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your brain on ASPARTAME
    #1959828 - 09/28/03 04:05 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #1959848 - 09/28/03 04:15 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

i never eat that shit.


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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: ]
    #1959995 - 09/28/03 05:14 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I heard it fucks up your sperm count.


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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: recalcitrant]
    #1960004 - 09/28/03 05:17 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Yes it's true it also kills brain cells and gives men breasts.

Saccharin puts holes in your brain.


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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1960209 - 09/28/03 06:22 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

jesus, rumsfeld is fucking satan!


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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: afoaf]
    #1960418 - 09/28/03 07:25 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

The tests of sweet and low and other non-sugars are all flawed. If one were to preform the same tests but with brocalli, brocalli would be found to be a carcinogen.

Wow she speaks of 2 people with cancer, do you know have many people in american and the world get cancer, i would be susprised if those were the only 2 people with cancer she knew. I know many life long drinkers of diet coke and other soft drinks and nothing is wrong with them. Also how old is girl. Even if it was the aspartame she would be some rarity to get the cancer that fast.


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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: d33p]
    #1960749 - 09/28/03 09:15 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

SURE MAN

whatever


Abdominal Pain
Anxiety attacks
arthritis
asthma
Asthmatic Reactions
Bloating, Edema (Fluid Retention)
Blood Sugar Control Problems (Hypoglycemia or Hyperglycemia)
Brain Cancer (Pre-approval studies in animals)
Breathing difficulties
burning eyes or throat
Burning Urination
can't think straight
Chest Pains
chronic cough
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Death
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Slurring of Speech
Swallowing Pain
Tachycardia
Tremors
Tinnitus
Vertigo
Vision Loss
Weight gain!!!!!!!!(diet NOTHING!!!!!!)


Aspartame Disease Mimics Symptoms or Worsens the Following Diseases
Fibromyalgia
Arthritis
Multiple Sclerosis (MS)
Parkinson's Disease
Lupus
Multiple Chemical Sensitivities (MCS)
Diabetes and Diabetic Complications
Epilepsy
Alzheimer's Disease
Birth Defects
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Lymphoma
Lyme Disease
Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD)
Panic Disorder
Depression and other Psychological Disorders


How it happens:
Methanol, from aspartame, is released in the small intestine when the methyl group of aspartame encounters the enzyme chymotrypsin (Stegink 1984, page 143). Free methanol begins to form in liquid aspartame-containing products at temperatures above 86 degrees F.. also within the human body.
The methanol is then converted to formaldehyde. The formaldehyde converts to formic acid, ant sting poison. Toxic formic acid is used as an activator to strip epoxy and urethane coatings. Imagine what it does to your tissues!
Phenylalanine and aspartic acid, 90% of aspartame, are amino acids normally used in synthesis of protoplasm when supplied by the foods we eat. But when unaccompanied by other amino acids we use [there are 20], they are neurotoxic.
That is why a warning for Phenylketonurics is found on EQUAL and other aspartame products. Phenylketenurics are 2% of the population with extreme sensitivity to this chemical unless it's present in food. It gets you too, causing brain disorders and birth defects! Finally, the phenyalanine breaks down into DKP, a brain tumor agent.
In other words: Aspartame converts to dangerous byproducts that have no natural countermeasures. A dieter's empty stomach accelerates these conversions and amplifies the damage. Components of aspartame go straight to the brain, damage that causes headaches, mental confusion, seizures and faulty balance. Lab rats and other test animals died of brain tumors.


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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #1960824 - 09/28/03 09:38 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Right. You believe all that like it was gospel, but if someone told you marijuana did all this would you believe them?


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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #1961247 - 09/28/03 11:45 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

A lot of what's being said about aspartame is really exagerrated. There are some bullshit myths that are being spread around by people who don't really know anything about doing proper research, however...

There are studies that indicate that aspartame may lead to brain cancer, plus there are some people who suffer from a rare seizure condition which aspartame can trigger. There may even be far worse side effects, and there have definately been measures taken by large corporations to try to discredit or supress perfectly valid studies.

Personally, I avoid it because it tastes like shit, but it certainly looks like there hasn't been enough research done into its safety.


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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #1961264 - 09/28/03 11:48 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

politics, activism, or law?


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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: ]
    #1961366 - 09/29/03 12:17 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

politics in that the safety of the people is endangered by corporations making/keeping a dangerous substance on the market.

activism/law in that that chick wants to get us together and shut down Sweet and Low Inc.



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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: recalcitrant]
    #1961382 - 09/29/03 12:23 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

you know... it can't hurt you if you don't eat it.


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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: ]
    #1961443 - 09/29/03 12:46 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

"A lot of what's being said about aspartame is really exagerrated. There are some bullshit myths that are being spread around by people who don't really know anything about doing proper research"




......Not Just Another Scare: Toxin Additives in Your Food and Drink

Russell L. Blaylock, M.D.

There are a growing number of clinicians and basic scientists who are convinced that excitotoxins play a critical role in the development of several neurological disorders, including migraines, seizures, infections, abnormal neural development, certain endocrine disorders, specific types of obesity, and especially the neurodegenerative diseases; a group of diseases which includes: ALS, Parkinson?s disease, Alzheimer?s disease, Huntington?s disease, and olivopontocerebellar degeneration.

An enormous amount of both clinical and experimental evidence has accumulated over the past decade supporting this basic premise. Yet, the FDA still refuses to recognize the immediate and long term danger to the public caused by the practice of allowing various excitotoxins to be added to the food supply, such as MSG, hydrolyzed vegetable protein, and aspartame. The amount of these neurotoxins added to our food has increased enormously since their first introduction. For example, since 1948 the amount of MSG added to foods has doubled every decade. By 1972, 262,000 metric tons were being added to foods. Over 800 million pounds of aspartame have been consumed in various products since it was first approved. Ironically, these food additives have nothing to do with preserving food or protecting its integrity. They are all used to alter the taste of food. MSG, hydrolyzed vegetable protein, and natural flavoring are used to enhance the taste of food so that it tastes better. Aspartame is an artificial sweetener.

The public must be made aware that these toxins (excitotoxins) are not present in just a few foods but rather in almost all processed foods. In many cases they are being added in disguised forms, such as natural flavoring, spices, yeast extract, textured protein, soy protein extract, etc. Experimentally, we know that when subtoxic (below toxic levels) of excitotoxins are given to animals, they experience full toxicity. Also, liquid forms of excitotoxins, as occurs in soups, gravies and diet soft drinks are more toxic than that added to solid foods. This is because they are more rapidly absorbed and reach higher blood levels.

So, what is an excitotoxin? These are substances, usually amino acids, that react with specialized receptors in the brain in such a way as to lead to destruction of certain types of brain cells. Glutamate is one of the more commonly known excitotoxins. MSG is the sodium salt of glutamate. This amino acid is a normal neurotransmitter in the brain. In fact, it is the most commonly used neurotransmitter by the brain. Defenders of MSG and aspartame use, usually say: How could a substance that is used normally by the brain cause harm? This is because, glutamate, as a neurotransmitter, is used by the brain only in very , very small concentrations - no more than 8 to 12ug. When the concentration of this transmitter rises above this level the neurons begin to fire abnormally. At higher concentrations, the cells undergo a specialized process of cell death.

The brain has several elaborate mechanisms to prevent accumulation of MSG in the brain. First is the blood-brain barrier, a system that impedes glutamate entry into the area of the brain cells. But, this system was intended to protect the brain against occasional elevation of glutamate of a moderate degree, as would be found with un-processed food consumption. It was not designed to eliminate very high concentrations of glutamate and aspartate consumed daily, several times a day, as we see in modern society. Several experiments have demonstrated that under such conditions, glutamate can by-pass this barrier system and enter the brain in toxic concentrations. In fact, there is some evidence that it may actually be concentrated within the brain with prolonged exposures.

There are also several conditions under which the blood-brain barrier (BBB) is made incompetent. Before birth, the BBB is incompetent and will allow glutamate to enter the brain. It may be that for a considerable period after birth the barrier may also incompletely developed as well. Hypertension, diabetes, head trauma, brain tumors, strokes, certain drugs, Alzheimer?s disease, vitamin and mineral deficiencies, severe hypoglycemia, heat stroke, electromagnetic radiation, ionizing radiation, multiple sclerosis, and certain infections can all cause the barrier to fail. In fact, as we age the barrier system becomes more porous, allowing excitotoxins in the blood to enter the brain. So there are numerous instances under which excitotoxin food additives can enter and damage the brain. Finally, recent experiments have shown that glutamate and aspartate (as in aspartame) can open the barrier itself. Another system used to protect the brain against environmental excitotoxins, is a system within the brain that binds the glutamate molecule (called the glutamate transporter) and transports it to a special storage cell (the astrocyte) within a fraction of a second after it is used as a neurotransmitter. This system can be overwhelmed by high intakes of MSG, aspartame and other food excitotoxins. It is also known that excitotoxins themselves can cause the generation of numerous amounts of free radicals and that during the process of lipid peroxidation (oxidation of membrane fats) a substance is produced called 4-hydroxynonenal. This chemical inhibits the glutamate transporter, thus allowing glutamate to accumulate in the brain.

Excitotoxins destroy neurons partly by stimulating the generation of large numbers of free radicals. Recently, it has been shown that this occurs not only within the brain, but also within other tissues and organs as well (liver and red blood cells). This could, from all available evidence, increase all sorts of degenerative diseases such as arthritis, coronary heart disease, and atherosclerosis,as well as induce cancer formation. Certainly, we would not want to do something that would significantly increase free radical production in the body. It is known that all of the neurodegenerative disease, such as Parkinson?s disease, Alzheimer?s disease, and ALS, are associated with free radical injury of the nervous system.

It should also be appreciated that the effects of excitotoxin food additives generally is not dramatic. Some individuals may be especially sensitive and develop severe symptoms and even sudden death from cardiac irritability, but in most instances the effects are subtle and develop over a long period of time. While MSG and aspartame are probably not causes of the neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer?s dementia, Parkinson?s disease, or amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, they may well precipitate these disorders and certainly worsen their effects. It may be that many people with a propensity for developing one of these diseases would never develop a full blown disorder had it not been for their exposure to high levels of food borne excitotoxin additives. Some may have had a very mild form of the disease had it not been for the exposure.

In July, 1995 the Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology (FASEB) conducted a definitive study for the FDA on the question of safety of MSG. The FDA wrote a very deceptive summery of the report in which they implied that, except possibly for asthma patients, MSG was found to be safe by the FASEB reviewers. But, in fact, that is not what the report said at all. I summarized, in detail, my criticism of this widely reported FDA deception in the revised paperback edition of my book, Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills, by analyzing exactly what the report said, and failed to say. For example, it never said that MSG did not aggravate neurodegenerative diseases. What they said was, there were no studies indicating such a link. Specifically, that no one has conducted any studies, positive or negative, to see if there is a link. In other words it has not been looked at. A vital difference.

Unfortunately, for the consumer, the corporate food processors not only continue to add MSG to our foods but they have gone to great links to disguise these harmful additives. For example, they use such names a hydrolyzed vegetable protein, vegetable protein, hydrolyzed plant protein, caseinate, yeast extract, and natural flavoring. We know experimentally, as stated, when these excitotoxin taste enhancers are added together they become much more toxic. In fact, excitotoxins in subtoxic concentrations can be fully toxic to specialized brain cells when used in combination. Frequently, I see processed foods on supermarket shelves, especially frozen of diet food, that contain two, three or even four types of excitotoxins. We also know that excitotoxins in a liquid form are much more toxic than solid forms because they are rapidly absorbed and attain high concentration in the blood. This means that many of the commercial soups, sauces, and gravies containing MSG are very dangerous to nervous system health, and should especially be avoided by those either having one of the above mentioned disorders, or are at a high risk of developing one of them. They should also be avoided by cancer patients and those at high risk for cancer.

In the case of ALS, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, we know that consumption of red meats and especially MSG itself, can significantly elevate blood glutamate, much higher than is seen in the normal population. Similar studies, as far as I am aware, have not been conducted in patients with Alzheimer?s disease or Parkinson?s disease. But, as a general rule I would certainly suggest that person?s with either of these diseases avoid MSG containing foods as well as red meats, cheeses, and pureed tomatoes, all of which are known to have high levels of glutamate.

It must be remembered that it is the glutamate molecule that is toxic in MSG (monosodium glutamate). Glutamate is a naturally occurring amino acid found in varying concentrations in many foods. Defenders of MSG safety allude to this fact in their defense. But, it is free glutamate that is the culprit. Bound glutamate, found naturally in foods, is less dangerous because it is slowly broken down and absorbed by the gut, so that it can be utilized by the tissues, especially muscle, before toxic concentrations can build up. Therefore, a whole tomato is safer than a pureed tomato. The only exception to this, based on present knowledge, is in the case of ALS. Also, in the case of tomatoes, the plant contains several powerful antioxidants known to block glutamate toxicity.

Hydrolyzed vegetable protein should not be confused with hydrolyzed vegetable oil. The oil does not contain appreciable concentration of glutamate, it is an oil. Hydrolyzed vegetable protein is made by a chemical process that breaks down the vegetable?s protein structure to purposefully free the glutamate, as well as aspartate, another excitotoxin. This brown powdery substance is used to enhance the flavor of foods, especially meat dishes, soups, and sauces. Despite the fact that some health food manufacturers have attempted to sell the idea that this flavor enhancer is " all natural" and "safe" because it is made from vegetables, it is not. It is the same substance added to processed foods. Experimentally, one can produce the same brain lesions using hydrolyzed vegetable protein as by using MSG or aspartate.

A growing list of excitotoxins is being discovered, including several that are found naturally. For example, L- cysteine is a very powerful excitotoxin. Recently, it has been added to certain bread dough and is sold in health food stores as a supplement. Homocysteine, a metabolic derivative, is also an excitotoxin. Interestingly, elevated blood levels of homocysteine has recently been shown to be a major, if not the major, indicator of cardiovascular disease and stroke. Equally interesting, is the finding that elevated levels have also been implicated in neurodevelopmental disorders, especially anencephaly and spinal dysraphism (neural tube defects). It is thought that this is the protective mechanism of action of the prenatal vitamins B12, B6, and folate when used in combination. It remains to be seen if the toxic effect is excitatory or by some other mechanism. If it is excitatory, then unborn infants would be endangered as well by glutamate, aspartate (part of the aspartame molecule), and the other excitotoxins. Recently, several studies have been done in which it was found that all Alzheimer?s patients examined had elevated levels of homocysteine.

Recent studies have shown that persons affected by Alzheimer?s disease also have widespread destruction of their retinal ganglion cells. Interestingly, this is the area found to be affected when Lucas and Newhouse first discovered the excitotoxicity of MSG. While this does not prove that dietary glutamate and other excitotoxins cause or aggravate Alzheimer?s disease, it makes one very suspicious. One could argue a common intrinsic etiology for central nervous system neuronal damage and retinal ganglion cell damage, but these findings are disconcerting enough to warrant further investigations.



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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: ]
    #1961447 - 09/29/03 12:47 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I use splenda myself, and I don't care if it makes rattlesnakes crosseyed in the lab.


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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1961466 - 09/29/03 12:52 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I sprinkle nutrasweet on my donuts before washing them down with heavy cream.


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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: Autonomous]
    #1961477 - 09/29/03 12:55 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

well you guys must not care about brain function and thats your choice , but this shit SHOULD not be legal in MY COUNTRY at least


I dont mean to sound ike a dick, but I think anyone that KNOWS about aspartame and still uses it is either stupid, or really sad ,and doesnt care about himself


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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: Autonomous]
    #1961482 - 09/29/03 12:56 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Hey Kari looks like your a fatty and you have fat in the brain.
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I went to the hospital to see her and, how ironic, the nurse brought her a Diet Coke. I have tried to warn her of my findings about diet soda, but she won't stop drinking it. I think she is addicted.



That would be from the caffeine you heifer.


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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: daussaulit]
    #1961489 - 09/29/03 12:59 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

how so????????

people throw the word around all the time, how do you know she was being literal

anyway if you want to get rid of fat or other stuff in the brain(like the brain itself!!!!!!) just start chuging !!!!

aspartame WAS part of NERVE GAS and now its sweetner !


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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #1961496 - 09/29/03 01:01 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

how about everyone just start watching what they eat, control their portions, eat slower, workout more, and then you can treat yourself to a soda everyday without worrying about getting pudgy.


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Re: your brain on ASPARTAME [Re: daussaulit]
    #1961502 - 09/29/03 01:03 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

its not pudgy people have to worry about with this shit


Pilots dont drink it , WHY

cause they know about it , this stuff is the worst thing out there , people can talk about eating or not eating meat

but this shit is poison !!!!!!!

only a moron (or a child) would willing put it in their body(knowing what it does)


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