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FrankHorrigan
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bodhisatta 
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FrankHorrigan said:

pretty much, WBR outperforms any other? then it should follow that it would be easy to make an ordered list of power differences between RGS Rye WBS Corn etc...
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FrankHorrigan
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I was saying RR really nailed it
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bodhisatta 
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FrankHorrigan said: I was saying RR really nailed it 
I know, I was pointing out yet another flaw in the WBR is the best hypothesis.
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GimpCollector
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bodhisatta said:
pretty much, WBR outperforms any other? then it should follow that it would be easy to make an ordered list of power differences between RGS Rye WBS Corn etc... 
I run to the dark corners of my house and shake like a bitch anytime I hear "Brown Rice" brings back horrible flashbacks of my days in the BRF ditch.
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bodhisatta 
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no one ever goes around saying BRF Rye or WBS are more potent than another and we all know BRF is the most potent in nutrition. But somehow WBR something that BRF comes from makes stronger fruits?? then wouldn't the PF tek be more "power" fruits which it's obviously not... Same thing with poo vs coir vs only casings of soil verm peat etc.. we don't say one is more capable of potency over the other, so what gives here? using ferts? Everyone knows already that long consolidation helps with potency but if you isolate a potent strain then fuck it let them do what they(mushrooms) want on their time table.
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (01/28/14 11:26 PM)
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GimpCollector
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bodhisatta said: no one ever goes around saying BRF Rye or WBS are more potent than another and we all know BRF is the most potent. But somehow WBR something that BRF comes from makes stronger fruits. then wouldn't the PF tek be more "power" fruits which it's obviously not...
God I don't know why I can never comprehend your posts as well as I would like. Sounds like you are drinking the same koolaid that RR and a majority of us believe. That WBR, Poo, WBS, RB, Popcorn make no difference when it comes to potency.
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cronicr



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GimpCollector said:
God I don't know why I can never comprehend your posts as well as I would like.
thats how most feel about annes posts lol
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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: cronicr]
#19489925 - 01/29/14 05:16 AM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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anne halonium
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ok , just so were clear.........
its perfectly fine to waste energy baking glass and boiling shit buckets, but ,its somehow criminal to use PP5 cuz it enables big oil? hmm. considering a PP5 and blue light grow is pry the most efficient type of grow energy wise, thats really convoluted.
seems you guys think all subs are the same. how self serving. i know better. alot of us know better.
all bio forms have an optimum conditions parameter. your suggesting boomers dont?
im really starting to think, you guys will say, or believe anything that suits your paradigm.
of all the things, ill admit, i never expected to see the fear in the community of things they dont have experience with. i really thought the community was more progressive. its sorta sad really.
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magickspore



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Stromrider
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You're comparing Fungi to plants? Are you serious?
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anne halonium
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^are you suggesting that fungi magically prefer what you think they do? or that somehow fungi prefer things from your paradigm?
you guys do better fooling the noobs. they dont know the diff. i do. im fully aware of my energy usage and fuel costs per yield.
im also fully aware of the power diff in many types of subs.
35 yrs + growing /experimenting. ya learn things.
i have zero intent of informing the dogmatic peeps here. the info is for those that realize, deep down, theres a better way. there is..........
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bodhisatta 
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its perfectly fine to waste energy baking glass and boiling shit buckets, but ,its somehow criminal to use PP5 cuz it enables big oil? hmm.
the jar is really not the debate, some people PC their grains in PP5 and still shit bucket
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seems you guys think all subs are the same. how self serving. i know better. alot of us know better.
so if WBR is the "power" grain to use how come BRF cakes don't make more "power fruits" considering it's a derivative of WBR? How come no one in tens of thousands of grows hasn't noticed with isolate cultures that the shrooms are more potent on one sub vs another?
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all bio forms have an optimum conditions parameter. your suggesting boomers dont?
nope but ever sub gives them what they need and more, they have all the nutrition they need to perform from any substrate we use, unlike plants and mammals that can be somewhat force fed.
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im really starting to think, you guys will say, or believe anything that suits your paradigm.
nope, plenty of other people have opened up new ideas just fine, there's a whole host of shit that's 4-5 years old and already outdated, you and your crew are just doing the shittiest job of introducing new things out of all the people that have brought new things to the table as of recent. There's all sorts of better ways every year. We know there's better ways, we are open to them, why not follow the examples of some people that have been successful selling their new ways.
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of all the things, ill admit, i never expected to see the fear in the community of things they dont have experience with.
show me where our fear is...
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i really thought the community was more progressive. its sorta sad really.
I really thought you would help people out with your method more instead of just protecting it and letting people "fail" or at least not succeed at it.
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (01/29/14 10:04 AM)
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anne halonium
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gee bod, ya made my point for me.
fact is, subs vary in power. PP5 is highly energy efficient in the total picture.
sometimes i think you guys write for fox news when your not posting here.
its apparent you guys read alot of things ya agree with, and suit your paradigms, and read little that suggests otherwise.
also, those that have experience with bulks AND grains , and a variety of mods, trump those that just sling buckets.
in the real world , actual experience over time, beats conjecture.
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 I'm thinking there are some very self-important people around here.
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Violet



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bodhisatta said:
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seems you guys think all subs are the same. how i know better. alot of us know better.
so if WBR is the "power" grain to use how come BRF cakes don't make more "power fruits" considering it's a derivative of WBR?
Brf isn't whole grain, for one. The tiny bits of flour are consumed so much more quickly. And remember there is 3x as much mycelium living off the Brf spread over verm.
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How come no one in tens of thousands of grows hasn't noticed with isolate cultures that the shrooms are more potent on one sub vs another?
How come you haven't noticed means nobody has? Seriously, there are 2 such persons right here whom you're speaking to.
I've seen lots of the likes here. And this is far from the only mushroom forum.
Generally-correct mentalisms about variability of the grow is what's mostly shared here. Experience on matters at hand gets philosophically reduced to "subjective" which is supposed to be obviously inferior to this subjective place's half-smart idea of "objective" - regarding a bio organism in a new science! This place seems to have become a place to enforce the spread of low-resolution norms of confirmably "good info" and less about true experiences, findings, improvements... What seems to be thought of as "good science" on these boards is more so a repression of the true scientific spirit in favor of locking down onto general known "givens"
I'm about done with this place. I grow bored with the cancerous idea that pollutant people think of as "democracy" or "equality". Egotistical fools often become livid when when they feel that their tomato-gardener experience isn't considered equal to genuine education, experience, or expertise.
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GimpCollector
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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: cronicr]
#19491022 - 01/29/14 11:46 AM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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cronicr said:
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GimpCollector said:
God I don't know why I can never comprehend your posts as well as I would like.
thats how most feel about annes posts lol
Yeah her and her "Crew" pretty certain her "Crew" originate posts from the same class A IP.
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cronicr



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anne halonium said:
im fully aware of my energy usage and fuel costs per yield.
so am i, it costs me a light bulb and a mister, not growing weed here no matter what way you skin the cat growing fungus is cheap
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Psilicon
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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: cronicr]
#19491257 - 01/29/14 12:41 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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cronicr said:
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anne halonium said:
im fully aware of my energy usage and fuel costs per yield.
so am i, it costs me a light bulb and a mister, not growing weed here no matter what way you skin the cat growing fungus is cheap
I'm definitely with cronicr here. I waste more than twice as much energy whenever I do a load of laundry, and I'm not going to start using a washboard and a clothesline just because that's how they do it in the new age.
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