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xBELLSPROUTx
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Re: First Grow (Log kinda) [Re: NitroCat]
#19459157 - 01/22/14 06:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Where did you get those jars I can't find them anywhere.
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BillNyeScienceGuy
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Re: First Grow (Log kinda) [Re: NitroCat]
#19460009 - 01/22/14 09:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just don't understand why you have a pic saying "after pressure cook too wet "with the top off the jars not in a SAB that just ruins the sterilization you just did most likely... and the tops of those jars with the tyvek and shit is so not needed for cakes like that.
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NitroCat
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Because I was in the process of throwing those unused materials in the trash. Hence why in the next few images is a trash can full of cakes and grain... I could have sworn I directly stated as much o,,o
The filters have preformed well when I didn't fuckup and soak them in the PC and there-by make them permeable to spores and other airborne contaminates. The tyvek being a fairly commonly used substitution for the normal, and at least equally delicate dry verm layer. (Citric's thread on the subject is the one I was initially utilizing as a reference, if you were curious.)
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xBELLSPROUTx said: Where did you get those jars I can't find them anywhere.
Amazon.com, I'm lazy D: I think I've seen em at target too
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Re: First Grow (Log kinda) [Re: NitroCat]
#19509642 - 02/02/14 06:37 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Pictureless update... Fruiting chamber going, smells so delicious I just want to eat the damned cakes. D:
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Re: First Grow (Log kinda) [Re: NitroCat]
#19509840 - 02/02/14 07:42 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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When doing up your brf jars, stick to the tek exactly. Drill the 4 holes in the lid with a dry verm layer for contams. No need for anything else. As for the tinfoil tek you're looking for, just tear off a square piece, wrap it over the top of the jar so the holes are covered, and squeeze it around the ring at the top...voila!
To eliminate your problems, eliminate the variables, keep it simple, like the tek
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Re: First Grow (Log kinda) [Re: 1down5up]
#19510182 - 02/02/14 09:51 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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You're getting your water penetration from the water level in your PC. You've got it up near the ring on your jars man. It's evident on your first page of pics. The one that shows the jars in the pc....the water is up past the foil. Bring the level just over the insert. You only have to PC them for like 15-30 mins i believe. I know you have to boil them for 90 mins, but a PC works quicker than boiling.
I think that will solve your moisture problem.
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Re: First Grow (Log kinda) [Re: 1down5up]
#19511003 - 02/02/14 01:04 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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You should PC brf jars for closer to an hour, but the jars should be elevated out of the water for sure.
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Re: First Grow (Log kinda) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19511091 - 02/02/14 01:23 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Thanks Pasty...couldn't remember the length of time
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Re: First Grow (Log kinda) [Re: 1down5up]
#19511453 - 02/02/14 02:35 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Okay, will drop the time. They're already well out of the water (Now), but I'll drop the water level as well, the PC is always ending with a decent puddle left so I can probably spare plenty of that.
The first page showing the actually filled PC was maaaasively overfilled, even by PC instructions for pressure canning. I lost sight of the fill line and didn't think anything was wrong with as sick as I was at the time (Internal infections fucking suck).
Also thinking I managed to get a postal envelope that wasn't even tyvek, so going to grab some polyfil/easyfelt or spring for SFDs if the budget looks right to fix up those jars. Also grabbed some fresh lids for other options, as well as a big ass bag of WBS. Looking at frank's methods at the moment for how to go about working with that.
I wish this had a few less large time gaps between seeing results and different work steps, I'd have already had a couple different method's tested and refined for pyrochemical stuff, but that entire hobby is normally cut to "Wait overnight" at the most, compared to "Wait a week and see how badly you cocked up". So that's taking a little mental adjustment compared to my last procedural based interest V:
Thanks for the advise peeps! Not trying to shove anyone off and you've all been helpful. Next time jars are ran I'll try and get a full pictorial of how everything is actually being done at the moment so we're not all discussing old information. Might also start a new thread merely because a lot of what I'm doing has changed compared to the first couple pages >_>
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Re: First Grow (Log kinda) [Re: NitroCat]
#19512079 - 02/02/14 04:53 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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I would use the info i got from the help in this thread to refine my current situation before i go spending more money on things to try another for the first time....just sayin'
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Re: First Grow (Log kinda) [Re: NitroCat]
#19537176 - 02/07/14 10:03 PM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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:effort: post, but yay!
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Re: First Grow (Log kinda) [Re: NitroCat]
#19537253 - 02/07/14 10:18 PM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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Trim your foil back. You want it to really just be enough to fit the cake on
Other than that congrats bro!
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Re: First Grow (Log kinda) [Re: NitroCat]
#19537303 - 02/07/14 10:27 PM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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Oh, easy enough to fix that :V Thanks
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Re: First Grow (Log kinda) [Re: NitroCat]
#19544260 - 02/09/14 02:56 PM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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Foil fixed, fruiter airflow massively improved, thanks!


teeny, tiny ones!
On the note of more :effort: posting, I was busy last night 
(Washing, was then transfered to my souppot)

Annnd hopefully these filters serve my a lot better than my postal maybe-tyvek ones did, a fuck of a lot easier to apply
Normal easy felt because thats what was in the budget, applied to both sides with gasket material, blahblahblah ^,,^
*ninja edit* There are more than those two cakes, they're just the ones that look impressive at the moment >_>
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Re: First Grow (Log kinda) [Re: NitroCat]
#19544331 - 02/09/14 03:16 PM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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Re: First Grow (Log kinda) [Re: cronicr]
#19545835 - 02/09/14 10:00 PM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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Well, first batch of WBS jars are cooling, bit worried the second batch is over hydrated but we'll see in a hour and a half or so 
The cakes are all showing decent growth, and the ones I'd crumbled to coir/verm are all starting to get nice and colonized
The new lids are so much nicer, I have a bad feeling that I was literally using waxed poster board D:
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Re: First Grow (Log kinda) [Re: NitroCat]
#19546599 - 02/10/14 05:09 AM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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Rolling the hot jars around helps dissipate the moisture a little. It's prob too late now, but you can keep it in mind for the next round...
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Re: First Grow (Log kinda) [Re: 1down5up]
#19546685 - 02/10/14 06:04 AM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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Already did, they're sticking slightly to the glass but don't seem overly clumped, we'll see in the morning I suppose if it's too damning I suppose.
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Re: First Grow (Log kinda) [Re: NitroCat]
#19546690 - 02/10/14 06:05 AM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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Mine were kinda the same man, they turned out ok, I'd hold out some hope yet
Now they look like this after 5 days.

EDIT: also, Frank has a link in his list of goodies about hydrating grains after they're colonized...so I'm guessing the colonization will eat up some of that moisture, provided they aren't too wet and clump, like you're saying, i think you're good.
-------------------- ~~Everything is relative~~ A Simplified Overview of Mushroom Cultivation Strategies - RR says - EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes - Frank's list of goodies - Cronicr's Goodies No one is placed higher than another no matter race or creed or gender, we must teach forgiveness and compassion for all life. J.L.
Edited by 1down5up (02/10/14 06:07 AM)
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