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 TheGanjaGorilla
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Registered: 11/20/02
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 To retape or not to retape, that is the question. 
#1956029 - 09/26/03 11:04 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey folks, A FOAF of mine has one little jar that was just slowly moving along. He removed the tape from one of the holes, placed a coffee filter over the lid, and screwed the ring back on.
After only two days the results were GREAT! Stronger growth, and it's moving along alot faster. Now the question, Should he leave the jar as is, or should he now retape the hole to keep the jar from drying out? What should he do?
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TheSlapnCapn
Slappin' thangs.
 
Registered: 08/08/03
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 Re: To retape or not to retape, that is the question. [Re: TheGanjaGorilla]
#1956045 - 09/26/03 11:14 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I haven't taped mine and drying out is not a problem (water builds up on the insides but dry out? nah). The top verm layer should be enough to keep contams out... let the air flow. Coffee filter if you like but tape is useful i think only for keeping out contams before first signs of growth. After that I want my babies to get as much air as they possibly can get. but that is just me... maybe i'm a gambler.
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 dysphoria
lost soul
Registered: 06/04/03
Posts: 1,651
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Re: To retape or not to retape, that is the question. [Re: TheGanjaGorilla]
#1956046 - 09/26/03 11:14 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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if you are planning to dunk and roll(and by all accounts, you should), then this is a moot point to _some_ degree.
you said yourself, the results were great without the tape.
it'll obviously colonize faster without the tape
which is the main goal in colonization, do it as fast as you can.
this is to make sure nothing else can compete with the mycelium for the uncolonized substrate.
now this is why the drying out is a moot point for a dunk and roll...
assuming it doesnt dry out _before_ 100% colonization (which is unlikely from just a couple holes), you're going to rehydrate it when you dunk it anyway. so long as it stays within the parameters of safe moisture content for colonization, it wont matter how dry it is when its finally done colonizing.
-jb
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Magash
Da Bud Guru
Registered: 07/25/02
Posts: 5,876
Loc: Near Hilo
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Re: To retape or not to retape, that is the question. [Re: TheGanjaGorilla]
#1956092 - 09/26/03 11:38 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I like to leave the tape on for the first two weeks then take it off and they usually finish up in about another week, but I?m buzzed what do I know.
Buds are nice.
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Hertyar
The guy nextdoor
Registered: 09/12/03
Posts: 106
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Re: To retape or not to retape, that is the question. [Re: Magash]
#1956170 - 09/27/03 12:16 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Magash said:
I like to leave the tape on for the first two weeks then take it off and they usually finish up in about another week, but I'm buzzed what do I know.
Do you also remove the tinfoil???
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Magash
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Re: To retape or not to retape, that is the question. [Re: Hertyar]
#1956176 - 09/27/03 12:18 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't use it at all.
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Psilopleix
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Registered: 11/03/03
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Re: To retape or not to retape, that is the question. [Re: Hertyar]
#1956179 - 09/27/03 12:19 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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if your using tinfoil dont remove it plz.
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TheGanjaGorilla
Shiitake head
Registered: 11/20/02
Posts: 185
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 Re: To retape or not to retape, that is the question. [Re: Psilopleix]
#1956243 - 09/27/03 12:43 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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 No tape it is.
Thanks everyone.
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"Whateva, I do what I want..." Eric Cartman
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Hanky
wiffle bat.
Registered: 08/30/03
Posts: 56,993
Loc: Great Southern Land.
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Re: To retape or not to retape, that is the question. [Re: TheGanjaGorilla]
#1956789 - 09/27/03 08:44 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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i only use tin foil over wide mouth mason jars,no tape on the holes.
i remove the foil when i flip them.
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Hertyar
The guy nextdoor
Registered: 09/12/03
Posts: 106
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Re: To retape or not to retape, that is the question. [Re: Hanky]
#1956861 - 09/27/03 09:53 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Are you removing the tape after a certain level of growth or does the tape come off after two weeks no matter were the mycelium is in it's development?
Thanks!
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CoolBlue
n00b
Registered: 09/16/03
Posts: 619
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Re: To retape or not to retape, that is the question. [Re: Hertyar]
#1957341 - 09/27/03 02:04 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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magash is the man all most bow before his glory 
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TheGanjaGorilla
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 Jar update..... [Re: CoolBlue]
#1959766 - 09/28/03 01:43 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh man, oh man, my  FOAF slow jar is lookin GREAT!! After removing the tape from only one hole, and placing a coffee filter over the lid, the growth in the jar has increased by 2/3s in just 4 days.  
Only the bottom left to go.....Thanks again everyone.
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Magash
Da Bud Guru
Registered: 07/25/02
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Loc: Near Hilo
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Been using them coffee filters for a ling time. No real need to but what the hell makes for a good dust cover.
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KentuckyPWRLFTR
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Registered: 09/11/03
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Re: Jar update..... [Re: Magash]
#1989832 - 10/08/03 11:19 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Magash and others:
Do you rubber band the coffee filters on after removing the tape? I assume flipping the jar is neither desired nor needed if you remove tape and put on the coffee filter, eh? Tomorrow morning will be two weeks for mine, so I guess I'll go with this...
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Magash
Da Bud Guru
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Loc: Near Hilo
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The filter is not needed. I use it mainly just as a dust cover.
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zPhar
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Registered: 10/07/03
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Re: Jar update..... [Re: Magash]
#1990028 - 10/08/03 12:39 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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dust cover... lol..
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etard
etheonogenesis
Registered: 06/10/03
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Loc: Wisconsin
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Re: Jar update..... [Re: zPhar]
#1990376 - 10/08/03 02:33 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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All this talk! It makes me excited for my FOAF's jars! He messed up a couple of jar because he was unfamiliar with a PC, so they were a little over wet, but even they are doing alright!
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triplethreat
newbie
Registered: 10/07/03
Posts: 32
Loc: NJ
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Re: Jar update..... [Re: Magash]
#1990655 - 10/08/03 04:25 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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What kind of tape should I use to cover my holes?
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Segabo
journeyman
Registered: 10/08/03
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How do you get a bottom left corner in a round jar?
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Smaug
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Re: Jar update..... [Re: Segabo]
#1991088 - 10/08/03 07:08 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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The spore solution drips down the side of the jar...
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