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InvisibleHugeShroom
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Re: DMT trip report: felt like I remembered that I died [Re: Eggtimer]
    #28331347 - 05/23/23 01:36 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

do think it's wise to always see everything from gods perspective?


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Re: DMT trip report: felt like I remembered that I died [Re: HugeShroom]
    #28331656 - 05/23/23 05:30 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

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HugeShroom said:
do think it's wise to always see everything from gods perspective?



My concept would be we are already in the perspective just believing we are only these limited personalities. That's the game we can stay in as long as we want.

It is down to each person to make the choice if it appeals to us.
If it doesn't have appeal then no one is required to adopt this viewpoint it works even if you never speak of it.

If you de-condition yourself to the "god/source" level then play as a human you avoid suffering from ego and by seeing every human around you as THAT you can give them the freedom to "come out and play" so to speak and step out of their conditioning. If we don't have the idea in our head "oh they aren't like me they aren't my people" you can start feeling "home/free" anywhere you are. Even people you thought you knew might start acting in new ways.

When you don't catch people in your conditioning and they don't catch you in theirs you are free to be yourself absolutely. You don't get rid of or kill your ego you just start to know beyond a doubt that you ultimately aren't that nor are those around you theirs. It is a contagious sort of thing. It can be done right where you are now and just requires a little bit of quietness a few times a day just to reflect and remember.

There's no goal even, nothing changes, there's no achievement life goes on just as before but you carry less of a load.


This is a poem to Kali by a bhakti named Ramakrishna. Bhaktis are devotees of their form of "god" and Jnanas are knowers of "god". Both systems go together well but all this is just another concept at the end of the day. Awareness has no creed, race, or religion.   
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In the world's busy marketplace, O Syama, Thou art flying kites;

High up they soar on the wind of hope, held fast by maya's string.

Their frames are human skeletons, their sails of the three gunas made;

But all their curious workmanship is merely for ornament.

Upon the kite-strings Thou hast rubbed the manja-paste of worldliness,

So as to make each straining strand all the more sharp and strong.

Out of a hundred thousand kites, at best but one or two break free;

And Thou dost laugh and clap Thy hands, O Mother, watching them!

On favouring winds, says Ramprasad, the kites set loose will speedily

Be borne away to the Infinite, across the sea of the world.

The Master said: "The Divine Mother is always playful and sportive. This universe is Her play. She is self-willed and must always have Her own way. She is full of bliss. She gives freedom to one out of a hundred thousand."

A BRAHMO DEVOTEE: "But, sir, if She likes, She can give freedom to all. Why, then, has She kept us bound to the world?"

MASTER: "That is Her will. She wants to continue playing with Her created beings. In a game of hide-and-seek the running about soon stops if in the beginning all the players touch the 'granny'. If all touch her, then how can the game go on? That displeases her.

Her pleasure is in continuing the game. Therefore the poet said: Out of a hundred thousand kites, at best but one or two break free;

And Thou dost laugh and clap Thy hands, O Mother, watching them!




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Re: DMT trip report: felt like I remembered that I died [Re: Eggtimer] * 1
    #28332118 - 05/24/23 06:20 AM (8 months, 1 day ago)

But, sir, if She likes, She can give freedom to all. Why, then, has She kept us bound to the world?

This reminds me of the question why god creates suffering in this world. I watched a video once from actualized.org and from Leo's point of view god is all creating and all loving so god has to embrace everything in a certain sense as it is. Humans though can't love everything. Their capacity for love is very limited. Humans hate certain things and love others. Of course: Just another concept. But I feel like certain words just feel right to some extend.

What I find strange is that certain battle of the following concepts. One being that god is separate entity from you which is I guess a believe that is present in all abrahamic religions (correct me if I'm wrong) And then the notion of god being one with you, which is present for example in buddhism (correct me if I'm wrong) I find it almost impossible to convince myself or even others that any of these concepts are true, and then again there's probably not much of an importance in doing so.


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Re: DMT trip report: felt like I remembered that I died [Re: HugeShroom] * 1
    #28332256 - 05/24/23 08:40 AM (8 months, 1 day ago)

The original post here is from many years ago and is about accepting a death in a DMT trip. I view this as a Buddha experience. Buddha detached from all including his wife and son. In the DMT death we cling to our loved ones. Some of us can surrender and detach for the DMT death. Others of us cling to our role and our loved ones.

Life is strange. Some believe man is good and society corrupts man. Others believe man is evil and society makes man good. Some believe nature is good and man must align himself with nature. Others believe nature is broken and man must fix nature. Some believe god is our superior and we must serve god. Others believe we are god and must realize all is god.

I feel god is everything like the yin yang symbol. It is all duality. It can all be reduced to the unity of god. So suffering and evil is just the other side of the coin but still god.


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Can anyone get me some real info [Re: Soul Flight]
    #28336029 - 05/26/23 07:47 PM (7 months, 29 days ago)

I have been a long time mushroom and lsd user, ive tried salvia a few times. I am really wanting to try DMT, but i have no connections to anyone that knows anything about it. Ill try not to ask for specifics but is there any state in the us that i can get it legally in, Colorado ?? Oregon?? new Mexico? or any place that is trustworthy enough to get it from online? ... I have to try it and i would drive across the country if necessary, but ill take any help i can get. Please


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Re: DMT trip report: felt like I remembered that I died [Re: HugeShroom]
    #28337154 - 05/27/23 03:48 PM (7 months, 28 days ago)

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HugeShroom said:
But, sir, if She likes, She can give freedom to all. Why, then, has She kept us bound to the world?

This reminds me of the question why god creates suffering in this world. I watched a video once from actualized.org and from Leo's point of view god is all creating and all loving so god has to embrace everything in a certain sense as it is. Humans though can't love everything. Their capacity for love is very limited. Humans hate certain things and love others. Of course: Just another concept. But I feel like certain words just feel right to some extend.

What I find strange is that certain battle of the following concepts. One being that god is separate entity from you which is I guess a believe that is present in all abrahamic religions (correct me if I'm wrong) And then the notion of god being one with you, which is present for example in buddhism (correct me if I'm wrong) I find it almost impossible to convince myself or even others that any of these concepts are true, and then again there's probably not much of an importance in doing so.




Really no belief matters. No belief can help anyone. The only thing is living joyfully no matter what's around and happening inside and out. The sorrows and pleasures of the personality is a passing show we watch them come and go. Do what we must in the world but try not to see "evil" as being out there or in "them". There is no them it's all us. Light goes into your eyes turns into a current in the brain center and this constructs our reality. Really we only see our visual center in our brain appearing as the external world/beings. What ever your internal environment is paints over a filter on everything that is coming thru the senses and the world seems that way for us. Don't believe anything not even this :lol:

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“The story’s like this: there’s a young woman who lives in the forest with her family–the next day she’s going to get married. So as it turned out today is the last time she has to go and check to make sure that all the arrangements are done. So she’s got her list. First the dressmaker, then the cake maker, then the priest, then her Beloved.

So she’s happy, happy, happy. She sets off on her path with all these appointments in her mind, she’s looking so much forward to today and tomorrow. And as she’s walking along very happily, through the forest, a lion or tiger, just steps out into the path. It’s never happened before, this lion is fierce looking and he just stands up in front of her like this and he’s as close as we are together like this, and she knows she can’t run. She just knows there’s no way you can get away, and this lion is just standing there like that looking at her, and she can feel its breath on her. And so in that instant when she sees the lion, the appointment with the dress maker who’s waiting for her — poof! Just vanish from her mind. And the next appointment with the cake maker, like — poof! It’s just gone. The appointment with the priest — poof! Everything is gone. Only her Beloved now, and in that instant — poof! He’s gone also. And for the first time, she’s totally empty. Empty, empty, empty.

So, I won’t speak anymore about the rest of the story, but Papaji said, ‘Welcome this lion on your path,’ and what it means is that whatever it is that puts an end to your projections about how life should be, welcome this lion, or this tiger on your path, because this one has come for you to wake up.”
– Mooji




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Re: DMT trip report: felt like I remembered that I died [Re: Eggtimer]
    #28366880 - 06/20/23 09:35 AM (7 months, 5 days ago)

Kind of sounds like you havent coms yo terms with death and it is something that scares you the most.


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Re: DMT trip report: felt like I remembered that I died [Re: thespacecadet]
    #28368715 - 06/21/23 12:52 PM (7 months, 3 days ago)

I think what happened is that you remembered that you have existed way before you got a body and saw that you exist without one. Not your body, not your personality. Just your self. Some would say that you saw basically what happens when you do die. Or what is going on before you are born.


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