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InvisibleHanky
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H2O2 question
    #1953357 - 09/26/03 04:45 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i am dunking/cold shocking the first of a dozen cakes.
i mixed spring h2o2 with water, 200ml to 5 liters.
i put the cake in a zip-lock bag and added the h2o2 solution.
the peroxide reacted strongly with the cake for a minute or 2 (fizzing) is this normal?


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Re: H2O2 question [Re: Hanky]
    #1953378 - 09/26/03 05:02 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Thats not good dude, why did you dunk with hydrogen peroxide. Good luck, I think you fucked yourself and used to much hydrogen peroxide if it fizzed.


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Re: H2O2 question [Re: DatDaNK420]
    #1953393 - 09/26/03 05:18 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

200ml to 5 litres works out to a ratio of 25 to 1,much less than people use for misting or to wet their perlite.
i used peroxide in my dunking water to reduce the risk of contams while birthing.i'm not the first to do this.


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Re: H2O2 question [Re: Hanky]
    #1953401 - 09/26/03 05:25 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Dude if your using bottled water WTF is the point?


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Re: H2O2 question [Re: DatDaNK420]
    #1953403 - 09/26/03 05:28 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

the point is to kill any endospores that might come into contact with the cake during exposure to air during birthing.


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Re: H2O2 question [Re: Hanky]
    #1953456 - 09/26/03 06:21 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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the point is to kill any endospores that might come into contact with the cake during exposure to air during birthing.




hey hank i hope you didnt fuck it up with over kill man,did they go blue? ive dunked in tap water knowing that it has chlorine in it.
i think they'll be alright tho they just might be slower or something,goodluck!


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Re: H2O2 question [Re: Hanky]
    #1953467 - 09/26/03 06:28 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Hanky, I wouldn't bother doing that. Aussie tap water is ok. Besides, colonised cakes are generally safe from contams (provided all the BRF/verm was colonised).

I've dunked cakes under water for 12 hours and then injected neat tap water into the cakes before putting to a fruit chamber. No contams.

That H2O2 dunk will slow down the cakes you've got, so they'll be set back on fruiting.


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Re: H2O2 question [Re: ]
    #1953468 - 09/26/03 06:30 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

it didn't go blue and it looks fine now,i thought i'd screwed up and had to go serching for posts that confirmed that other people have done h2o2 dunks,i used a weaker dilution than is recommended so i think everything will be fine.


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Re: H2O2 question [Re: Starter]
    #1953470 - 09/26/03 06:31 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i'll dunk all the rest in straight water...and i'll post the difference.


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Re: H2O2 question [Re: Hanky]
    #1953471 - 09/26/03 06:33 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Don't forget to roll them in dry vermiculite, case top and bottom and then spray in tap water...get the vital wet stuff up. :smile:


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Re: H2O2 question [Re: Starter]
    #1953483 - 09/26/03 06:47 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i have a pint of pc'd wet verm for the end casings and a bag of fresh verm to roll in.....but i didn't think of spraying,thanks starter.
ps the aussie print is next inline. :smile:


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Re: H2O2 question [Re: Hanky]
    #1953486 - 09/26/03 06:52 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

That sounds good and good going too on the print/grow.

btw, I'd upload some pics of "rolled-in-verm-cakes" to "not-rolled-in-verm-cakes", but using the kb's atm to upload poppy/opium pics, but believe me the cakes rolled in dry-verm and sprayed give more booty. :smile:


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Re: H2O2 question [Re: Starter]
    #1953492 - 09/26/03 06:58 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

that sounds cool.i'd like to see those pics when you have more kb's to burn....i'm going to grow the aussies using your rez-tek method....seems fitting.


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Re: H2O2 question [Re: Hanky]
    #1953690 - 09/26/03 09:29 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I used h2o2 many times after cleaning the contams ;first everything psssssss and then in three days or so fruiting starts,however,it's possible that I was too lucky.peace.


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Re: H2O2 question [Re: stara]
    #1953751 - 09/26/03 09:59 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

hmmmm from what i've read tonight after thinking i'd read wrong previously,theres nothing wrong with a h2o2 dunk,it might slow things down by a day or so but it wont kill the myc'.
but it will certainly kill any contam spores.


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Re: H2O2 question [Re: Hanky]
    #1953758 - 09/26/03 10:05 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

just use a few glugs when you dunk you should be fine


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Re: H2O2 question [Re: mikey]
    #1953760 - 09/26/03 10:06 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

yeah i used a 25/1 ratio....i'm sure it will be sweet.


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Re: H2O2 question [Re: Hanky]
    #1953781 - 09/26/03 10:20 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Its should also be noted that h2o2 solution comes in a number of different strengths, I think most references are to 3% solution, but what I get over the counter here is typically 6%. About 5ml of 3% (10 volume) per liter is about the lowest effective dosage, and would be about right for Agar, you can use slightly stronger for misting, and stronger still for the bottom of the terrarium I use about 8ml (3%) per liter.

Dr. R. Rush Wayne's guide has pretty much the total lowdown on h2o2.


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Re: H2O2 question [Re: psilomonkey]
    #1955460 - 09/26/03 08:22 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I was gonna ask this myself psilomonkey....how strong was your h202? cause most use 3% diluted 10:1 with water....I use h202 all the time and I've never seen the fizzing reaction some talk about


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Re: H2O2 question [Re: ]
    #1955467 - 09/26/03 08:26 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I've seen it fizz. It fizzes whenever it finds something to kill. Just like pouring it on a wound.


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