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OfflineYimereh
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First Timer: Colonization/Birthing Question
    #19495608 - 01/30/14 09:43 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Hello everyone this is my first post and my first grow and I have just a couple of questions regarding my next steps.

Unfortunately I don't have the ability to get pictures to aid so I'll do my absolute best to be as descriptive as possible in regards to my grow.(Please ask for any clarification if needed)

About my first grow:
I'm using the PF Tek(BRF) with drinking glasses(square with rounded corners) instead of the standard mason jars that are covered in foil. Colonization in one of these jars appeared to be complete last week minus parts of the bottom and I let them sit for the week as instructed. Yesterday I noticed the bottom still hadn't finished colonizing in some spots and decided to try introducing some more gas exchange to see if that was apart of the problem. The bottom hasn't shown any further signs of consolidation but the increase in GE has appeared to trigger knotting and pinning.

Another observation is that one side that has been colonized for sometime appears, by my untrained eye, to be rather weakly colonized. This side is very web like/stringy(not to be confused with cobweb mold). The other sides also have this characteristic but seem much more developed and "caked".

The increase in GE appears to have triggered pinning and knotting in the substrate and interestingly enough the side that appears weak has the most knotting and pinning(My guess is because it appears to be the side that peeled furthest from the glass).

Questions:

1) In regards to the uncolonized bottom I have read of a few strategies with mixed opinions. The first being to birth/dunk and remove uncolonized substrate, the other is to flip upside down and rest the cake on the dry verm layer to allow for the bottom to colonize. Just wondering if anyone has any opinions on the safer method or if there are any other methods that alluded my searching.

2) Should I be concerned by the "weaker" & stringier side when birthing(such as a possibility that it crumbles) and if so are there any strategies to help it colonized or actions I should take if it does slightly crumble(it hasn't shown any signs of strengthening in a week). I have read that looks can be deceiving and fully colonized mycelium has more of a hold than it appears but I'd obviously rather be safer than sorry.

The "weaker" side has lightly covered all of the substrate but the sub is still visible through the mycelium and isn't flush with the glass like the other sides. This side exhibits more dimension with various nooks and crannies.

Thank you in advance for your help. If I have been unclear in anyway do not hesitate to ask. I will do my absolute best to be as descriptive as possible.

Sorry for lacking pictures :frown:

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Re: First Timer: Colonization/Birthing Question [Re: Yimereh]
    #19495718 - 01/30/14 10:14 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Flipping the jar is counter productive and isn't general practice. Just wait for it to finish. Any Portion not colonized is very susceptible to contaminations. After it is visually done, wait another week for the center to finish.

The cake will be one solid piece when it's done.

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Re: First Timer: Colonization/Birthing Question [Re: lil_demented]
    #19495835 - 01/30/14 10:42 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you for your reply lil_demented! I suppose another concern I have is that, from what I have read, that knotting and pinning are generally signs that indicate the mycelium has completed its colonization or run into some sort of contaminant.

The bottom has some damp spots where the uncolonized parts are and they are rather sporadic. I plan on leaving them a couple more days to see if any further consolidation will occur but with the amount of knots I'm beginning to see I believe it is doubtful for this side to strengthen.

The bottom hasn't shown any noticeable signs of furthering consolidation while every other side has. I have done a smell test and nothing smells out of the ordinary. The one pin though does appear to be growing in the direction of the dry verm layer and that concerns me too.

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Re: First Timer: Colonization/Birthing Question [Re: Yimereh]
    #19498971 - 01/30/14 09:59 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Patience grasshopper. Lol

And condensation in the jar is normal.

Edited by lil_demented (01/30/14 10:00 PM)

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Re: First Timer: Colonization/Birthing Question [Re: lil_demented]
    #19499026 - 01/30/14 10:11 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I had a similar problem, and decided to just rinse off the uncolonized portions and spawn the rest to bulk coco/verm. They all smelled fine. It has been working out pretty well.:shrug:


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Re: First Timer: Colonization/Birthing Question [Re: Yimereh]
    #19499078 - 01/30/14 10:24 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I forgot to ask the OP how long since the knocked them up.  So how long has it been?

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Re: First Timer: Colonization/Birthing Question [Re: lil_demented]
    #19499132 - 01/30/14 10:40 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I understand your dilemma since pinning has started. If colonization time is normal it sounds like the bottom is compacted hence slow colonization.

I've had this and done the rinse, and I've had this and done the chop with a sanitized guitar string. Both worked, but are risky. the best thing to do is wait for 100% + 7 days.


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Re: First Timer: Colonization/Birthing Question [Re: Quexl]
    #19499212 - 01/30/14 11:05 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

don't ever bother to "chop" uncolonized parts off just rinse them under the faucet:thumbup:


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