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13shrooms
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new species - the Rogue Mushroom - 1st underwater mushroom
#19557071 - 02/12/14 12:46 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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http://www.opb.org/television/programs/ofg/segment/mushrooms/
the first ever gilled underwater mushroom - the rogue mushroom 
thought Id share this info
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Re: new species - the Rogue Mushroom - 1st underwater mushroom [Re: 13shrooms]
#19557100 - 02/12/14 12:54 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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We get posts with that underwater Psathyrella approximately once a month. It's been going around for years now. Cool one nonetheless!
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13shrooms
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Re: new species - the Rogue Mushroom - 1st underwater mushroom [Re: Tangich]
#19557153 - 02/12/14 01:11 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: new species - the Rogue Mushroom - 1st underwater mushroom [Re: 13shrooms]
#19557216 - 02/12/14 01:29 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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The first mention of this species I can find is here but the article is missing, The species must have first been documented around January of 2008. http://www.cryptozoonews.com/uw-mushrm/
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Re: new species - the Rogue Mushroom - 1st underwater mushroom [Re: 13shrooms]
#19557347 - 02/12/14 02:05 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: new species - the Rogue Mushroom - 1st underwater mushroom [Re: Byrain]
#19557430 - 02/12/14 02:23 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Have you noticed that there is an air bubble around the gills in all these pictures?- I wonder if it serves any function  Wouldn't the spores only go downstream? Next time I'm in the area I'll try to find some of these. I hope I can get a picture without an underwater camera.
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Re: new species - the Rogue Mushroom - 1st underwater mushroom [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#19557666 - 02/12/14 03:18 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just spitballing, but perhaps the bubbles protect the gills from the water so that immature spores and basidia aren't washed away. Could also be to allow the spores to be ejected.
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Byrain

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Re: new species - the Rogue Mushroom - 1st underwater mushroom [Re: raceme]
#19557678 - 02/12/14 03:20 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think that is the reason I recall reading, but I can't remember where right now. Probably in the article that described it.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: new species - the Rogue Mushroom - 1st underwater mushroom [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#19558396 - 02/12/14 05:52 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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maynardjameskeenan said: Wouldn't the spores only go downstream?
Yes, but this species also fruits outside of water. No one has ever found it there, but when cultivated in the lab, this species looks like Psathyrella gracilis.
I've invited one of the coauthors of the P. aquatica paper to the spring shroomery gathering, hope he makes it. He went a couple years ago.
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Byrain

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Re: new species - the Rogue Mushroom - 1st underwater mushroom [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#19558606 - 02/12/14 06:42 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: this species looks like Psathyrella gracilis.
As do a few dozen+ other species...
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Re: new species - the Rogue Mushroom - 1st underwater mushroom [Re: Byrain]
#19558750 - 02/12/14 07:15 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I didn't know it had already been cultivated! Is there any chance there was a write up on the grow?
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nomadbrad
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Re: new species - the Rogue Mushroom - 1st underwater mushroom [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#19558761 - 02/12/14 07:17 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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maynardjameskeenan said: I hope I can get a picture without an underwater camera.
I got you covered dude, if I'm not with you I'll let you borrow my Pentax.
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Re: new species - the Rogue Mushroom - 1st underwater mushroom [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#19558800 - 02/12/14 07:26 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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maynardjameskeenan said: Have you noticed that there is an air bubble around the gills in all these pictures?- I wonder if it serves any function  Wouldn't the spores only go downstream? Next time I'm in the area I'll try to find some of these. I hope I can get a picture without an underwater camera.
There's an article in the latest FungiMag about bugs dispersing the spores. I think they mentioned the gas bubbles in there too but I can't remember why exactly.
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Re: new species - the Rogue Mushroom - 1st underwater mushroom [Re: Ran-D]
#19559075 - 02/12/14 08:24 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I figured the air bubbles were like that water spider that keeps a bubble to breath in on his abdomen. the fungi just "breaths"/absorbs the oxygen it needs through the myc network that makes up the fruitbody.. just speculation on my part though.
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Re: new species - the Rogue Mushroom - 1st underwater mushroom [Re: 13shrooms]
#19559342 - 02/12/14 09:25 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Very interesting. It makes me wish it wasn't winter so i can go mushroom hunting.
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Re: new species - the Rogue Mushroom - 1st underwater mushroom [Re: nomadbrad]
#19559673 - 02/12/14 11:02 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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nomadbrad said: Is there any chance there was a write up on the grow?
He told me he had a paper in publication about the cultivation of Psathyrella aquatica a couple years ago, I haven't seen it yet.
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Re: new species - the Rogue Mushroom - 1st underwater mushroom [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#19560493 - 02/13/14 07:54 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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maynardjameskeenan said: Have you noticed that there is an air bubble around the gills in all these pictures?- I wonder if it serves any function 
From here:
"Water constrains spore dispersal. Spores were observed as wedge-shaped rafts released into a gas pocket under the cap."
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Re: new species - the Rogue Mushroom - 1st underwater mushroom [Re: Anglerfish]
#19561276 - 02/13/14 12:01 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Love this little mushroom!! Good luck Maynard! I really hope you get to find some!!
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