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Rye spawn to coir/verm/gypsum fruiting in a greenhouse. Few questions
    #19484818 - 01/28/14 05:14 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

hi all,
i'm new in this forum, but done a lot of reading before. I have bought a 4 tier green house and going to use elementary Damion5050's Coir Tek, but not everything is clear enough for me so i have some questions:
1. Is it good to grow mushrooms in a GH using this tek?
2. What kind of gypsum shoud i use?
3. What is better: soak rye in a gypsum water or pour gypsum with coir?
4. How many and house big holes shuld i cut in a jar's lid?
5. Is it necessary to flame the needle before injecting jars if i will do it in a glovebox?
6. It is impossible to replace coir/verm and spawn to growing box using a glovebox. How should i avoid dust, bacterias, etc. which are in the room's air?
7. Are there something transparent to use instead of foil to cover the growing box top while the bulk is colonizing? How many holes should i cut in it?

It would be a wonderful if someone could answer these questions. :smile:

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Re: Rye spawn to coir/verm/gypsum fruiting in a greenhouse. Few questions [Re: greenforce]
    #19484831 - 01/28/14 05:25 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

You sir/madam? Need to do more reading.
1. Its fine but monotubs are usually more noob friendly. GL.
2. Pellets (I don't use any so wait for someone else for more specific answer.
3. Either one. Again I haven't used any yet.
4. Depends on what tek you are following find a tek and follow it to the LETTER. 2 or 4 1/4 in. Are the norm.
5. YES. BETWEEN EACH JAR FLAME THE NEEDLE.
6. Spawning to bulk does not have to be sterile. 100% colonized spawn is contam resistent. Apparently so is coir.
7. Just use w.e. Lid came with it. Its ok to peak once in a while.

Edited by magickspore (01/28/14 05:27 AM)

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Re: Rye spawn to coir/verm/gypsum fruiting in a greenhouse. Few questions [Re: magickspore]
    #19484988 - 01/28/14 06:53 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Welcome to Shroomery!  u have many questions, and as we are many ppl here with differing views/experiences, I'm sure u will get many different answers.  its up to you to sort them out, based on your reading (do a lot of it), and the knowledge you gain from each grow/project.  when starting out, stick to a TEK by a trusted cultivator (don't mix TEKs, or experiment at first), until you get a grasp on what ur doing.  here's my input on those questions:

1.  yes u can grow mushrooms in a GH with that tek, but most ppl use that specific tek with mono tubs.
2.horitcultural gypsum (comes in alb bags in powder form, or larger bags in pellet form), unless u can't find it, then use drywall crushed to a fine powder.
3. u can use gypsum with the soak water, and with that dam ion tek.
4. u'll find a lot of lid teks, A LOT.  i use one 1/4" hole with and SFD that is glued on with RTV
5. yes always flame needle, even with a glovebox (like magic spore said)
6. like magic spore said again, once urs jars are at 100%, and ur coir/verm is properly pasteurized u can spawn in open air, no need to glovebox.
7. yea as long as it is not a tight fitting/sealing lid, use the one that came with it, no need for holes in a plastic lid.  with foil, i'd just wrap it around the top and not poke holes, as long as its not too tight, it will be similar to a loose fitting lid, like a mono tub.


here are some helpful links to go over.

coir/verm preperation

proper pasteurization  use that instead of dam ion TEK

spawning to a monotub

green house set up

lid tek

most of those are from Frank, he is a Trusted Cultivator and his TEK's are awesome, that have helped many many many ppl here, including me.  easy to follow directions, picture heavy, great results.
when looking thru threads, new or old, look for the "trusted Cultivator" under a posters name, as that indicates they know what they are doing.  you will get great advice from other ppl, but if it comes down to making a decision, use info from a TC post, or a quote from a TC in another members posts.  also make sure u read the date of any TEKS u r going over.  if they are more than 2 years old, they aren't necessarily bad, but there is likely a newer tek with some updated info.

Good luck Brother!

edit: not sure if any of the links above include the actual contraction of a mono, just how to spawn to it, get it dialed in, etc.  so here is how to actually build one (hole placement, etc.)

TL's mono construction


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Edited by blindingleaf (01/28/14 07:10 AM)

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Re: Rye spawn to coir/verm/gypsum fruiting in a greenhouse. Few questions [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19485080 - 01/28/14 07:39 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

:whathesaid: Sorry for the vague response. Its my bed time about now (7-8am) so I'm a little tired.

Leaf has a great post there I agree 100%. Read, read, and you guessed it read some more.

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Re: Rye spawn to coir/verm/gypsum fruiting in a greenhouse. Few questions [Re: magickspore]
    #19485095 - 01/28/14 07:46 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

magic its ur bedtime now too!!??  i work third shift, so this early reading/posting is done right when i get home from work.  i dunno why...but i feel somewhat comforted by the fact I'm not the only third shifter here. haha

also OP, i just noticed all the links in magick's signature are a must read.


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Re: Rye spawn to coir/verm/gypsum fruiting in a greenhouse. Few questions [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19485146 - 01/28/14 08:08 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

blindingleaf said:
magic its ur bedtime now too!!??  i work third shift, so this early reading/posting is done right when i get home from work.  i dunno why...but i feel somewhat comforted by the fact I'm not the only third shifter here. haha

also OP, i just noticed all the links in magick's signature are a must read.




Lol yea I was on 3rd shift for like 3yrs and I never broke the habit when I changed jobs. Now I'm lucky if I fall asleep before 8am. God forbid I have something to do during the day.

Yuup :raisemyglass: Click the links, there's quite a bit of good info in those. Give or take some info (but that's what the search engine is for):goodluck:

(I keep forgetting I changed my SIG so those were in it.)

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Re: Rye spawn to coir/verm/gypsum fruiting in a greenhouse. Few questions [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19489776 - 01/29/14 03:24 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you for your answers! You realy hellped me a lot.:smile:
Quote:

blindingleaf said:
7. yea as long as it is not a tight fitting/sealing lid, use the one that came with it, no need for holes in a plastic lid.  with foil, i'd just wrap it around the top and not poke holes, as long as its not too tight, it will be similar to a loose fitting lid, like a mono tub.






I bought this kind of boxes (without the lid). If i use foil and uncover it, would'nt that introduce the fresh air which would start fruiting process even if it's not fully colonised?

My boxes are ~13 litres, so can i use 650g of coir, 2 quarts of Verm and 6 quart jars of spawn per 2 boxes? Should i cut the holes in the sides of the box like in mono-tub tek?

By the way, thanks for the links, I will use these teks instead of Demion's. :smile:

Edited by greenforce (01/29/14 03:26 AM)

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Re: Rye spawn to coir/verm/gypsum fruiting in a greenhouse. Few questions [Re: greenforce]
    #19489804 - 01/29/14 03:43 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

looks like you have a green house, so no need for holes in the plastic trays, but u should line them with a black trash bag or something similar.  make sure u run that thing with humidifiers or whatever in their before you put ur crops in to make sure it is at the correct humidity and temp.


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