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funton
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Does a harsh environment have any effect on potency?
#19496704 - 01/30/14 02:22 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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I recently got a flush of mushrooms off a cake that was grown in harsh conditions. If it was a child I would have been arrested for child abuse!
This cake was a write off from the start because it got contaminated with trich at the bottom of the jar so I moved it far far away somewhere else and put it in a PMP still in the jar just to see what happened. It was extremely dry and cold, didn't get much FAE or attention as I didn't see it sometimes for a day or two and stayed in the dark most of the time. It's in a non climate controlled room and some nights got close to freezing. The Shrooms looked dry and cracked here and there but none the less grew to decent size and matured.
Is it safe to say no matter the conditions it was in to get to a mature fruit that it should be just as potent and viable as say another fruit grown in 100% perfect conditions? (Assuming genetics and everything else is the same)
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Notfromarkansas
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Re: Does a harsh environment have any effect on potency? [Re: funton]
#19496722 - 01/30/14 02:24 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Usually results in less potency but not always. They can handle cold better than hot but ya send em to me and ill try em for you lol
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GimpCollector
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Re: Does a harsh environment have any effect on potency? [Re: funton] 1
#19496729 - 01/30/14 02:25 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Potency is determined by the genetics of the fruit. Just rinse them gently and dry them out, then you can chomp down.
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Notfromarkansas
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Re: Does a harsh environment have any effect on potency? [Re: GimpCollector]
#19496746 - 01/30/14 02:27 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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No because potency can be effected or affected idk im high but u get the point by enviroment or incorrect handling. Squeezing a fucking mushroom changes its psilocybin content. Google bra.
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Re: Does a harsh environment have any effect on potency? [Re: Notfromarkansas] 1
#19496761 - 01/30/14 02:30 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Notfromarkansas
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Re: Does a harsh environment have any effect on potency? [Re: cronicr]
#19496774 - 01/30/14 02:31 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lol sorry but i still say my point is valid enviroment can influence potency.
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GimpCollector
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Re: Does a harsh environment have any effect on potency? [Re: Notfromarkansas]
#19496784 - 01/30/14 02:33 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Notfromarkansas said: Lol sorry but i still say my point is valid enviroment can influence potency.
OK, I respect your beliefs.
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Notfromarkansas
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Re: Does a harsh environment have any effect on potency? [Re: Notfromarkansas]
#19496794 - 01/30/14 02:36 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you dont believe me grow some shrooms in direct sunlight and tell me how potent they are.
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GimpCollector
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Re: Does a harsh environment have any effect on potency? [Re: Notfromarkansas]
#19496806 - 01/30/14 02:38 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Notfromarkansas said: If you dont believe me grow some shrooms in direct sunlight and tell me how potent they are.
Every tub I do is in fruited by the sun, no fake lighting just pure AZ sun.
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Re: Does a harsh environment have any effect on potency? [Re: Notfromarkansas]
#19496817 - 01/30/14 02:39 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Notfromarkansas said: If you dont believe me grow some shrooms in direct sunlight and tell me how potent they are.
Cubes grow in open pastures. Why would direct sunlight be harsh?
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GimpCollector
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Re: Does a harsh environment have any effect on potency? [Re: Fungal growth]
#19496831 - 01/30/14 02:41 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Fungal growth said:
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Notfromarkansas said: If you dont believe me grow some shrooms in direct sunlight and tell me how potent they are.
Cubes grow in open pastures. Why would direct sunlight be harsh?
It's not, so long as you maintain the correct environment so they don't crack and dry out before they mature.
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Re: Does a harsh environment have any effect on potency? [Re: GimpCollector]
#19496860 - 01/30/14 02:47 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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The cubes I've picked from my outdoor spot have been every bit as my indoor, sun lacking, ones. Maybe even a little more, my friend went absolutely bat shit off of 1.5 grams, in a good way. Haha.
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GimpCollector
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Re: Does a harsh environment have any effect on potency? [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19496869 - 01/30/14 02:48 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sgt. Pepper said: The cubes I've picked from my outdoor spot have been every bit as my indoor, sun lacking, ones. Maybe even a little more, my friend went absolutely bat shit off of 1.5 grams, in a good way. Haha.
I wish I could go bat shit on 1.5g!!!!
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Re: Does a harsh environment have any effect on potency? [Re: GimpCollector]
#19496875 - 01/30/14 02:49 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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you can! just eat cyans
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Re: Does a harsh environment have any effect on potency? [Re: cronicr]
#19496916 - 01/30/14 02:54 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Haha. Me too, it was her first time and she's like 5 feet tall so that could have had a lot to do with it. She spoke with a British accent and called herself queen the entire night. We were sober, and it was hilarious. We were her peasants, she actually called us that, and any inanimate object was also alive to her. Hahaha. She wouldn't drink a glass of orange juice because she was separating it from it's mother, the orange gallon jug. Hahaha. So funny. Sorry, didn't mean to get off topic. The point being that outdoor picked mushrooms, in full sunlight, are just as potent as the ones we baby indoors.
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GimpCollector
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Re: Does a harsh environment have any effect on potency? [Re: cronicr]
#19496980 - 01/30/14 03:01 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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cronicr said: you can! just eat cyans;)
That's on my next list of things to do. I've grown my cubes for the year. Now focusing on my Peruvian Torch seedlings. When I start growing again they will be Pan Cyans.
Potency will be determined by the genetics. Mishandling of the fruit smashing it, storing them improperly will degrade the potency.
Smashing the fruit will cause breakage of the fruit body, exposing the fruit to be oxidized thus severely degrading potency. You want strong boomers, isolate boomers and propagate their genetics.
Taking care of your fruiting conditions and your substrate will result in beautiful flushes.
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tbagtag
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Re: Does a harsh environment have any effect on potency? [Re: GimpCollector]
#19497068 - 01/30/14 03:17 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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The misinformation is too painful. Bruising only shows degradation of phenylalkaloids, oxidation will degrade potency but it won't be instant. A lot of growers will cut large shrooms before going into the dehydrator. Psilocybin isn't some magical creature that runs away when released from the stem or if it's too cold or hot.
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GimpCollector
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Re: Does a harsh environment have any effect on potency? [Re: tbagtag]
#19497096 - 01/30/14 03:22 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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tbagtag said: The misinformation is too painful. Bruising only shows degradation of phenylalkaloids, oxidation will degrade potency but it won't be instant. A lot of growers will cut large shrooms before going into the dehydrator. Psilocybin isn't some magical creature that runs away when released from the stem or if it's too cold or hot.
I was referencing dude talking about smashing the boomer up, and improperly STORING. No one said anything about the Psilocybin being assholes and elbows out the door once cut. No one wrote that, but you read that. Pretty sure all the cultivators here KNOW that.
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tbagtag
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Re: Does a harsh environment have any effect on potency? [Re: GimpCollector]
#19497129 - 01/30/14 03:29 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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GimpCollector said:
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tbagtag said: The misinformation is too painful. Bruising only shows degradation of phenylalkaloids, oxidation will degrade potency but it won't be instant. A lot of growers will cut large shrooms before going into the dehydrator. Psilocybin isn't some magical creature that runs away when released from the stem or if it's too cold or hot.
I was referencing dude talking about smashing the boomer up, and improperly STORING. No one said anything about the Psilocybin being assholes and elbows out the door once cut. No one wrote that, but you read that. Pretty sure all the cultivators here KNOW that.
Ease up killer, youre just the last person that posted. Next time I post something on this board I'll run it past you to make sure the post is up to your standards.
My bad for summarizing the people asking to google the damn thing, people talking about how sunlight v natural light and other sorts of crap in this thread.
You sir are the Shroomery genius im shocked you're not a mod or a TC yet....idiot
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GimpCollector
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Re: Does a harsh environment have any effect on potency? [Re: tbagtag]
#19497160 - 01/30/14 03:33 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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tbagtag said:
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GimpCollector said:
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tbagtag said: The misinformation is too painful. Bruising only shows degradation of phenylalkaloids, oxidation will degrade potency but it won't be instant. A lot of growers will cut large shrooms before going into the dehydrator. Psilocybin isn't some magical creature that runs away when released from the stem or if it's too cold or hot.
I was referencing dude talking about smashing the boomer up, and improperly STORING. No one said anything about the Psilocybin being assholes and elbows out the door once cut. No one wrote that, but you read that. Pretty sure all the cultivators here KNOW that.
Ease up killer, youre just the last person that posted. Next time I post something on this board I'll run it past you to make sure the post is up to your standards.
My bad for summarizing the people asking to google the damn thing, people talking about how sunlight v natural light and other sorts of crap in this thread.
You sir are the Shroomery genius im shocked you're not a mod or a TC yet....idiot
LOL, I am an idiot.
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