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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19579458 - 02/17/14 11:55 AM (10 years, 8 days ago)

This post has made me switch to airpump  as all the benefits you have listed outweigh the cons. Thanks


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19579466 - 02/17/14 11:56 AM (10 years, 8 days ago)

Wow I'm amazed that this grow is still going. You've really managed to get all you can out of that tub. Good job!


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) FLUSH 5 Harvest COMPLETE 2/17 [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19579582 - 02/17/14 12:33 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

Damn. Thats a great setup. Like seriously nice job! So let me get this straight, the only holes in the tub, were the ones where the air pumps are attached?


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) FLUSH 5 Harvest COMPLETE 2/17 [Re: Psilopsychic]
    #19580558 - 02/17/14 03:31 PM (10 years, 7 days ago)

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Damn. Thats a great setup. Like seriously nice job! So let me get this straight, the only holes in the tub, were the ones where the air pumps are attached?




This is correct.


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) FLUSH 5 Harvest COMPLETE 2/17 [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19584539 - 02/18/14 10:24 AM (10 years, 7 days ago)

So now that you've removed one pump, did you seal up the old hole or are you leaving it for air evacuation?

also have you thought about capping the end of a hose and poking little holes in the thing and stringing it around the perimeter of the tub? Im not sure if it would be powerful enough but I am thinking about giving something like that a try.

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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) FLUSH 5 Harvest COMPLETE 2/17 [Re: b4n4n4r4m4]
    #19584757 - 02/18/14 11:37 AM (10 years, 7 days ago)

So i ended up moving to a new place. Landlord found out we have a dog:/ But good news is i am ready for 4 or 5 tubs. Putting them together tonight and using this method. Ill throw up a grow log and connect my link when i get there.


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) FLUSH 5 Harvest COMPLETE 2/17 [Re: b4n4n4r4m4]
    #19585038 - 02/18/14 12:56 PM (10 years, 7 days ago)

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So i ended up moving to a new place. Landlord found out we have a dog:/ But good news is i am ready for 4 or 5 tubs. Putting them together tonight and using this method. Ill throw up a grow log and connect my link when i get there.




Alex I'm excited to hear that. I really hope this method will work for others and that it's not just me or some specific circumstances of my apartment that has made this successful.

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So now that you've removed one pump, did you seal up the old hole or are you leaving it for air evacuation?

also have you thought about capping the end of a hose and poking little holes in the thing and stringing it around the perimeter of the tub? Im not sure if it would be powerful enough but I am thinking about giving something like that a try.

post new pictures!




I've hopped back and forth for a while on these things. For flush four and five most of the time there was one hose with the hole plugged up with a little parafilm. I've been almost completely neglect tek at this point until yesterday.

I saw that there was no more pinning happening on the top surface of the substrate but there WAS pinning happening on the sides where had been no previous mushroom growth.  So I figured I'd flip the substrate over and sure enough there were already pins and even some half formed mushrooms.  After I flipped the sub they started growing upwards.  At this point I have also started misting and fanning to try and create some evaporation off the bottom (now the top) of the substrate.  Hoping this will jump start some more pins even if they aren't going to yield much at this point.

Here's flush 6 in progress. I harvested the bigger caps and ones that were ready today and it totaled 80 grams wet.



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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) FLUSH 5 Harvest COMPLETE 2/17 [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19585072 - 02/18/14 01:02 PM (10 years, 7 days ago)

looking good. Iv been flipping my subs between flushes for a while now it has worked well for me.


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) FLUSH 5 Harvest COMPLETE 2/17 [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19587143 - 02/18/14 08:32 PM (10 years, 6 days ago)

I have flipped subs and have it pay off but,  I have found that it my flipped flush is uusually my last. Regardless nice result ET. I could never pull that setup off with my climate but, it looks to be working for you. I would like to see what happens if you cased it.


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19590416 - 02/19/14 03:26 PM (10 years, 5 days ago)

2/19: More shrooms harvested today. Wet weight 100 grams totaling 180 for this flush so far and there are still a few left to harvest. Probably will happen later in the evening.

     


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19590432 - 02/19/14 03:28 PM (10 years, 5 days ago)

let that sub die already:laugh2:


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: cronicr]
    #19590446 - 02/19/14 03:33 PM (10 years, 5 days ago)

that's pretty good for a 6th flush.:thumbup:


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19591539 - 02/19/14 07:18 PM (10 years, 5 days ago)

Elasticaltiger, this is an awesome thread! I am just now finding it after you have had all the fun of a most bountiful harvest. I will try this method soon. Your yield is much better than my first and only attempt at a Fiji monotub. Last year, I got a Fiji print from a well respected Shroomery member. I grew it out because there is not a lot of info the Fiji strain online and I was curious about it. I have grown many multispore monotubs. My method is agar (isolated twice to insure no contamination) to rye grain to coco coir/ vermiculite in traditional monotub with polyfill holes. I have gotten a wall to wall canopy of shrooms with most of my tubs. The Fiji strain was by far the worst producing monotub that I have ever done. I think this may be due to the fact that it is an undomesticated strain. Be that as it may, they were by far the most fun trip ever. The psychonauts that I shared my dismal harvest with all agreed that these were some very potent and unique shrooms. A lot of my Fijis bruised a greenish color. That is unusual for a cubensis. I do not want to get banned for starting a strain discussion. I would just like to say that Fiji cubensis are awesome! I have a Fiji clone on agar that I will grow out using your air pump monotub method soon. Thank you for sharing your experience! namaste


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: overstand]
    #19591651 - 02/19/14 07:39 PM (10 years, 5 days ago)

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A lot of my Fijis bruised a greenish color.




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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19592221 - 02/19/14 09:42 PM (10 years, 5 days ago)

Wring that fucker out!  Squeeze out every last mushroom! LOL


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19592307 - 02/19/14 10:02 PM (10 years, 5 days ago)

When you place the hoses on the tub, is one pointing close to the top while the other is pointed at the bottom? Are they basically just pointed at opposite ends and heights and then left to run continuously or does one need the pump on a timer at certain times.


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: Ambicerebral321]
    #19592466 - 02/19/14 10:42 PM (10 years, 5 days ago)

From my brief knowledge most will say it depends on the variables of ur particular setup. I do know u need a certain amount of air exchanges per hour. From what I read most start with running 5-15min an hour and then monitor it to see if u need more or less FEA. I would use a long fish tank air stone/wand inside to help distribute air better. Especially after they start growin.


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: fivepointhustla]
    #19592833 - 02/20/14 12:25 AM (10 years, 5 days ago)

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When you place the hoses on the tub, is one pointing close to the top while the other is pointed at the bottom? Are they basically just pointed at opposite ends and heights and then left to run continuously or does one need the pump on a timer at certain times.




I just let it run all day though I've experimented using only one at a time.  The pumps just kinda point straight in. 

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From my brief knowledge most will say it depends on the variables of ur particular setup. I do know u need a certain amount of air exchanges per hour. From what I read most start with running 5-15min an hour and then monitor it to see if u need more or less FEA. I would use a long fish tank air stone/wand inside to help distribute air better. Especially after they start growin.




If you can make it work with an airstone in water then that's awesome but deep down in my gut I feel that an air stone in water is completely counter productive.  It just needs air. The air will circulate fine with two points of entry.  You may be distributing air more 'evenly' from a stone in water but my gut says that the water makes the airflow lose all of the 'mmmph' that you have from just piping it in straight like a directed current.  Just my thoughts though.


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19593535 - 02/20/14 07:15 AM (10 years, 5 days ago)

I meant just an air stone or wand with no water on them. But the KISS in me says just run it like u have. I may try this on my next bulk grow.


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: fivepointhustla]
    #19593902 - 02/20/14 09:53 AM (10 years, 5 days ago)

I was thinking about the waterless airstone experiment, I think this can help with a more even displacement of co2 with FAE. Maybe hang the stone in dead center of the FC about 2inches from perlite, I wouldn't leave the air pump on continuously. The airpump shouldn't be one of the bigger ones unless your running multipule hoses, the smaller one I feel would be enough. Has anyone tried this method. Maybe 2 airstone hoses split the difference from the middle might give a more even exchange and airflow from all areas at once for quicker FAE?  Just a thought hope I don't get to much grief.


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