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Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? * 1
    #19591756 - 02/19/14 07:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

As the title inquires, I'm wondering how many of you ingest Lions Mane either via an extract or eating the whole fruiting body, on a daily basis?

After more than 90+ days of ingesting a high quality extract of Lions Mane, I can certainly compare it to being like caffeine for your brain. My mind is much more clear after ingesting my two capsules each day, it's like night and day. I've had a few friends try it, and they liken it to natural Adderall, which I suppose is why it works so well for me.

From my reflexes, to my ability to navigate throughout my mind mid thought, to my dreaming, all my cognitive ability seems thoroughly enhanced.

There has only been a period of 3 consecutive days that I was without the Lions Mane, and those days I felt like my mind was in a vice.

Anyone else have an experience to share?

Thanks for sharing!


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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: ReggieJenkins]
    #19591939 - 02/19/14 08:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Where do you get your lion's mane from? This is the first time I'm hearing about it. I'm def going to do some research now.

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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: lot_justice]
    #19592589 - 02/19/14 11:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm also curious if there are folks here that consume home grown lions mane on a daily basis, and how they prepared it for consumption.


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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: forrest]
    #19592734 - 02/19/14 11:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I made some capsules of dried/powdered fruitbody for my wife, but she didn't really take them regularly enough to notice a difference.  She complains of the brain fog which is why it was tested on her, not me.

If I can manage to grow enough of it, I would like to give it a shot myself after hearing what you say!  Quite interesting.  Have you tried any nootropics?  Anything like that?


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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: Forrester]
    #19593661 - 02/20/14 08:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Have you tried any nootropics?  Anything like that?





Aye, as a matter of fact I have. I ordered some Citicoline from Amazon, Jarrow was the manufacturer, with good results. I started with the Neuro Optimizer formula, went to straight Citicoline, and then graduated to Lions Mane. I should, at this point note, that I do compliment the Lions Mane with Reishi, daily, as well.

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Where do you get your lion's mane from? This is the first time I'm hearing about it. I'm def going to do some research now.




If I'm allowed to use the name, I use Mushroom Science brand capsules. I chose these guys because they do multiple extracts of the fruit bodies, instead of just myceliated brown rice cakes, such as the 'Host Defense' line of products tend to use.

**Edit: I was given misguided information from the health food store!**

I just can't imagine that mycelium has the same medicinal value that a whole fruiting body has. They also do a hot water extract, and an alcohol based extract to get the highest concentration of active constituents. I'm a big fan of you get what you pay for too....it's definitely not cheap, but not expensive either.

Just to prove that I do, in fact, ingest lots of this, here are the remnants of months passed, don't mind the LC jar!




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She complains of the brain fog which is why it was tested on her, not me.




Have her try the Mushroom Science brand, 2-3 caps. Give it 30 minutes and I'll be willing to bet that she will be feeling better. My fiance and I both agree that without the Lions Mane, that fog gets the best of us. I would even be willing to send a couple capsules your way, Forrester, to kind of 'try it before you buy it', if you'd like!

Anyone else care to chime in?

Peace and good vibes!

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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: ReggieJenkins]
    #19593823 - 02/20/14 09:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

In the ingredients on their website there's no mention of fruit bodies, just myceliated rice and lions mane mycelium.  Also the ingredients don't list an extract of any kind. Does it say that stuff somewhere else?


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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: liamtheloser]
    #19594013 - 02/20/14 10:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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In the ingredients on their website there's no mention of fruit bodies, just myceliated rice and lions mane mycelium.  Also the ingredients don't list an extract of any kind. Does it say that stuff somewhere else?



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In the ingredients on their website there's no mention of fruit bodies, just myceliated rice and lions mane mycelium.  Also the ingredients don't list an extract of any kind. Does it say that stuff somewhere else?



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In the ingredients on their website there's no mention of fruit bodies, just myceliated rice and lions mane mycelium.  Also the ingredients don't list an extract of any kind. Does it say that stuff somewhere else?




I had been given this information from the health food store in regard to this brand, in regard to the Reishi. I had assumed this was the same with the Lions Mane, but it would appear that I made an ass out of myself by assuming. Lesson learned!

The bottle for the Lions Mane reads:

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Organic Lions Mane Mushroom: 300MG

(Hericium erinaceus), hot water/alcohol extract 20% polysaccharide

Other ingredients: Vegetarian capsules (cellulose), Hericium erinoceus mycelium, myceliated rice.






The bottle for the Reishi reads:

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Organic Reishi Mushroom: 400mg

(Ganoderma lucidum, Reishi Gano 161), hot water/alcohol extract 12% polysaccharide, 4% triterpene

Other ingredients: Vegetarian capsules (cellulose), Ganoderma lucidum mycelium, myceliated rice.





Hopefully this clears things up a bit, and my assumptions have been corrected. I've edited my original post to indicate that I was wrong. Though, now I have a new question! Do the fruit bodies actually contain more medicinal value than the myceliated brown rice or is it essentially the same?

Thanks!

EDIT: I just looked at my Host Defense: Reishi Extract, which uses both Reishi Mycelium and Dried Fruit Bodies to produce a 1:1 extract.


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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: ReggieJenkins]
    #19594284 - 02/20/14 11:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

With reishi you need the fruit bodies because some of the medicinals are in the spores. I don't know about lions mane, but there are probably some in the mycelium, but could be more concentrated in the fruit body.  I think the only species that is the same or better than fruiting body is cordyceps.  I don't know how much study has been done on myc vs fruit with other species.


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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: liamtheloser]
    #19594975 - 02/20/14 02:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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With reishi you need the fruit bodies because some of the medicinals are in the spores.





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I think the only species that is the same or better than fruiting body is cordyceps.





Today I learned!

I'll continue looking for more information on mycelium vs fruiting bodies and the efficacy of the respective extracts. In the meantime, hopefully someone else can chime in!

Thanks,

Reggie


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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: ReggieJenkins]
    #19597697 - 02/21/14 12:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Have her try the Mushroom Science brand, 2-3 caps. Give it 30 minutes and I'll be willing to bet that she will be feeling better. My fiance and I both agree that without the Lions Mane, that fog gets the best of us. I would even be willing to send a couple capsules your way, Forrester, to kind of 'try it before you buy it', if you'd like!




Awesome man, I might like to try that!

On the whole mycelium vs. fruitbody thing - as far as lion's mane goes, I'd have a hard time believing any mycelium product wouldn't contain a large amount of fruitbodies as well.  You can't stop the stuff from pinning, and the mycelium is so thin and weak you'd have to grow it a long time (or you'd just be getting ground rice), at which point it would be mostly fruitbody material anyway.  :shrug: 

From my understanding, that's how Aloha does most of theirs, they grow it long enough that it's a mix of mycelium and invitro fruits - just what you want to get the benefits of both.

I would almost guarantee your "myceliated rice" of lion's mane contains plenty of fruit body material as well.


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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: Forrester]
    #19598318 - 02/21/14 06:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I wonder how they get the alcohol and hot-h2o extract into they pill?  Dehydrate the tincture until turns into powder/oil? I want to grind my dried lions mane and put it into capsules. Im just not sure if raw FB is as effective as an extract.  I think AV believes that if its finely powdered you dont need to heat it.  I will probably just try it and see what happens.


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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: Aleon]
    #19598331 - 02/21/14 06:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

you could let some ground, dried fruitbody/mycelium suck/soak up the tincture and then let it dry out, then put that in a capsule.


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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: forrest]
    #19598368 - 02/21/14 07:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Lions mane? What about Lions teeth? Now that will get you running..


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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: Forrester]
    #19598585 - 02/21/14 08:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You can't stop the stuff from pinning, and the mycelium is so thin and weak you'd have to grow it a long time (or you'd just be getting ground rice), at which point it would be mostly fruitbody material anyway.  :shrug: 

I would almost guarantee your "myceliated rice" of lion's mane contains plenty of fruit body material as well.




This then confirms what I've read in regards to Lions Mane, as far as it pinning. I remember reading a few posts by RR in regard to people being concerned with his strain of Lions Mane pinning before it was pushed into fruiting or spawned to a bulk substrate. I believe he said that's just the way things work with Lions Mane, and it's perfectly fine to run Lions Mane spawn that has pins already.

I've still gotta wait like 60 days before I can post in the marketplace, I wanna trade some Reishi LC for Lions Mane and grow my own!!!!!!! This fungus is very interesting.

Thanks for all the clarification everyone, I know understand extracts and most importantly, whats inside of them, more than I did before!


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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: Aleon]
    #19598714 - 02/21/14 09:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I wonder how they get the alcohol and hot-h2o extract into they pill?  Dehydrate the tincture until turns into powder/oil? I want to grind my dried lions mane and put it into capsules. Im just not sure if raw FB is as effective as an extract.  I think AV believes that if its finely powdered you dont need to heat it.  I will probably just try it and see what happens.




I know if I tried to dehydrate my reishi extract you would end up with a black substance no where near powder. Not quite sure how you would do that either.


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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: nanncee]
    #19599031 - 02/21/14 10:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Companies like FP extract their mushrooms in water, then freeze dry the liquid.

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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: ReggieJenkins]
    #25507892 - 10/02/18 11:21 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Highly doubt this thread is still active BUT worth a shot. Does anyone know where I can get Lions Mane capsules? I tried these guys Nootropic Source but their website is offline at the moment, and I'm hesitant to try ebay sellers. Any advice?

thank you in advance!

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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: Dubtribe1]
    #25508669 - 10/03/18 09:53 AM (5 years, 5 months ago)

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Highly doubt this thread is still active BUT worth a shot. Does anyone know where I can get Lions Mane capsules? I tried these guys Nootropic Source but their website is offline at the moment, and I'm hesitant to try ebay sellers. Any advice?

thank you in advance!




Stamets sells 'em on his Host Defense website..


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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: MidnightTopher]
    #25509152 - 10/03/18 12:36 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

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Highly doubt this thread is still active BUT worth a shot. Does anyone know where I can get Lions Mane capsules? I tried these guys Nootropic Source but their website is offline at the moment, and I'm hesitant to try ebay sellers. Any advice?

thank you in advance!




Stamets sells 'em on his Host Defense website..




Been taken these for the last few days now! They are pretty expensive though, but it's definitely worth it I must say. Hope some day I'll be able to grow them myself.

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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: Time Tourist]
    #25509778 - 10/03/18 04:42 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

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Highly doubt this thread is still active BUT worth a shot. Does anyone know where I can get Lions Mane capsules? I tried these guys Nootropic Source but their website is offline at the moment, and I'm hesitant to try ebay sellers. Any advice?

thank you in advance!




Stamets sells 'em on his Host Defense website..




Been taken these for the last few days now! They are pretty expensive though, but it's definitely worth it I must say. Hope some day I'll be able to grow them myself.




Yeah.. Stamets podcast with Joe Rogan this summer piqued my interest in Lion's Mane. He talked about stacking it with Vitamin D3 and psilocybin for ultimate mind powers...

The nerve regeneration aspect of LM also interests me. I'm a manual laborer who also lifts weights recreationally and often find myself with numbness is my appendages.. wondering if it could help me heal.


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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: MidnightTopher]
    #25510833 - 10/04/18 01:42 AM (5 years, 5 months ago)

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Highly doubt this thread is still active BUT worth a shot. Does anyone know where I can get Lions Mane capsules? I tried these guys Nootropic Source but their website is offline at the moment, and I'm hesitant to try ebay sellers. Any advice?

thank you in advance!




Stamets sells 'em on his Host Defense website..




Been taken these for the last few days now! They are pretty expensive though, but it's definitely worth it I must say. Hope some day I'll be able to grow them myself.




Yeah.. Stamets podcast with Joe Rogan this summer piqued my interest in Lion's Mane. He talked about stacking it with Vitamin D3 and psilocybin for ultimate mind powers...

The nerve regeneration aspect of LM also interests me. I'm a manual laborer who also lifts weights recreationally and often find myself with numbness is my appendages.. wondering if it could help me heal.




Yes that podcast was really interesting. Also what Stamets said (or actually didn't say) about portobello mushrooms... Since then I refuse to eat those.

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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: Time Tourist]
    #25515723 - 10/05/18 07:27 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Growing lions main myceliated rice is extremely easy and effective. As a bonus you'll still get small fruit bodies in the jar!

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    #25525606 - 10/09/18 09:07 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

I grow, dehydrate and encapsulate my own lions mane and take it daily.

Be careful with any mushroom supplements made from imported Chinese ingredients, a few have been found to have high levels of heavy metals, lead, etc from air pollution.

You'll also want to look at what the capsules contain. Most (including Host Defence) are made from myceliated brown rice, which is essentially ground up mushroom spawn and does not contain any actual fruiting bodies, cheaper to produce but you're paying top dollar for capsules of brown rice flour with a small amount of Lions Mane mycelium.

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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: Mangowaffle]
    #25526146 - 10/10/18 05:55 AM (5 years, 5 months ago)

man id love to encapsulate my own lions mane, how do you do it? manually each one by one? or using some kind of machine?

I also live in a somewhat polluted area, who should i aproach or how should i test what are the heavy metal levels on the shrooms i grow?


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    #25527420 - 10/10/18 04:05 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

You can buy cheap capsule machines that fill bulk capsules at once. As for testing your product, you'd need to send samples to a lab that offers product testing / quality assurance services. You can find labs like this online that do testing for cash.

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    #25527556 - 10/10/18 04:49 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: MidnightTopher]
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Highly doubt this thread is still active BUT worth a shot. Does anyone know where I can get Lions Mane capsules? I tried these guys Nootropic Source but their website is offline at the moment, and I'm hesitant to try ebay sellers. Any advice?

thank you in advance!




Stamets sells 'em on his Host Defense website..




Been taken these for the last few days now! They are pretty expensive though, but it's definitely worth it I must say. Hope some day I'll be able to grow them myself.




Yeah.. Stamets podcast with Joe Rogan this summer piqued my interest in Lion's Mane. He talked about stacking it with Vitamin D3 and psilocybin for ultimate mind powers...

The nerve regeneration aspect of LM also interests me. I'm a manual laborer who also lifts weights recreationally and often find myself with numbness is my appendages.. wondering if it could help me heal.




He actually talked about stacking it with Niacin and Psilocybin. We have been doing it for a couple months now. It is interesting. Just starting to grow my own lions mane to cut the expense.

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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: DamienRoads]
    #25813741 - 02/15/19 02:48 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

I take about a gram and a half of organic lions mane a day. I buy it in 8 Oz bags until my culture takes off. I encapsulate it myself. Saves a ton of money.

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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: Anoobus]
    #26634237 - 04/28/20 12:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Dunno if this will work since no one's touched this thread in so long, but wondering if anyone got down to the bottom of which is the best extract? About to go for this Mushroom Science mentioned early on in this thread. Do any other one's list the fruiting body as the ingredient? I see it may not matter, according to Forrester. 

As for myceliated grain, I've gotten Hericeum erinaceus easily going in some millet, but the 4/5 times I've transferred them to pasteurized wood pellets they molded out. One time, I managed to get small fruit bodies. Could I just keep propagating grain and consume that as a nootropic?


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Re: Anyone else consume Lions Mane on a daily? [Re: Noux]
    #26636443 - 04/29/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Noux said:
As for myceliated grain, I've gotten Hericeum erinaceus easily going in some millet, but the 4/5 times I've transferred them to pasteurized wood pellets they molded out. One time, I managed to get small fruit bodies. Could I just keep propagating grain and consume that as a nootropic?




That's what I would do, but first make sure your millet spawn isn't the source of the mold contaminant :thumbup:


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