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Fragment

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Fragment said: Look at spiritual energy like confidence, talents, awareness some are weaker then others so if one of us outlast the other in a wanking contest that person would have the bigger spiritual bowl.
that's what i'm saying when my cup runneth over, there's no fear of a drought not that masturbation or sex is a competition where you're looking over your shoulder worrying how others are doing... it's self exploration at its finest
Hell yeah why hold back it's the same as mountain jumping if someone tells you always not to do it you'll never get to the water. Again with mountain climbing don't go but then I couldn't climb the mountain you can't run from risk which is fine because it's not that serious in the first place. Walking thru Afghanistan is seriously different from ejaculating. Calculate the risk the effort needed and the tools and get the job done with minimal backlash. Knowledge capacity has to have a slot for spiritual all knowing to fit inside some have gigantic potential. I said that to say the more you learn the better off you'll be me I wanna wack my penis so spiritual and sexual is going to have to be revolving doors. Strip club then church everything shall have a time and place.
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absols
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Re: masturbation [Re: Deviate]
#19564811 - 02/14/14 04:54 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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you clearly mean to be opposed to individuals rights and true existence value in being consciously ..
what you mean is to stay out of existence realms so through the force and powers of nothingness life which is an evil thing
only by being individually real that conscious is free .. while only true freedom being is right always and what can never hurt or touch else rights
anyway masturbation is not something nice .. that is how it is meant for kids since it is not something that gives anything to keep doing it but masturbation is like many others things that could look negative but are necessary to break the false identity of being by any individual move, forcing the isolation of being for true selves realizations sense
like also revolted reactions to anything present are also healthy for young age of being .. it helps to move out so to break free through individual ways of objective truth or anger and rejections of others can also be very healthy for young age and for the same reasons
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CosmicJoke
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Re: masturbation [Re: Fragment]
#19564815 - 02/14/14 04:57 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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Hell yeah why hold back it's the same as mountain jumping if someone tells you always not to do it you'll never get to the water. Again with mountain climbing don't go but then I couldn't climb the mountain you can't run from risk which is fine because it's not that serious in the first place. Walking thru Afghanistan is seriously different from ejaculating. Calculate the risk the effort needed and the tools and get the job done with minimal backlash. Knowledge capacity has to have a slot for spiritual all knowing to fit inside some have gigantic potential. I said that to say the more you learn the better off you'll be me I wanna wack my penis so spiritual and sexual is going to have to be revolving doors. Strip club then church everything shall have a time and place.
When climbing Everest one doesn't stop to beat their meat, nor crossing the desert... You need to save that energy, you need it (not to mention hypothermia/frost bite, dehydration) However, if the conditions are right, you may just take to your wanking like a duck to water, most natural thing ever..... Thing is, there is a hierarchy of needs that must be met.... Gotta feel safe first, can't be watching your ass for a desert storm or avalanche if you want to get jiggy with it....
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Re: masturbation [Re: Deviate]
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Deviate said: I masturbated last night for the first time in a while and afterward I realized how it drains my vital energy.
THis must be why religions tell you not to masturbate. It causes you to lose the build up of that delightful vital energy that builds up in you gradually when you lead a life of prayer and contemplation.
I remember I used to think it was absurd or ridiculous for a religion to ask me not to masturbate, I was that addicted to it. I recall examining the teachings of the Holy Catholic Church on masturbation and having it tell me that masturbation was a "gravely disordered action". At the time, I could not understand that teaching but it now makes sense.
Stopping masturbation has really changed my entire life right down to how I feel and what I think about on a daily bases.
I find my mindset usually has a lot to do with the outcome. I grew up with quite a conservative look at sex. My parents were rarely intimate in front of me and sex before marriage was a big no-no. It didn't stop me from having sex before marriage but it did influence the experience in undesirable ways. There was mental resistance at the same time as there was mental engagement.
Masturbation is the same IME. Mental resistance and mental engagement together = very draining. Much more draining than either by themselves. Its the conflict that is draining. I say this as someone who actively explores his own hang ups around sex having come from a prude background. For me a balance has been best. Going down the path of hedonistic sex hasn't worked well. It leads to remorse over time. Going down the path of abstinence has been needlessly hard on my body.
No, the most energy I ever have is when I just listen to my body. I'm not overly driven towards sex but I am still a man. A week without sex isn't rare or taxing. But when things start to heat up there is no reason for me to waste effort trying to stop them. Its a much healthier experience overall. Enjoying sexual stimulation is not a crime. Its honest. If you don't enjoy it the odds are good that a mental battle is taking the experience and adding conflict to it.
Sexual enjoyment is not draining. Sexual conflict is.
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Re: masturbation [Re: Deviate]
#19565669 - 02/14/14 10:17 AM (10 years, 10 days ago) |
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How long are yo going without doing it like a few days or a week or month?
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Hell yeah why hold back it's the same as mountain jumping if someone tells you always not to do it you'll never get to the water. Again with mountain climbing don't go but then I couldn't climb the mountain you can't run from risk which is fine because it's not that serious in the first place. Walking thru Afghanistan is seriously different from ejaculating. Calculate the risk the effort needed and the tools and get the job done with minimal backlash. Knowledge capacity has to have a slot for spiritual all knowing to fit inside some have gigantic potential. I said that to say the more you learn the better off you'll be me I wanna wack my penis so spiritual and sexual is going to have to be revolving doors. Strip club then church everything shall have a time and place.
When climbing Everest one doesn't stop to beat their meat, nor crossing the desert... You need to save that energy, you need it (not to mention hypothermia/frost bite, dehydration) However, if the conditions are right, you may just take to your wanking like a duck to water, most natural thing ever..... Thing is, there is a hierarchy of needs that must be met.... Gotta feel safe first, can't be watching your ass for a desert storm or avalanche if you want to get jiggy with it....
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Hell yeah why hold back it's the same as mountain jumping if someone tells you always not to do it you'll never get to the water. Again with mountain climbing don't go but then I couldn't climb the mountain you can't run from risk which is fine because it's not that serious in the first place. Walking thru Afghanistan is seriously different from ejaculating. Calculate the risk the effort needed and the tools and get the job done with minimal backlash. Knowledge capacity has to have a slot for spiritual all knowing to fit inside some have gigantic potential. I said that to say the more you learn the better off you'll be me I wanna wack my penis so spiritual and sexual is going to have to be revolving doors. Strip club then church everything shall have a time and place.
When climbing Everest one doesn't stop to beat their meat, nor crossing the desert... You need to save that energy, you need it (not to mention hypothermia/frost bite, dehydration) However, if the conditions are right, you may just take to your wanking like a duck to water, most natural thing ever..... Thing is, there is a hierarchy of needs that must be met.... Gotta feel safe first, can't be watching your ass for a desert storm or avalanche if you want to get jiggy with it....
Sounds good to me your spiritual energy should have stamina just like any other energy even though how you put it makes the light bulb say physical. Think of it as a balloon which you blow up over time who's to say you don't have one that new one that sustains. It's all about mindset it's kinda like the bed in the morning either you can wake up on the wrong side or wake up prepared. With this deflation process either have confidence in replenishing or holding it all in. They tell doctor's to go to class there's so much they know that it's needs constant stimulation and or updating. This is also one of the reasons people pack into a church every week. How much it helps then not do the things of this world who knows to me it's hypocritical or you can look at it as a replenish a reminder. I think we should constantly remind are-selves not stop wanking. I'd love for that question to be answered by someone smart. Is this just wanking or does it include all sex.
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Re: masturbation [Re: Deviate]
#19572029 - 02/15/14 09:23 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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I feel that masturbation is unhealthy, while sex is healthy, for me. I feel better when keeping my hand off it. Certain cheap shitty drug experiences usually set me back and I end up wanking off allot for a couple of weeks, spiraling into overwhelming self disgust and intense fatigue.
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usulpsychonaut said: I feel that masturbation is unhealthy, while sex is healthy, for me. I feel better when keeping my hand off it. Certain cheap shitty drug experiences usually set me back and I end up wanking off allot for a couple of weeks, spiraling into overwhelming self disgust and intense fatigue.
r u having alot of sex then i assume ?
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No. I'm an introvert. Went for 4 and a half years without. Now I'm moving further out, away, can't fit any social settings in/there is nothing for me. Kinda working at getting my income up to a point where I can pay for some decent sexual/drug experience perhaps once every 6 months. I no longer have any reason why I should like or respect women. I bore them, they bore me.
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Interesting.
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ShiVersblood
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You are not masturbation!? or u think its a unhealty addiction that u simply cannot stop?
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I don't at the moment. There really is no upside to it. My apathy is strong enough to know that I should just get up and go for a piss then find a distraction.
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Re: masturbation [Re: Deviate]
#19573119 - 02/16/14 01:36 AM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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Deviate said: I'm not talking about morality, I am talking vital energy. I notice that when I dont masturbate, I feel more vitality within me. This is just my personal experience and it happens to mirror what is taught by religion.
My experience of this is quite similar. I find sex draining in a similar way, but sex feels incredibly beneficial for my lover and I emotionally while masturbation does not. What I would describe subjectively as a loss of vitality / energy seems to be a result of having orgasm and/or emitting semen. Because of this, I don't masturbate; I save my energy for sex. If I were single, I'd probably use the techniques of yoga I've received to simply be sexually inactive altogether.
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Re: masturbation [Re: hmmn]
#19574250 - 02/16/14 10:44 AM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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I find my bodily and spiritual energy highest when I come to orgasm on a regular (daily) basis. Makes no difference if it's via masturbation or sex, but I suspect the target of masturbation (Internet porn vs imagination?) might be the reason why some of you report feeling low after flogging the monkey.
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