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OfflineLearyfan
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Where is this video tape!?
    #1953839 - 09/26/03 10:55 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, stop me if you've heard this one before.

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"Pilger uncovered video footage of Powell in Cairo on February 24, 2001 saying, "He (Saddam Hussein) has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbours."


I WANT TO SEE THIS TAPE. If it truely does exist and is exposed then this could be a MAJOR blow to Bush and company.




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Re: Where is this video tape!? [Re: Learyfan]
    #1954228 - 09/26/03 02:02 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Nobody thought it was interesting that there may be a video tape out there of Colon Powell in 2001 stating that Iraq didn't pose a threat to his neighbors, let alone anyone else?





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Re: Where is this video tape!? [Re: Learyfan]
    #1954259 - 09/26/03 02:13 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I've been looking for that documentary (I missed ITV's showing) for the last few days. I'll let you know if I come across it.


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Re: Where is this video tape!? [Re: Learyfan]
    #1954288 - 09/26/03 02:25 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

No, sorry, its not that interesting...
It is obvious your governments blatant lies and deception, america doesn't want truth, and such a tape would fall on deaf ears.  The only ppl i ever hear to say something positive about bush and america since afganistan are....well....americans. :noway:


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Re: Where is this video tape!? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1954305 - 09/26/03 02:30 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i think you misunderestimate the american people. the reality that bush and co. misrepresented themselves about the weapons is hitting more people square in the face every day.


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Re: Where is this video tape!? [Re: ]
    #1954413 - 09/26/03 03:02 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

That is good to hear then... :thumbup:

Its almost as if the media is trying to convince the majority of people that the majority already supports things that they don't...thus employing an almost herd-like mentality.


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Re: Where is this video tape!? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1954729 - 09/26/03 04:49 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Azmodeus said:
No, sorry, its not that interesting...
It is obvious your governments blatant lies and deception, america doesn't want truth, and such a tape would fall on deaf ears.  The only ppl i ever hear to say something positive about bush and america since afganistan are....well....americans. :noway: 




Buh?


 


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Re: Where is this video tape!? [Re: Learyfan]
    #1954741 - 09/26/03 04:55 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I saw the documentary. It was fantastic. Powell and Rice were both shown effectively dismissing Iraq as a threat. Dont think they will be showing it on Fox anytime soon! You would think it would be big news but I havent heard anything else about it over here.

He also interviewed Doug Feith, John Bolton and William Kristol. John Bolton asked him if he was a member of the communist party and the interview with Feith was stopped when Pilger had him in knots over civillian casualties in Afghanistan and Iraq. Feith wouldnt accept that more innocent people have died in Afghanistan and Iraq than died on 9/11!! Then a colnel in the background stepped in and ordered the camera turned off.


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Re: Where is this video tape!? [Re: Learyfan]
    #1954744 - 09/26/03 04:56 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

The tape exists. I saw it on National television last night.


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Re: Where is this video tape!? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1954751 - 09/26/03 04:58 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

What did they make of it?


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Re: Where is this video tape!? [Re: Learyfan]
    #1954775 - 09/26/03 05:06 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Learyfan said:
Buh?




i meant such a tape isn't required to see iraq had no comprehensible wmd programe active in 2001.


Quote:

Learyfan said:




^^^ i like that one...


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Re: Where is this video tape!? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1954788 - 09/26/03 05:10 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:



^^^ i like that one... 




Needs a quote to go with it :smile:

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has 'closed', the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. AND I AM CAESAR." --Julius Caesar 

Edit:  I should add that this is attributed to Caesar.


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In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.


Edited by Edame (09/26/03 05:15 PM)


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Re: Where is this video tape!? [Re: Edame]
    #1954792 - 09/26/03 05:13 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

ah, yes!...perfect. :smile:


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Re: Where is this video tape!? [Re: Edame]
    #1954814 - 09/26/03 05:18 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Edame said:
Quote:



^^^ i like that one... 




Needs a quote to go with it :smile:

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has 'closed', the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. AND I AM CAESAR." --Julius Caesar 




:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


So if this was shown on National TV like BH said, WHY THE FUCK ISN'T THIS A HUGE FUCKING DEAL!??!?! Is this not basically video tape evidence(the only kind Bush supporters would accept) that the war was a sham?



 


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Re: Where is this video tape!? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1954822 - 09/26/03 05:20 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

^^^
Quote:

Azmodeus said:
It is obvious your governments blatant lies and deception, america doesn't want truth, and such a tape would fall on deaf ears.




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Re: Where is this video tape!? [Re: Learyfan]
    #1954839 - 09/26/03 05:26 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Bush basically shrugged it off saying that he said that before 9/11 and there was a major reassessment made of the situation after that.--The end.



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Re: Where is this video tape!? [Re: Edame]
    #1954846 - 09/26/03 05:27 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

you should have said...

it needs a made up quote to go with it

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl-caesar-quote.htm

It's odd, to say the least, to encounter a passage attributed to Julius Caesar which, as far as I can tell, never appeared in print before 2001. It's equally odd that while the passage is cited in dozens of Internet discussions concerning post-9/11 political developments, it never turns up in articles on Julius Caesar himself. If it is to be found among his own writings, no one has yet been able to pinpoint where.

It has also been attributed (most famously by a red-faced Barbra Streisand) to William Shakespeare, who presumably would have composed the lines for his historical play, "Julius Caesar" ? but they're nowhere to be found there, either. Apart from one small phrase, "And I am Caesar," which vaguely echoes the closing words of a couplet in the play ("I rather tell thee what is to be fear'd / Than what I fear; for always I am Caesar."), the language is anachronistic and distinctly un-Shakespearean. The words "patriotism" and "citizenry" were unknown in Elizabethan England. The Bard's Julius Caesar spoke in iambic pentameter, not mediocre prose.

Short of the culprit stepping forward, there's little likelihood of ascertaining who did write this politically convenient baloney, but we know it wasn't Shakespeare and we can be reasonably sure it wasn't Julius Caesar. It does, however, bear all the markings of a "classic" Internet hoax.



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Re: Where is this video tape!? [Re: afoaf]
    #1954851 - 09/26/03 05:29 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

That's why I edited it a few minutes later to say that it's attributed to him :smile:


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In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.


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Re: Where is this video tape!? [Re: Edame]
    #1954867 - 09/26/03 05:33 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

it's a good quote, don't get me wrong, but this is the
sort of unfounded b.s. that gets people's knickers all
in a twist...you know?

meh.


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Re: Where is this video tape!? [Re: afoaf]
    #1954886 - 09/26/03 05:38 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

yeah I know what you mean, just seemed appropriate given Learyfan's image.  I happened to be reading another discussion where it had been quoted.  I learned a new word for my troubles though.  Apocryphal. :smirk: 


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In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.


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