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Joust
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much better, ill break out mine tonight... doing better in school, been taking a sabatical fom mushies lol
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Alan Rockefeller
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Those spores look collapsed, perhaps they were not rehydrated properly? I wonder if they would have the same measurements if rehydrated in KOH or isopropanol?
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maynardjameskeenan
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I can do alcohol tomorrow.
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Joust
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yeah, ill measure my collections after my big test today, i ended up witing a paper instead of working on the collection. Ive just been so swamped. I havent even touched my new camera and lens
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Joust]
#19467831 - 01/24/14 01:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your priorities are in the right place, school/work/family always comes first.
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Joust
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mushrooms = school mushrooms = friends mushrooms = family i want mushrooms to = work
im free for the weekend!
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Joust]
#19481382 - 01/27/14 01:31 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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Joust
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Lepkaun]
#19481679 - 01/27/14 02:44 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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shit guys im working on it, my hand got a bad burn this weekend
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Joust]
#19482163 - 01/27/14 04:16 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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 Lol jk, thanks for all your help my friend! Just do what you comfortably can I'm in no hurry for anything.
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Joust
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i am, i wanna know, "I will do it tonight'! 
But actaullyi probably will, im really pissed off so i probably will.
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Joust
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-------------------- ~~~~~~***Psilocybin Mushrooms***~~~~~~ _________A Practical Guide To Psilocybin Mushrooms_________ "Think about the species, not your scale". -NeoSporen "Mr. Joust, I see you don't actually partake in the psilocin, but it looks like it may partake in you!" -Gojira
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Joust
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Joust]
#19489123 - 01/28/14 10:53 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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OKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKKKOKOKKOKOKKKOKOKOKKOk...... im doing it... now.. right this second im getting off my bed, well to the side of my bed... and scoping.... im excited
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Joust]
#19489170 - 01/28/14 11:04 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Joust
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maynardjameskeenan said:

-------------------- ~~~~~~***Psilocybin Mushrooms***~~~~~~ _________A Practical Guide To Psilocybin Mushrooms_________ "Think about the species, not your scale". -NeoSporen "Mr. Joust, I see you don't actually partake in the psilocin, but it looks like it may partake in you!" -Gojira
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: Joust]
#19489340 - 01/28/14 11:38 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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8.71 5.00 8.66 5.03 7.92 5.01 8.38 5.31 8.39 5.42 8.49 5.75 7.68 4.71 8.29 5.01 8.52 4.64 8.84 5.16 8.60 5.08 8.34 5.03 7.93 4.71 8.11 4.98 9.62 5.48 8.71 4.82 8.03 4.61 8.52 5.13 8.45 5.82 8.69 5.65 9.12 4.95 8.18 5.39 6.27 5.53
7.2 [8.1 ; 8.6] 9.6 x 4.5 [5 ; 5.3] 5.8 µm Q = 1.3 [1.6 ; 1.7] 1.9 ; N = 23 ; C = 95% Me = 8.4 x 5.1 µm ; Qe = 1.6
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Anglerfish
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What do you think?
I'm tempted to say the spore shape looks off for Psilocybe silvatica.
It does, however, along with the measurements, look quite similar to that of Hypholoma dispersum:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19369983@N06/8451326755/
Mind you, this is my vague and inexperienced opinion.
Did you find cystidia?
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Anglerfish said: What do you think?
I'm tempted to say the spore shape looks off for Psilocybe silvatica.
It does, however, along with the measurements, look quite similar to that of Hypholoma dispersum:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19369983@N06/8451326755/
Mind you, this is my vague and inexperienced opinion.
Did you find cystidia?
This unknown was found in hardwoods not conifer. There was no flushing of green on any of the specimens which we had at all stages of development. Also our collections of this mushroom all had a distinct spore covered annular zone, just a few inconsistencies with name this as Hypholoma dispersum. Then again I am way more inexperienced then you are and the few descriptions of Hypholoma dispersum I could find were not complete.
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: Psilocybe silvatica [Re: nomadbrad]
#19491329 - 01/29/14 12:59 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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I've seen Hypholoma dispersum a few times in clear-cuts, I don't think theses are them, I'm no expert on the matter. I'm just guessing these are a Psilocybe or Deconica because that's what the look most like to me, macroscopically speaking  What should the spore shape of silvatica look like? We'll know soon enough, Joust has a sample, Alonzo also has some, and they are much more experienced at what to look for then myself. Until we have some solid micrographs, everything is conjecture.
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Anglerfish
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maynardjameskeenan said: I'm just guessing these are a Psilocybe or Deconica because that's what the look most like to me, macroscopically speaking 
Well they surely look like good contenders. Although it would be good to eliminate any possible competition, like similar looking Hypholoma sp.
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What should the spore shape of silvatica look like?
(1) Not being too easy with the terminology of shapes, and (2) having very little to go by conserning P. silvatica, I'd say they are not ellipsoid in the way these are - they are narrower and more pointed in the ends. But again, without the necessary experience and so little to compare by I wouldn't try to make any secure statements.
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We'll know soon enough, Joust has a sample, Alonzo also has some, and they are much more experienced at what to look for then myself. Until we have some solid micrographs, everything is conjecture.
True. Can't wait for more information.
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