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Re: Iso alcohol 91% extraction result [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19554646 - 02/11/14 09:29 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Has anybody ever tried an acid base extraction on mushrooms?



Sure if mushrooms had a molecule you wanted a freebase form of, but they don't :shrug:




True that makes sense. What about HCL? psilocybin/psilocin HCL. Now that would be awesome..

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Re: Iso alcohol 91% extraction result [Re: entheogenicmedic]
    #19554661 - 02/11/14 09:32 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Why would psilocin hcl be any better? That is a genuine question, I'm very curious to see your reasoning.


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Re: Iso alcohol 91% extraction result [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19554671 - 02/11/14 09:36 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Not implying it would be better, just implying it would be cool. I would love to have a small amount of white powder/crystal that came from mushrooms if that was at all possible. Just trying to think outside the box. :pipesmoke:

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Re: Iso alcohol 91% extraction result [Re: entheogenicmedic]
    #19554685 - 02/11/14 09:40 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Not implying it would be better, just implying it would be cool. I would love to have a small amount of white powder/crystal that came from mushrooms if that was at all possible. Just trying to think outside the box. :pipesmoke:



I have to agree, it would be cool and I am all for thinking outside the box!


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Re: Iso alcohol 91% extraction result [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19554687 - 02/11/14 09:41 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Just posting to see about his report in the morning. This should be interesting.
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Re: Iso alcohol 91% extraction result [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19554724 - 02/11/14 09:52 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Well a shot is about 44ml and my math showed that you would get an eighth from 30ml without taking into considerations that you're using aborts. I divided 500ml by 58.5 grams to get 8.55 ml/gram. Then I multiplied that by 3.5, the average dose in grams, to get almost exactly 30ml. If a shot is 44ml then you're looking at about a 5 gram dose by my calculations. If that's wrong please tell me where, I'm just trying to make sure you don't accidentally give yourself a heroic dose. Haha.



oh yah. that sounds rite. I have no fear of high doses. chances are ill drink the whole thing in one night with 3 or 4 friends.


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Re: Iso alcohol 91% extraction result [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19555969 - 02/12/14 04:43 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Haha. Sweet Jesus, a 20 gram trip. :trippnballs:


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Re: Iso alcohol 91% extraction result [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19560469 - 02/13/14 07:40 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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(While methanol and ISO don't seem to need water, they found extraction drops to almost 0 when pure ethanol is used, with the best ratio at around 70% ethanol to water.)



That just made my day! I've been trying to get 95% alcohol out of my still with some difficulty for tinctures, but 70% alcohol is child's play! I've got this!




Are you using a reflux or pot still? If you use a reflux, try adding a thumper, you'll get 90%-95% first run. If It's a pot still, just add 2 thumpers with a hot plate under the first. :thumbup:


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Re: Iso alcohol 91% extraction result [Re: Zenlykos]
    #19560563 - 02/13/14 08:30 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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(While methanol and ISO don't seem to need water, they found extraction drops to almost 0 when pure ethanol is used, with the best ratio at around 70% ethanol to water.)



That just made my day! I've been trying to get 95% alcohol out of my still with some difficulty for tinctures, but 70% alcohol is child's play! I've got this!




Are you using a reflux or pot still? If you use a reflux, try adding a thumper, you'll get 90%-95% first run. If It's a pot still, just add 2 thumpers with a hot plate under the first. :thumbup:



A reflux still, thanks! That's a great idea!


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Re: Iso alcohol 91% extraction result [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19560631 - 02/13/14 09:01 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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(While methanol and ISO don't seem to need water, they found extraction drops to almost 0 when pure ethanol is used, with the best ratio at around 70% ethanol to water.)



That just made my day! I've been trying to get 95% alcohol out of my still with some difficulty for tinctures, but 70% alcohol is child's play! I've got this!




Are you using a reflux or pot still? If you use a reflux, try adding a thumper, you'll get 90%-95% first run. If It's a pot still, just add 2 thumpers with a hot plate under the first. :thumbup:



A reflux still, thanks! That's a great idea!




Glad I could help. If you need a good thumper design let me. plus when you're not using it for your still, it makes a great water bong!


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Re: Iso alcohol 91% extraction result [Re: Zenlykos]
    #19560634 - 02/13/14 09:02 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Haha. That's funny, I do totally need a design, I can't find a good one anywhere.


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Re: Iso alcohol 91% extraction result [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19560645 - 02/13/14 09:06 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

lmao that be one hell of a fuckin bong


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Re: Iso alcohol 91% extraction result [Re: DannyDGAF]
    #19560739 - 02/13/14 09:38 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Here's the thumper in bong form. just remove the bowl head and run it to your still. Use 1/4" OD copper tubing for the whole thing including the thumper out. I'd recommend a condenser coil after the thumper as well, and a temp probe on the lid of the jar. This set-up uses a 1/2 gal jar but any size should work, just load it up a little past the coil with at least 70% alcohol.



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Re: Iso alcohol 91% extraction result [Re: Zenlykos]
    #19560849 - 02/13/14 10:14 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

That seems like an awesome way to make bong water liquor. Hahaha. I'll be doing this tonight, is there any reason for the coil within the jar? It seems unnecessary, but what do I know. Haha. Do you run the still without a the Liebig condenser running so that it puts hot vapor into the thumper or do you want cold alcohol running into it?


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Re: Iso alcohol 91% extraction result [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19560971 - 02/13/14 10:53 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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That seems like an awesome way to make bong water liquor. Hahaha. I'll be doing this tonight, is there any reason for the coil within the jar? It seems unnecessary, but what do I know. Haha. Do you run the still without a the Liebig condenser running so that it puts hot vapor into the thumper or do you want cold alcohol running into it?




The coil in the jar is to help transfer heat from the vapor to the thumper before it enters the alcohol in the thumper. This design allows you to use a liebig condenser as your fine tune temperature control. reduce flow to the liebig and the temps in the thumper will rise to the desired level. But note that the condenser before the thumper is only used to keep the temps from running up too fast. If you choose to use the thumper right off the top of your column, make sure to start slow as the pressure from the coil in the thumper will make your column run much hotter faster.

I came up with this design to be used with a pot still with a condenser after the thumper to make it cost effective for cheap skates like me. or a reflux column for those with more money to throw around.

Also any alcohol left over in the thumper after a run will have a higher content of flavorings and impurities, and since I like to distill the excess wine I make, I get a much higher concentration of delicious flavors in the thumper.

And for any of you who want to know what this design has to do with mushrooms: You can add a reflux column with psilo contain mushroom matter to the thumper, and have psilo containing thumper juice after a distillation run.


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Re: Iso alcohol 91% extraction result [Re: Zenlykos]
    #19561080 - 02/13/14 11:16 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Gotcha, awesome information man! Normally my condenser can cool the vapors down to room temperature so I'll have to run the pump a lot slower or intermittently. This is a great concept and it also seems like a great way to make gin which I've wanted to do for a while now. Thanks a ton, this is awesome!


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Re: Iso alcohol 91% extraction result [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19561166 - 02/13/14 11:32 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Just run your condenser after the thumper. unless you have two condensers. What are you using in your reflux column?

Glad I could help! :thumbup:


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Re: Iso alcohol 91% extraction result [Re: Zenlykos]
    #19561363 - 02/13/14 12:24 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I have a 4 or so foot tall column packed with pot scrubbers with a reflux condenser at the top and a leibig condenser soldered at the top of it. Unfortunetly I couldn't really move the Liebig condenser without totally screwing it up, so I'll just keep it off when I run the thumper and use a different condenser.


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Re: Iso alcohol 91% extraction result [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19561477 - 02/13/14 12:51 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I've always had trouble with pot scrubbers in a column. I always ended up with inconsistent flow. I swear by glass marbles now, and they are easier by far to rinse clean after a run. Good luck!


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Re: Iso alcohol 91% extraction result [Re: Zenlykos]
    #19561506 - 02/13/14 12:57 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

That's a ton of glass marbles! Haha.


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