anything about doing proper research, however...
There are studies that indicate that aspartame may lead to brain cancer, plus there are some people who suffer from a rare seizure condition which aspartame can trigger. There may even be far worse side effects, and there have definately been measures taken by large corporations to try to discredit or supress perfectly valid studies.
Personally, I avoid it because it tastes like shit, but it certainly looks like there hasn't been enough research done into its safety.
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politics, activism, or law?
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: ]
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politics in that the safety of the people is endangered by corporations making/keeping a dangerous substance on the market.
activism/law in that that chick wants to get us together and shut down Sweet and Low Inc.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: recalcitrant]
#1961382 - 09/28/03 10:23 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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you know... it can't hurt you if you don't eat it.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: ]
#1961443 - 09/28/03 10:46 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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"A lot of what's being said about aspartame is really exagerrated. There are some bullshit myths that are being spread around by people who don't really know anything about doing proper research"
......Not Just Another Scare: Toxin Additives in Your Food and Drink
Russell L. Blaylock, M.D.
There are a growing number of clinicians and basic scientists who are convinced that excitotoxins play a critical role in the development of several neurological disorders, including migraines, seizures, infections, abnormal neural development, certain endocrine disorders, specific types of obesity, and especially the neurodegenerative diseases; a group of diseases which includes: ALS, Parkinson?s disease, Alzheimer?s disease, Huntington?s disease, and olivopontocerebellar degeneration.
An enormous amount of both clinical and experimental evidence has accumulated over the past decade supporting this basic premise. Yet, the FDA still refuses to recognize the immediate and long term danger to the public caused by the practice of allowing various excitotoxins to be added to the food supply, such as MSG, hydrolyzed vegetable protein, and aspartame. The amount of these neurotoxins added to our food has increased enormously since their first introduction. For example, since 1948 the amount of MSG added to foods has doubled every decade. By 1972, 262,000 metric tons were being added to foods. Over 800 million pounds of aspartame have been consumed in various products since it was first approved. Ironically, these food additives have nothing to do with preserving food or protecting its integrity. They are all used to alter the taste of food. MSG, hydrolyzed vegetable protein, and natural flavoring are used to enhance the taste of food so that it tastes better. Aspartame is an artificial sweetener.
The public must be made aware that these toxins (excitotoxins) are not present in just a few foods but rather in almost all processed foods. In many cases they are being added in disguised forms, such as natural flavoring, spices, yeast extract, textured protein, soy protein extract, etc. Experimentally, we know that when subtoxic (below toxic levels) of excitotoxins are given to animals, they experience full toxicity. Also, liquid forms of excitotoxins, as occurs in soups, gravies and diet soft drinks are more toxic than that added to solid foods. This is because they are more rapidly absorbed and reach higher blood levels.
So, what is an excitotoxin? These are substances, usually amino acids, that react with specialized receptors in the brain in such a way as to lead to destruction of certain types of brain cells. Glutamate is one of the more commonly known excitotoxins. MSG is the sodium salt of glutamate. This amino acid is a normal neurotransmitter in the brain. In fact, it is the most commonly used neurotransmitter by the brain. Defenders of MSG and aspartame use, usually say: How could a substance that is used normally by the brain cause harm? This is because, glutamate, as a neurotransmitter, is used by the brain only in very , very small concentrations - no more than 8 to 12ug. When the concentration of this transmitter rises above this level the neurons begin to fire abnormally. At higher concentrations, the cells undergo a specialized process of cell death.
The brain has several elaborate mechanisms to prevent accumulation of MSG in the brain. First is the blood-brain barrier, a system that impedes glutamate entry into the area of the brain cells. But, this system was intended to protect the brain against occasional elevation of glutamate of a moderate degree, as would be found with un-processed food consumption. It was not designed to eliminate very high concentrations of glutamate and aspartate consumed daily, several times a day, as we see in modern society. Several experiments have demonstrated that under such conditions, glutamate can by-pass this barrier system and enter the brain in toxic concentrations. In fact, there is some evidence that it may actually be concentrated within the brain with prolonged exposures.
There are also several conditions under which the blood-brain barrier (BBB) is made incompetent. Before birth, the BBB is incompetent and will allow glutamate to enter the brain. It may be that for a considerable period after birth the barrier may also incompletely developed as well. Hypertension, diabetes, head trauma, brain tumors, strokes, certain drugs, Alzheimer?s disease, vitamin and mineral deficiencies, severe hypoglycemia, heat stroke, electromagnetic radiation, ionizing radiation, multiple sclerosis, and certain infections can all cause the barrier to fail. In fact, as we age the barrier system becomes more porous, allowing excitotoxins in the blood to enter the brain. So there are numerous instances under which excitotoxin food additives can enter and damage the brain. Finally, recent experiments have shown that glutamate and aspartate (as in aspartame) can open the barrier itself. Another system used to protect the brain against environmental excitotoxins, is a system within the brain that binds the glutamate molecule (called the glutamate transporter) and transports it to a special storage cell (the astrocyte) within a fraction of a second after it is used as a neurotransmitter. This system can be overwhelmed by high intakes of MSG, aspartame and other food excitotoxins. It is also known that excitotoxins themselves can cause the generation of numerous amounts of free radicals and that during the process of lipid peroxidation (oxidation of membrane fats) a substance is produced called 4-hydroxynonenal. This chemical inhibits the glutamate transporter, thus allowing glutamate to accumulate in the brain.
Excitotoxins destroy neurons partly by stimulating the generation of large numbers of free radicals. Recently, it has been shown that this occurs not only within the brain, but also within other tissues and organs as well (liver and red blood cells). This could, from all available evidence, increase all sorts of degenerative diseases such as arthritis, coronary heart disease, and atherosclerosis,as well as induce cancer formation. Certainly, we would not want to do something that would significantly increase free radical production in the body. It is known that all of the neurodegenerative disease, such as Parkinson?s disease, Alzheimer?s disease, and ALS, are associated with free radical injury of the nervous system.
It should also be appreciated that the effects of excitotoxin food additives generally is not dramatic. Some individuals may be especially sensitive and develop severe symptoms and even sudden death from cardiac irritability, but in most instances the effects are subtle and develop over a long period of time. While MSG and aspartame are probably not causes of the neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer?s dementia, Parkinson?s disease, or amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, they may well precipitate these disorders and certainly worsen their effects. It may be that many people with a propensity for developing one of these diseases would never develop a full blown disorder had it not been for their exposure to high levels of food borne excitotoxin additives. Some may have had a very mild form of the disease had it not been for the exposure.
In July, 1995 the Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology (FASEB) conducted a definitive study for the FDA on the question of safety of MSG. The FDA wrote a very deceptive summery of the report in which they implied that, except possibly for asthma patients, MSG was found to be safe by the FASEB reviewers. But, in fact, that is not what the report said at all. I summarized, in detail, my criticism of this widely reported FDA deception in the revised paperback edition of my book, Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills, by analyzing exactly what the report said, and failed to say. For example, it never said that MSG did not aggravate neurodegenerative diseases. What they said was, there were no studies indicating such a link. Specifically, that no one has conducted any studies, positive or negative, to see if there is a link. In other words it has not been looked at. A vital difference.
Unfortunately, for the consumer, the corporate food processors not only continue to add MSG to our foods but they have gone to great links to disguise these harmful additives. For example, they use such names a hydrolyzed vegetable protein, vegetable protein, hydrolyzed plant protein, caseinate, yeast extract, and natural flavoring. We know experimentally, as stated, when these excitotoxin taste enhancers are added together they become much more toxic. In fact, excitotoxins in subtoxic concentrations can be fully toxic to specialized brain cells when used in combination. Frequently, I see processed foods on supermarket shelves, especially frozen of diet food, that contain two, three or even four types of excitotoxins. We also know that excitotoxins in a liquid form are much more toxic than solid forms because they are rapidly absorbed and attain high concentration in the blood. This means that many of the commercial soups, sauces, and gravies containing MSG are very dangerous to nervous system health, and should especially be avoided by those either having one of the above mentioned disorders, or are at a high risk of developing one of them. They should also be avoided by cancer patients and those at high risk for cancer.
In the case of ALS, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, we know that consumption of red meats and especially MSG itself, can significantly elevate blood glutamate, much higher than is seen in the normal population. Similar studies, as far as I am aware, have not been conducted in patients with Alzheimer?s disease or Parkinson?s disease. But, as a general rule I would certainly suggest that person?s with either of these diseases avoid MSG containing foods as well as red meats, cheeses, and pureed tomatoes, all of which are known to have high levels of glutamate.
It must be remembered that it is the glutamate molecule that is toxic in MSG (monosodium glutamate). Glutamate is a naturally occurring amino acid found in varying concentrations in many foods. Defenders of MSG safety allude to this fact in their defense. But, it is free glutamate that is the culprit. Bound glutamate, found naturally in foods, is less dangerous because it is slowly broken down and absorbed by the gut, so that it can be utilized by the tissues, especially muscle, before toxic concentrations can build up. Therefore, a whole tomato is safer than a pureed tomato. The only exception to this, based on present knowledge, is in the case of ALS. Also, in the case of tomatoes, the plant contains several powerful antioxidants known to block glutamate toxicity.
Hydrolyzed vegetable protein should not be confused with hydrolyzed vegetable oil. The oil does not contain appreciable concentration of glutamate, it is an oil. Hydrolyzed vegetable protein is made by a chemical process that breaks down the vegetable?s protein structure to purposefully free the glutamate, as well as aspartate, another excitotoxin. This brown powdery substance is used to enhance the flavor of foods, especially meat dishes, soups, and sauces. Despite the fact that some health food manufacturers have attempted to sell the idea that this flavor enhancer is " all natural" and "safe" because it is made from vegetables, it is not. It is the same substance added to processed foods. Experimentally, one can produce the same brain lesions using hydrolyzed vegetable protein as by using MSG or aspartate.
A growing list of excitotoxins is being discovered, including several that are found naturally. For example, L- cysteine is a very powerful excitotoxin. Recently, it has been added to certain bread dough and is sold in health food stores as a supplement. Homocysteine, a metabolic derivative, is also an excitotoxin. Interestingly, elevated blood levels of homocysteine has recently been shown to be a major, if not the major, indicator of cardiovascular disease and stroke. Equally interesting, is the finding that elevated levels have also been implicated in neurodevelopmental disorders, especially anencephaly and spinal dysraphism (neural tube defects). It is thought that this is the protective mechanism of action of the prenatal vitamins B12, B6, and folate when used in combination. It remains to be seen if the toxic effect is excitatory or by some other mechanism. If it is excitatory, then unborn infants would be endangered as well by glutamate, aspartate (part of the aspartame molecule), and the other excitotoxins. Recently, several studies have been done in which it was found that all Alzheimer?s patients examined had elevated levels of homocysteine.
Recent studies have shown that persons affected by Alzheimer?s disease also have widespread destruction of their retinal ganglion cells. Interestingly, this is the area found to be affected when Lucas and Newhouse first discovered the excitotoxicity of MSG. While this does not prove that dietary glutamate and other excitotoxins cause or aggravate Alzheimer?s disease, it makes one very suspicious. One could argue a common intrinsic etiology for central nervous system neuronal damage and retinal ganglion cell damage, but these findings are disconcerting enough to warrant further investigations.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: ]
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I use splenda myself, and I don't care if it makes rattlesnakes crosseyed in the lab.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1961466 - 09/28/03 10:52 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I sprinkle nutrasweet on my donuts before washing them down with heavy cream.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: Autonomous]
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well you guys must not care about brain function and thats your choice , but this shit SHOULD not be legal in MY COUNTRY at least
I dont mean to sound ike a dick, but I think anyone that KNOWS about aspartame and still uses it is either stupid, or really sad ,and doesnt care about himself
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: Autonomous]
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Hey Kari looks like your a fatty and you have fat in the brain.
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I went to the hospital to see her and, how ironic, the nurse brought her a Diet Coke. I have tried to warn her of my findings about diet soda, but she won't stop drinking it. I think she is addicted.
That would be from the caffeine you heifer.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: daussaulit]
#1961489 - 09/28/03 10:59 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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how so????????
people throw the word around all the time, how do you know she was being literal
anyway if you want to get rid of fat or other stuff in the brain(like the brain itself!!!!!!) just start chuging !!!!
aspartame WAS part of NERVE GAS and now its sweetner !
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how about everyone just start watching what they eat, control their portions, eat slower, workout more, and then you can treat yourself to a soda everyday without worrying about getting pudgy.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: daussaulit]
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its not pudgy people have to worry about with this shit
Pilots dont drink it , WHY
cause they know about it , this stuff is the worst thing out there , people can talk about eating or not eating meat
but this shit is poison !!!!!!!
only a moron (or a child) would willing put it in their body(knowing what it does)
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Marijuana is worse for you than asparatame.
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its not pudgy people have to worry about with this shit Pilots dont drink it , WHY
cause they know about it , this stuff is the worst thing out there , people can talk about eating or not eating meat
have proof?
I love how that apartame.com does no documented scientific or medical expertise. Also that girl is smiling when that picture of her "tumor" was taken. You know, I could buy a domain myself and fill it with propaganda and whatnot. It is the internet.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: daussaulit]
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"Marijuana is worse for you than asparatame. "
have you lost your fucking mind!!!!!!!!!!!
"I love how that apartame.com does no documented scientific or medical expertise."
first thats not true , second
just type aspartame and read away
I can belive you guys are "trying" so hard to act like this shit is safe!
cannabis is worse???? i doubt it !
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Formaldehyde Poisoning from Aspartame
Return To Aspartame ( Nutrasweet ) Toxicity Information Center Main Page (case histories of aspartame poisoning, scientific docs, statements from experts, healthier sweeteners)
In 1997 there was an increase in aspartame users reporting severe toxicity reactions and damage such as seizures, eye damage and vision loss, confusion, severe migraines, tremors, depression, anxiety attacks, insomnia, etc. In the same years, Ralph Walton, MD, Chairman, The Center for Behavioral Medicine showed that the only studies which didn't find problems with aspartame where those funded by the manufacturer (Monsanto). Given the agreement amongst independent scientists about the toxicity of aspartame, the only question was whether the formaldehyde exposure from aspartame caused the toxicity. That question has now been largely answered because of research in the late 1990s.
The following facts shown by recent scientific research:
Aspartame (nutrasweet) breaks down into methanol (wood alcohol).
Methanol quickly converts to formadehyde in the body.
Formaldehyde causes gradual and eventually severe damage to the neurological system, immune system and causes permanent genetic damage at extremely low doses.
Methanol from alcoholic beverages and from fruit and juices does not convert to formaldehyde and cause damage because there are protective chemicals in these traditionally ingested beverages.
The most recent independent research in Europe demonstrates that ingestion of small amounts of aspartame leads to the accumulation of significant levels of formaldehyde (bound to protein) in organs (liver, kidneys, brain) and tissues.
Excitotoxic amino acids such as the one which is immediately released from aspartame likely increases the damage caused by the formaldehyde.
Readers are urged to followup by printing and reading the extensive and heavily-referenced discussion related to aspartame and methanol/formaldehyde poisoning (suitable for scientists and laypersons) at: http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/abuse/. This document details the research showing formaldehyde toxicity from aspartame and demonstrates the techniques the manufacturer used to help hide these facts. Finally, an updated discussion of formaldehyde dosage from aspartame has been added to answer questions raised by what appears to be a manufacturer public relations campaign. Please read this document only after reading the first methanol/formaldehyde document linked to above
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Other Hazards ------------- The following is a selection of other hazards from long-term use of aspartame. Once these effects are seen clinically, the internal damage has often been done. Removing aspartame from the diet may clear up some of the symptoms but the damage from the breakdown products such as methanol may be permanent.
Seizures and convulsions, arthritic and joint pain, chronic fatigue, depression, memory loss, vision damage and loss, tingling in the extremities, slurring of speech, irritability, severe anxiety attacks, menstrual problems, blood sugar control problems, symptoms similar to multiple sclerosis, worsening of fibromyalgia, parkinson's tremors, etc., etc.
Internet PR ----------- It appears that the PR firms for the chemical company "selling" aspartame (i.e., slowing poisoning people), Monsanto Chemical Company are desparate to rescue their junky product despite the growing evidence of its dangers. On the Internet, there are many nonsensical and scientifically indefensible posts by persons who are only interested in confusing the issue and creating havoc.
For example, one person recently claimed that orange juice releases 400 times more methanol than aspartame upon ingestion. The scientific facts are that aspartame has much more methanol than orange juice. (Many store-bought orange juices have 10-30 times less methanol.) In addition, the methanol from aspartame is converted to the extremely toxic formaldehyde and formic acid in the body, while protective factors in the orange juice may prevent this conversion to formaldehyde and formic acid. An avid aspartame consumer will be getting the equivalent amount of methanol as a person working part-time and inhaling methanol fumes in a methanol-laden chemical plant. Other aspartame breakdown products may potentiate the methanol/formaldehyde toxicity.
Another standard PR technique is the following:
1. Hire people to join Internet groups and become a "regular" poster. At least one report of recruitment has been published recently. Such a recruited individual can have almost any email address from a company name to a university email address.
2. When honest, legitimate concerns about a toxic product are posted, respond with a large number of angry, "knee-jerk" responses attempting to paint the persons posting as "radicals" when they are simply one of many, many concerned citizens. These large numbers of postings will flood the group(s) and get the legitimate participants angry.
3. There may be many postings about people who have had "no problems" with the toxic product even though, in the case of aspartame it has been on the market and used in significant amounts for such a short period of time. There may be postings trying to claim that their freedoms are being taken away even though by allowing the sale such a toxic product when there are many healthier alternatives, the FDA is clearly violating their own safety statutes. Most of these posts are probably legitimate, but there is not way to know for certain.
4. Some people and possibly some PR persons will post demanding that the "concerned citizens" (although they will not use that term) stop posting to the group. The reality almost always is that there were relatively few posts by concerned citizens and endless "knee-jerk" posts.
5. Finally, please be aware that posts from the International Food Information Council (IFIC), the PR organization for junk food companies (in the guise of an independent "nutrition" organization) and the American Dietetic Association (which received $75,000 from Monsanto and an offer to help write their "fact" sheets) often put inaccurate PR on the Internet.
This is simply a modification for the Internet of very common unethical PR techniques that are sometimes applied by companies trying to rescue the image of a toxic product like aspartame. A new, extremely well-researched and well-documented book about these techniques (and a "must-read") is:
Toxic Sludge is Good For You! (Lies, Damn Lies and the Public Relations Industry) by John Stauber and Sheldon Rampton Common Courage Press, Monroe, Maine (USA), c1995 ISBN 1-56751-061-2 or ISBN 1-56751-060-4 (pbk.)
This book will help you understand what tricks to expect from Monsanto as scientists and the general population recognizes the dangers of aspartame. It is a real eye-opener and I highly recommend it.
Alternatives ------------ Please do not switch from one dangerous artificial sweetener (aspartame) to another (e.g., acesulfame-k). I have a resource list of "healthier" sweeteners and sources on my web page. Please use these more natural, time-tested sweeteners to promote long-term health as opposed to destroying it.
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Stevia causes constipation in Mung beans.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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you sound like a fucking drug warrior.
let people eat nutrasweet if they want. it's no business of yours.
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www.aspartame.com ? What a bunch of retarded hysteria. To line up the inventer of a sweetener with adolf hitler and screaming stuff like molecular auschwitz. What a fucking retarded site. On a site with a high degree of hysteria like that no objectivity can ever be found. KKK mentality.
Now some facts: Methanol/Formaldehyde toxicity in the aspartame story. HOG-WASH. Utter, utter bullshit of the unresearched kind. Does methanol convert into formaldehyde? Yup. Is formaldehyde carcinogenic? Yup. Does Aspartame cleave off methanol which forms formaldehyde making Aspartame a carcinogen? Yup.
But it is a matter of DEGREE. A whole bunch of metabolic processes give rise to methanol/formaldehyde/formic acid. Currently there are hundreds of milligrams of methanol present or processed in your body. Cleaved off of things like l-Methionine, N- methyl groups etc etc etc. Does this give people cancer? Sure! But the question is HOW MUCH THE BALANCE IS THROWN OFF-WHACK and this corresponds directly to the amounts introduced. When it comes to the hundreds of miligrams of methanol your body puts up with each day (mostly self-liberated by metabolism) the few mgs of off Aspartame are hardly going to matter. They are of course going to give rise to some extra cases of cancer, but these will be few and far between.
Nitrate turns into nitrite. Nitrite can give you cancer. Saliva is full of nitrate and thus it kills. So when your boyfriend asks "Spit or swallow?" you'd better give that some serious thought 
Let me tell you the Potassium story. There is this stuff called potassium out there, which is basically a metal you can cut with a knife and which explodes when thrown into water. It forms all sorts of salts that fortunately do not explode. But what is the case: a substantial amount of our Potassium is the isotope Potassium 40. (So it HAS an extra neutron in its core.. geez we can't all be perfect!)
Potassium 40 happens to be RADIOACTIVE, meaning every once in a while a K40 atom sez "pop" and explodes as violently as an atom bomb. It liberates x-rays and hard gamma radiation (I can see right through you!) and kicks out that unwanted neutron like I do a Jehova's Witness. If you consider that neutron gets a kick that's over three million times more powerful than TNT can kick it you can have some idea of the atomic forces and loathing of Jehova's Witnesses involved here. 
That neutron cannonball and the x-rays and the gamma shoot right through you. Should one hit a strand of your DNA this gets blasted apart. This cell likely dies, but one in so many cells that're hit the wrong way become the onset of cancer.
So: potassium contains radioactive potassium 40 (0.012% to get anal) which gives us cancer because of door-to-door religion or something to that effect. Good then, lets get rid of that nasty stuff (anything with "ass" in it can't be good) and we're in the clear, right?
Er.. no. Our bodies need a couple of grams of Potassium for all sorts of uplifting functions, like being able to pee for instance. We get our fix of potassium by eating veggies. (...) uh-huh: vegetarians DO want you to eat more radioactives, chernobyl indeed!
Aside from that potassium is everywhere! The stone and concrete of your house surround and bombard you with radioactivity. If you take one ton (1.000kg) of soil there's about 3.1 grams of pure, radioactive Potassium 40 in there (1/8 ounce, or about the weight of a lump of sugar, since this WAS all about sweeteners) I never heard Greenpeace complain about.
There is a but, however. If you take ten K-40 atoms and watch them for some time you'll find that it takes about one-and-a-quarter billion years for five of them to pop. This does mean that RIGHT NOW there is more K-40 nuclear explosive force blasting on the good earth than all nukes that have ever exploded put together, but because it's all diluted throughout the planet it really isn't a very big deal for Life in general. People DO die from Potassium 40 radioactivity which is a bad thing, but its just a fraction of all cancers that're out there.
Well.. before we completely lose track of things: There are hundreds of milligrams of methanol in your body right now, with a good day's eating you ingest thousands of milligrams of phenylalanine and aspartic acid and in the breakdown of proteins hundreds of milligrams of the phenylalanine-aspartic acid couple are formed before they are desintegrated. And if you see all this in the light of a dozen mgs of this-and a dozen of that you ingest with your daily ration of Aspartame it all strikes you as blown as much out of proportion as that hysterical website's makeup. Molecular Auschwitz indeed! Would anyone call an apple a nuclear Heroshima because it in fact does contain and emit radioactivity? It's nothing short of mocking the victims of the worst warcrimes known to man.
The makers of that website need to get a life. I lost my mother too (july 4) which was quite devastating. I lost her to a surgical intervention gone sour. Do I put up a website with a picture of dr. mengele next to that of the surgeon and make clever banners like "DOCTORS KILL"? Like the guy(s) of www.aspartame.com I am in mourning but I do not throw rationality overboard and go screaming nazi-this-nazi-that.
The molecule of aspartame has a reasonably safe "feel" metabolically, especially in the light of the structures of a lot of other sweeteners and the pounds upon pounds of refined white sugar they replace. (talk about a killer there! Refined white sugar is the # 1 killer according to a lot of studies... Heart disease, diabetes, obesity, crumbling teeth and nagging candy-crazed children) As to the aspartame complaints list: I think that there are about 5 Shroomery members out there that currently do not suffer one or more of these ailments.
Methanol? Trivial. Phenylalanine? Trivial. Aspartic Acid? Trivial. Aspartic Phenylalanine? Trivial. There is one thing that may be harmful and that is the WHOLE molecule of Aspartame. This needs be studied and it has been studied for years. It is unlikely to be another Thalidomide, Butter Yellow or DES.
You can safely assume either its held (relatively) harmless by objective studies or the word is not in yet, as America isn't the Land of the Free but the Home of the Multi-Million-Dollar-Lawsuit.
Unlike with Potassium we actually have a choice to avoid Aspartame, just like we can avoid smoking or drinking. Its just that if we say No to Aspartame but Yes to "sweet" we are opening the doors to white sugar diabetes, lactose intolerance, the cyclamate/saccharin cancer debate and hosts of other stuff we aren't even aware of yet.
Want something sweet? Pick your poison!
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you post all this information, but you don't provide any links.
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Aspartame is made from amino acids, the building blocks of protein. It is about 200 times sweeter than sugar. It is the most popular sugar substitute. It is used in more than 150 different types of products. Aspartame is available as a packaged sweetener called Equal or is added to foods under the name NutraSweet. The FDA approved aspartame in 1981. Since that time, there have been many claims that aspartame use is linked with cancer and other diseases. In fact, this is one of the most studied sweeteners of all times. The FDA has conducted 26 different studies! But the FDA stands by its approval of this substance as "safe for human consumption."
All foods or drinks that contain aspartame must have a warning that states that the product contains phenylalanine. This is for people that have a rare genetic order called phenylketonuria, also known as PKU. All babies are tested for this shortly after birth. People with PKU cannot break down phenylalanine in the body, which can be toxic. So people who have PKU must be careful about eating foods that contain aspartame.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: daussaulit]
#1962758 - 09/29/03 01:01 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for that, I didn't have a clue what you were all talking about. Is it only used in the US?
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: Edame]
#1962765 - 09/29/03 01:03 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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what do they put in diet soda over there?
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: ]
#1962796 - 09/29/03 01:15 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't drink carbonated drinks so I wasn't too sure, but I found a Guardian article from '99 that seems to indicate that Diet Coke has it. I decided to take a look for the King's College study into aspartame that was mentioned in the article, and found this. If I actually drank that swill, I don't think I'd be too worried.
-------------------- The above is an extract from my fictional novel, "The random postings of Edame".
In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience. And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him. "Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: Edame]
#1962818 - 09/29/03 01:24 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah, it's mostly just in soda, which i don't really drink anyway either.
i don't think this stuff's all that bad for you... it just doesn't taste right.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: ]
#1962829 - 09/29/03 01:29 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Splenda is the best tasting artificial sweetner I've ever had.
It doesn't have any aftertaste that I can detect. You could make pixie stix out of it.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1963066 - 09/29/03 02:50 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I dont care , its not safe
"In summary, taken together with data from the literature, it is concluded that Aspartame and the breakdown products studied is not carcinogenic. "
well what about the other things it does !????
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you want a link huh
well how about this one
http://www.dorway.com/doctors.html
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I heard from a science proffessor that aspartame breaks down into its components at like 80 degrees, so by the time its in your stomach its already been converted into formaldehyde and rubbing alcohol.
I dont know if thats true or not, but the reason that I dont drink it is because it tastes like shit.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: DoctorJ]
#1963300 - 09/29/03 04:01 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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How come my hot coffee still tastes sweet? Maybe that's 80 degrees celsius?
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: Autonomous]
#1963413 - 09/29/03 04:45 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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how come shit, heated up still tastes like shit
its shit
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Psilocybeingzz said: you want a link huh well how about this one http://www.dorway.com/doctors.html
You know, the multi-colored coding of the text makes it look real professional. This site looks just as fake as that aspartame.com. So what is aspartame is bad for you, so is nearly everything else without moderation. Just because your terrible hooked and drink 6 liters of diet softdrink everyday doesn't justify that it causes illnesses. Just like saccharin, the claim that it caused cancer in lab animals, was just a big oversight. Unless you drink 1000 cans of Tab a day(which is a little less of equivalent dosage given to the lab animals, your not at risk. http://www.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/06/26/ask.aspartame/index.html
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the Food and Drug Administration says it is completely safe at "normal intake levels."
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: daussaulit]
#1963828 - 09/29/03 07:16 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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unless we're talking about banning aspartame, i don't see how this is politics, activism, or law.
if we are talking about that, there are some fools among us.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: ]
#1964661 - 09/29/03 11:52 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just thought I would post how bad aspartame is
and then some of you decided you are the ASPARTAAME cheetleaders!
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"I just thought I would post how bad aspartame is
and then some of you decided you are the ASPARTAAME cheetleaders! "
That made me laugh pretty hard.
There is evidence that aspartame is unsafe, but it's not very concrete. It might not be that bad for you. Do you see people getting brain tumours or having violent seizures left and right? Because a hell of a lot of people are drinking diet soda, and the majority seem to be able to get away without a scratch.
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The main reason not to use Aspartame is that splens\da is better.
Too bad they don't use it in diet drinks yet. I wonder why that is.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: Asante]
#1965260 - 09/30/03 06:09 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Can somebody pa-lease dissect and reject or otherwise take a dump over my earlier post?  I feel ignored!
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: d33p]
#1965307 - 09/30/03 07:35 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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My grandmother died of brain cancer and was a clean living woman.
But she drank diet pop her whole life.
It seems like a possibility to me.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: Phluck]
#1965310 - 09/30/03 07:37 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Phluck said: but it certainly looks like there hasn't been enough research done into its safety.
That is why I cannot understand why anyone would drink it.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: ]
#1965403 - 09/30/03 08:28 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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mushmaster writes:
unless we're talking about banning aspartame, i don't see how this is politics, activism, or law.
Me neither.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: d33p]
#16562424 - 07/20/12 11:09 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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d33p said: The tests of sweet and low and other non-sugars are all flawed. If one were to preform the same tests but with brocalli, brocalli would be found to be a carcinogen.
Wow she speaks of 2 people with cancer, do you know have many people in american and the world get cancer, i would be susprised if those were the only 2 people with cancer she knew. I know many life long drinkers of diet coke and other soft drinks and nothing is wrong with them. Also how old is girl. Even if it was the aspartame she would be some rarity to get the cancer that f ast.
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Exactly the very air we BREATHE is cancerous drink ur soda
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Wow that is one old ass thread. Artificial sweeteners are gross though.
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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: psi]
#16562520 - 07/20/12 11:25 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wiccan wins...
Like always
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