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Burch89
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How long till I'm in the clear contam wise?
#19495362 - 01/30/14 07:49 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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So I inoculated 12 jars Saturday (~5 days ago) and most of my jars have a lot of colonization. There's 3 or 4 with very little. Half have foil on and half have foil off. There are 3 jars where I noticed small black dots against the jar. I have isolated these three and closely monitored the growth of the black dot. Since it hasn't grown at all in a week I think it's just some verm. What I really want to know is how long till I shouldn't worry about contamination? Say when the jars are fully colonized? I have been sanitizing my kitchen like crazy every day and wearing gloves and a mask everytime I even look at them. Thanks for the feedback in advance!
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Re: How long till I'm in the clear contam wise? [Re: Burch89]
#19495374 - 01/30/14 07:56 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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are you using pf or grains? either way...its not over until you fruit them. there can be hidden contams that don't appear in your jars. most of the time,why you get meangreen before first flush, is because of this. their riding along with the myc. just waiting for better conditions to sporolate...gl
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Burch89
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Re: How long till I'm in the clear contam wise? [Re: bluecap]
#19495388 - 01/30/14 08:01 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm doing it all PF. My cleanliness is pretty good but I should still be very cautious till the end?
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Re: How long till I'm in the clear contam wise? [Re: Burch89]
#19495407 - 01/30/14 08:09 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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well you should be ok without all the fuss. the dry verm barrier is your contam control at this point. don't move them around a lot. you can dislodge the dry verm and introduce contams, if the verm falls down the sides of your sub. just wait her out. you should be fine if your sterile tek is up to snuff...gl
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Re: How long till I'm in the clear contam wise? [Re: bluecap]
#19495437 - 01/30/14 08:23 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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pics?
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Burch89
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Re: How long till I'm in the clear contam wise? [Re: spacechildo]
#19495453 - 01/30/14 08:29 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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I can post pics as soon as I get home. I'm actually reporting everything in a notebook so I am trying to closely monitor them everyday. So I am moving them a little bit everyday. Mostly not disturbing the dry verm layer. Plus it is roughly half inch or more. I also noticed that when I pressure cooked I accidentally burnt the bottom 6 jars. I thought this would be detrimental but those jars have actually colonized the fastest. Just a weird coincidence I think. But that's another topic. I will be sure to post pics later on tonight
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Re: How long till I'm in the clear contam wise? [Re: spacechildo]
#19501388 - 01/31/14 01:48 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sorry for the late response to this. I found that every single one of my burnt PF jars were much farther along with colonization than the ones that were not burnt. The jars that I left the foil on seemed to help a lot! Those jars were further along as well. No jar that was without foil had very noticeable growth.





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Re: How long till I'm in the clear contam wise? [Re: Burch89]
#19501858 - 01/31/14 03:28 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Higher chance with those narrow mouth jars.
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Burch89
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Re: How long till I'm in the clear contam wise? [Re: Enigma1]
#19502216 - 01/31/14 04:47 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Better chance of what??
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PussyFart
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Re: How long till I'm in the clear contam wise? [Re: Burch89]
#19502222 - 01/31/14 04:50 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Using the taller jars give the cakes a higher chance of stalling because of gravity compacting the substrate towards the bottom.
This is why every PF Tek recommends the short wide mouth half pints.
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THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT!
A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
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EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Burch89
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Re: How long till I'm in the clear contam wise? [Re: PussyFart]
#19502383 - 01/31/14 05:28 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mine are half pint jars and regular mouth. I couldn't find any wide mouth jars around me. And I didn't want to order them. Honestly there won't be very much of a difference in gravity. The amount of substrate is nearly identical to that of a wide mouth Half pint jar. Other than that, does everything look alright? The black dots are verm particles I believe
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Re: How long till I'm in the clear contam wise? [Re: Burch89]
#19502488 - 01/31/14 05:55 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Burch89 said: Honestly there won't be very much of a difference in gravity.
Whatever you say......you're the expert here.
The black spots look like death.
If it aint white, it aint right.
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THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT!
A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
*** *** AFGHAN KUSH GROW LOG *** ***
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Burch89
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Re: How long till I'm in the clear contam wise? [Re: PussyFart]
#19502598 - 01/31/14 06:18 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm not trying to be a dick at all. Just putting in my experience and opinion. We will see how it goes. I will keep an eye on the growth, if any, of the black spot. Sorry for the misunderstanding man.
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Re: How long till I'm in the clear contam wise? [Re: Burch89]
#19502608 - 01/31/14 06:20 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Burch89 said: Just putting in my experience and opinion.
Me too.
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THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT!
A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
*** *** AFGHAN KUSH GROW LOG *** ***
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Burch89
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Re: How long till I'm in the clear contam wise? [Re: PussyFart]
#19502676 - 01/31/14 06:32 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well I hope you're wrong! For my sake. Lol. Either way it will be a while before anything happens.
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