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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: cronicr]
    #19450682 - 01/20/14 11:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

how things lookin today, ET?


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: indocult]
    #19450769 - 01/21/14 12:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: indocult]
    #19451198 - 01/21/14 02:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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They look like this:



The air pump is not turned on right now. I'm going to give it another 24 - 36 hours before I start an 8 - 12 hour dunk.


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: alex591955]
    #19453126 - 01/21/14 02:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I wonder if making a hybrid mono with two 1inch holes at substrate, then using the pump to pump air into the top of the mono. That way you are re-creating the mono but with an active system versus a passive one.

My only worry is 2 much FAE, but I found that you can buy air pumps that are adjustable so you can dial it in!





I think this might be a good idea to help the sub not get so dried out like what was happening.. Maybe even put the pump on a timer? so its not consitantly blowing are in.. idk just some ideas. I like the idea tho. I read a cupple threads about people hooking up humidifiers to there tub. like here http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6967150/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/5
I wanted to try this but seemed people more so thought it wasnt worth the time and effort and got talked out of it.





Just btw i got a tub that just hit 11 days . Im wanting to try this. The issue i have is Setting up the polyfill and fan in a closet so that it has correct FAE. Which seems like its hard to get it zero'd in. I also believe i put the side holes to high. If this works. To me it seems not even having to mess with a fan and polyfil is going to save me a ton of hassle and messing around. This seems like a even easier set and forget. Ill be happy if i get anything over 3z a tub. Ill link you when i get the write up done?


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: alex591955]
    #19456200 - 01/22/14 04:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The substrate is dunking. Will remove from water in about 12 - 16 hours depending on when I finish my errands tomorrow.

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I wonder if making a hybrid mono with two 1inch holes at substrate, then using the pump to pump air into the top of the mono. That way you are re-creating the mono but with an active system versus a passive one.

My only worry is 2 much FAE, but I found that you can buy air pumps that are adjustable so you can dial it in!





I think this might be a good idea to help the sub not get so dried out like what was happening.. Maybe even put the pump on a timer? so its not consitantly blowing are in.. idk just some ideas. I like the idea tho. I read a cupple threads about people hooking up humidifiers to there tub. like here http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6967150/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/5
I wanted to try this but seemed people more so thought it wasnt worth the time and effort and got talked out of it.





Just btw i got a tub that just hit 11 days . Im wanting to try this. The issue i have is Setting up the polyfill and fan in a closet so that it has correct FAE. Which seems like its hard to get it zero'd in. I also believe i put the side holes to high. If this works. To me it seems not even having to mess with a fan and polyfil is going to save me a ton of hassle and messing around. This seems like a even easier set and forget. Ill be happy if i get anything over 3z a tub. Ill link you when i get the write up done?




I'd love to see what you come up with I've switched from using two hoses on mine to only one and it seems to hold humidity much better.


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19456209 - 01/22/14 04:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Got an update from a friend who is currently coming down from a trip.

'It's no wavy cap mind fuck. Pleasant trip with a killer body buzz that reminds me of rolling. I couldn't stop petting my cat'

I'll take that as potency being :thumbup:


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19456839 - 01/22/14 10:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So im gonna also case it with some jiffy seed starter. That should help keep that moisture at a good level for the pins. Ill try one tube as well from the begining.  I think i rememeber seeing you saying you fanned and misted only once a day. Is that correct? Also what sized tube are you using? But that was when you had the two hoses. So ill just watch and tamper with it as i go. Hit day 12 today so im gonna case it for a few days and toss that air pump in there. Ill get some pics up tomorrow and a link.Im excited cause if this works ill be able to stack tubes in a closet with no fan:)

What do you think about running a hose from side to side. But every inche or so put a hole and tape off the end. Make it like a garden hose for air. That way the air placement is even across the tub. But looking at your pin set it doesnt seem like it will matter that much. Or another idea would be to get a y splitter so that you still get the same amount of air from one hose but can place it like you have the two hoses but still only have the flow of one.


Reading about the pumps. I found this one http://www.walmart.com/ip/Aqua-Culture-20-60-Gallon-Double-Outlet-Aquarium-Air-Pump-1-Ct-Fish-Aquatic-Pets/10532634

Is that about what you got? I wonder if the 1200cc air output is each hose? or all together... so 600cc a tube.


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: alex591955]
    #19457024 - 01/22/14 10:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Be careful using 2 air intake ports in your FC. He dropped one of them only using one because it would drop his RH too much during FAE. One should work or like someone suggested one airline for FAE and one maybe as a humidifier.  Otherwise your substrate might dry out to quick.


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: sololas]
    #19457110 - 01/22/14 11:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I was wanting to take the one he has in there now. Put a "y" on it so that there would be two intakes. But still the same air, just split 50/50. The thing is that his pin set and growth looks perfect so im not gonna change what he did. Just use one instead. Just putting some more ideas out there.


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: alex591955]
    #19457186 - 01/22/14 11:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No doubt, I like the idea too maybe if the FC was bigger then maybe two FAE intakes. Also a lot of air pump timers run for 15 min unless you can find and afford one with shorter times which would be great in using two intakes of FAE to help dial in a larger tub. That's kinda where I was thinking it could work for me doing a larger mono that is somewhat automated.


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: alex591955]
    #19457559 - 01/22/14 01:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Tub finished it's dunk today.

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So im gonna also case it with some jiffy seed starter. That should help keep that moisture at a good level for the pins. Ill try one tube as well from the begining.  I think i rememeber seeing you saying you fanned and misted only once a day. Is that correct? Also what sized tube are you using? But that was when you had the two hoses. So ill just watch and tamper with it as i go. Hit day 12 today so im gonna case it for a few days and toss that air pump in there. Ill get some pics up tomorrow and a link.Im excited cause if this works ill be able to stack tubes in a closiet with no fan:)

What do you think about running a hose from side to side. But every inche or so put a hole and tape off the end. Make it like a garden hose for air. That way the air placement is even across the tub. But looking at your pin set it doesnt seem like it will matter that much. Or another idea would be to get a y splitter so that you still get the same amount of air from one hose but can place it like you have the two hoses but still only have the flow of one.


Reading about the pumps. I found this one http://www.walmart.com/ip/Aqua-Culture-20-60-Gallon-Double-Outlet-Aquarium-Air-Pump-1-Ct-Fish-Aquatic-Pets/10532634

Is that about what you got? I wonder if the 1200cc air output is each hose? or all together... so 600cc a tube.




I am going to get to all of your questions but I'm running out the door right now so here's a few.

I thought about doing the line of hose through there but I feel for now I want to experiment with single point of entry for the air but you'd be welcome to try the other way. My gut tells me though that you're not going to get the right kind of air movement with a bunch of little holes who's pressure dissipates the further down the line you go.

It is a 66 quart sterilite tub.  I use a 100 watt equivolent daylight spectrum CFL in the recessed socket just in front of the closet.  It's on about 16 hours  - off 8.

Yes I did fan and mist up to once a day for the first flush (I think I fanned twice one day for when there were a lot of knots. I really wanted that sweet pinset but I don't know if one or two extra fanning session's would really show improvement or not)

I don't know if casing is really necessary even for this setup but I'd bet really excited to see someone try it!  As long as there isn't too much dry air though the tub should hold humidity fine.

The Y splitter sounds like a good idea for creating multiple entry points without risking too much drying.


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19457565 - 01/22/14 01:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

PS. Alex, Yes, that is the same pump I have.


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19458207 - 01/22/14 03:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Great stuff tiger...

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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: PirateSwazey]
    #19463396 - 01/23/14 04:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: Yuri.Pono]
    #19465892 - 01/24/14 01:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Edited original post with this.

Third flush pins are everywhere.  They are definitely not as numerous as the first two flushes but they are probably 4 - 5 times as many pins as there were for the first air pump tub's third flush.

               


I predict harvest in 5 days...  There are hyphae and new pins forming every day though so at this point it might just be a 'harvest free for all' as the shrooms come in getting every last one I can before contamination comes.

Thanks everyone for so much support and so many people saying they wanted to try this. I've gotten so many encouraging PM's from people asking me which kind of equipment I used / showing me ideas for other equipment that has potential. For anyone else attempting this I would just say:

'use your gut'

If the substrate looks dry then mist and fan with the lid or put the pump on a timer.  Pay attention to the sub. She will tell you what she needs.


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19489179 - 01/28/14 11:05 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

This harvest was completely neglect tek. I never fanned out the tub.  All I did was turn my room light on and off.  Total wet weigh was 2 lbs 1 ounces. Not including a few caps I took for printing.

I harvested in two rounds.  First came these guys that were ready.



Then came these guys the next day.



Sorry about the rotation. I don't know why my camera did that.

There are still a few shrooms that are maturing, maybe 10 or so.  I'll harvest them tomorrow morning but I don't expect them to weigh more than an ounce wet.

I so want to try for a fourth flush. Even If I just got one big monster out of it.


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19491402 - 01/29/14 01:18 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

Nice 3rd flush man!  You turned off the pump for the last flush? Or wha do you mean by neglect
I always get that staggered maturing on 3&4th flush.  mine is spread out over like 5 days from the first mature cap to the last.

you gonna dunk that bad boy or just mist it hardcore?


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: indocult]
    #19491740 - 01/29/14 02:50 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

did you case this and if so with what?


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: fourleaf033]
    #19492355 - 01/29/14 04:49 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

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Nice 3rd flush man!  You turned off the pump for the last flush? Or wha do you mean by neglect
I always get that staggered maturing on 3&4th flush.  mine is spread out over like 5 days from the first mature cap to the last.

you gonna dunk that bad boy or just mist it hardcore?




The yeah harvest staggered over three days.  In fact I harvested 10 more caps this morning. About three wet ounces worth. The pump was still on though.  After the I wish I had mopped up more of the water from the last dunk. I'm definitely not going to dunk again. I might mist it though the substrate still feels pretty wet.  I definitely want to get a fourth flush out of it considering I don't have any projects ready to put into fruiting at the moment.

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did you case this and if so with what?




There was no casing layer. This was 7 quarts of rye spawned to coir and verm.


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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19579222 - 02/17/14 10:50 AM (10 years, 7 days ago)

2/17: This tub is still going strong. Flush 5 was 18 grams dry.  Flush number 6 is on the way.  I turned the substrate upside down for this flush because it seemed like there was no more pinning happening on the harvested side. Lo and behold I have pins on the bottom now and they are reaching for the light!  Pictures to come this evening.


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