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Need help with my 2.5L coke bottle FC
    #19487185 - 01/28/14 04:52 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Hi there, this is my second grow. First grow I had one cake in a Rubbermaid container that I tried to make into a mini SGFC, wasn't super successful but I was able to grow enough for one mild trip - better than nothing!
After doing much research on these boards I decided the Coke bottle method would be best for me. I know the SGFC is ideal but I don't have the space and recently suffered a sports injury so it'd be to hard to construct. I have three cakes, only one has a couple pins on it. I dunked all of them for about 16-20 hours , I put them In a quart jar with damp perlite while I constructed the fc.

I took two 2.5 Liter coke bottles and cut the top off. Then put damp perlite in the bottom. I used a knife to make holes approximately once inch apart all over the bottle, I didn't put holes in the bottom below the substrate - should I do this?

Also to fan it I screw the top of the bottle off and push the top of the fc up and down. How many times a day and for how long should I do this?? I've done it quite a few times already today, is it possible to over-fan it?

how do I know if I'm spraying too much? I'm currently spraying 3-4 times a day directly soaking the cake and spraying the walls of the bottle

I keep the top of the bottle screwed on and take it off when I pump the top up and down to give fae - is this what I'm supposed to be doing?
and finally, my third cake is in a quart jar that I put damp perlite on the bottom of and cling wrap on the top, I mist it and spray it 5-6 times a day, will this work or should I just put it in  a bottle?
When I was fanning I accidentally knocked a pin off so I'm keeping one of the cakes on its side to prevent that from happening again.





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Re: Need help with my 2.5L coke bottle FC [Re: collegeboy312]
    #19487305 - 01/28/14 05:18 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Get them off the perlite. As for everything else I will see if someone with more direct experience in this situation gives their input.

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Re: Need help with my 2.5L coke bottle FC [Re: collegeboy312]
    #19487341 - 01/28/14 05:27 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Dude, save yourself the trouble, build a proper SGFC.  It doesn't have to be big.  Build it to spec, and you'll have much better luck.  Do some searching, and a bit of reading, and you'll get it.  This hobby can be done inexpensively, but you can't half ass it.  I mean no disrespect, i just dont know where to start with this one.

There are too many things to point out to you right now that you're doing wrong.  Just flip the page over and start a new picture.


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Re: Need help with my 2.5L coke bottle FC [Re: magickspore]
    #19487357 - 01/28/14 05:32 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Get them off the perlite. As for everything else I will see if someone with more direct experience in this situation gives their input.




He's got'm on lids magick, but they're covered in perlite...there's not enough perlite in the bottom, the holes are poked with a knife, there's no way to fan them down that far...i think he may be better off starting from scratch than trying to salvage the FC's he's got.  I think he can save the cakes if he builds a proper SGFC, but otherwise they're gonna die a slow death.

I've seen craft tubs at walmart for 3 bucks that could hold some perlite and a few cakes...that's almost as cheap as a bottle of coke.  A screwdriver from the dollar store, along with a lighter will get him the holes he needs.  I think that righ there will increase his chances 10 fold.


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Re: Need help with my 2.5L coke bottle FC [Re: 1down5up]
    #19487440 - 01/28/14 05:47 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

You guys really think this won't work? :frown:
Browsing this forum it seems a lot of people have had success with coke bottle fc, I tried to imitate what those people did. I know the coke bottle method won't produce as much yield as a proper fc but I'm willing to have a smaller yield.

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Re: Need help with my 2.5L coke bottle FC [Re: 1down5up]
    #19487456 - 01/28/14 05:49 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Oh my bad couldn't see that. My apologies and yes I agree. If you don't build a quick and cheap SGFC then they might fail. My only other suggestion would be 1 of these Novelty grows or Cup o' Shrooms

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Re: Need help with my 2.5L coke bottle FC [Re: collegeboy312]
    #19487470 - 01/28/14 05:51 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I don't want to discourage you from trying, so give'r man.  Just do us a favor and post some pics along the way.

I've had succes with coke bottles, i use them to isolate questionable cakes until i know they're ok, but i drill holes in them with a 1/4 inch drill bit, and put about 4 inches of perlite in the bottom with holes drilled on all the sides that aren't touching the table.  I don't think knife pokes are gonna cut it.


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Re: Need help with my 2.5L coke bottle FC [Re: magickspore]
    #19487475 - 01/28/14 05:52 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Oh my bad couldn't see that. My apologies and yes I agree. If you don't build a quick and cheap SGFC then they might fail. My only other suggestion would be 1 of these Novelty grows or Cup o' Shrooms





Great advice man

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Re: Need help with my 2.5L coke bottle FC [Re: magickspore]
    #19487493 - 01/28/14 05:55 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Him ok so if I get a half gallon glass jar all I do is put three inches of damp perlite on the bottom then use cling wrap as the top and fan/mist frequently that would work? That seems simple enough

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Re: Need help with my 2.5L coke bottle FC [Re: collegeboy312]
    #19487555 - 01/28/14 06:06 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Him ok so if I get a half gallon glass jar all I do is put three inches of damp perlite on the bottom then use cling wrap as the top and fan/mist frequently that would work? That seems simple enough




VERY VERY FREQUENTLY! They need constant fae! I don't even know how Cronicr successfully fruited in that but I'm always up for experiments so I say follow the tek and give them the pinning triggers (passive fae and evaporation off the surface) and it should work.

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Re: Need help with my 2.5L coke bottle FC [Re: collegeboy312]
    #19487557 - 01/28/14 06:06 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Would it be possible to make a SGFC with a smaller container so it doesn't take up too much space? I would use a screwdriver and a lighter to put holes all over one inch apart??

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Re: Need help with my 2.5L coke bottle FC [Re: magickspore]
    #19487571 - 01/28/14 06:09 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

ok if I buy a fan I'd be able to mist it every hour at least on most days. I'm going to go see if the grocery store or hardware store has half gallon jars - if I can't find one what else could I use?

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Re: Need help with my 2.5L coke bottle FC [Re: collegeboy312]
    #19487574 - 01/28/14 06:09 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Him ok so if I get a half gallon glass jar all I do is put three inches of damp perlite on the bottom then use cling wrap as the top and fan/mist frequently that would work? That seems simple enough





Maybe, cronicr has some mad skills, to assume you can pull off what he did is to put on a very large pair of pants.


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Re: Need help with my 2.5L coke bottle FC [Re: collegeboy312]
    #19487575 - 01/28/14 06:09 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Would it be possible to make a SGFC with a smaller container so it doesn't take up too much space? I would use a screwdriver and a lighter to put holes all over one inch apart??




Yes as long as it has a 1/4 inch holes every 2 inches in a grid pattern on all 6 sides. Fill with perlite and make sure you leave enough room for fruits to grow. Fan couple times a day, misting when the previous mist has dried.

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Re: Need help with my 2.5L coke bottle FC [Re: collegeboy312]
    #19487615 - 01/28/14 06:14 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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ok if I buy a fan I'd be able to mist it every hour at least on most days. I'm going to go see if the grocery store or hardware store has half gallon jars - if I can't find one what else could I use?




Don't get a fan unless you're really really hot.  Even then, leave it out of the room you're growing in unless you're using a monotub.

You can buy a half gallon jar, or you can buy a clear tote you can drill, or melt, holes in.

This thread definitely calls for this.....



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Re: Need help with my 2.5L coke bottle FC [Re: 1down5up]
    #19487626 - 01/28/14 06:15 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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ok if I buy a fan I'd be able to mist it every hour at least on most days. I'm going to go see if the grocery store or hardware store has half gallon jars - if I can't find one what else could I use?




USE ANYTHING that can give you the pinning triggers. (results may vary)

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Him ok so if I get a half gallon glass jar all I do is put three inches of damp perlite on the bottom then use cling wrap as the top and fan/mist frequently that would work? That seems simple enough





Maybe, cronicr has some mad skills, to assume you can pull off what he did is to put on a very large pair of pants.




Lol yea my thoughts exactly.

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Re: Need help with my 2.5L coke bottle FC [Re: magickspore]
    #19487641 - 01/28/14 06:17 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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'Yes as long as it has a 1/4 inch holes every 2 inches in a grid pattern on all 6 sides. Fill with perlite and make sure you leave enough room for fruits to grow. Fan couple times a day, misting when the previous mist has dried.




Ok thanks so much form your help guys! It seems making a mini SGFC is the best bet here. Should I buy a real fan or is fanning with a piece of paper good enough? I'll build this tonight I need to finish a paper first, will my cakes be okay for a few hours? They still have a good mushroom smell to them.

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Re: Need help with my 2.5L coke bottle FC [Re: collegeboy312]
    #19487705 - 01/28/14 06:24 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Just take the top off the tub, and use that.  The fanning should be done manually, by you, not by a fan.  Just mist it good, about a foot away, then fan it till you don't see any droplets coming out of the FC anymore.  It helps to have a light in behind the FC shining on your cakes.


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Re: Need help with my 2.5L coke bottle FC [Re: 1down5up]
    #19487741 - 01/28/14 06:27 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Also make sure its elevated like 6 inches off the table or w.e. It sits on.

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Re: Need help with my 2.5L coke bottle FC [Re: magickspore]
    #19487768 - 01/28/14 06:31 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

fanning isn't for FAE it's only to remove the mist particles from the air after you mist. The mist that lands on the perlite keeps the perlite hydrated for the most part and the mist that lands on the cakes feeds your pins as well as evaporates to be a pinning trigger. The FAE is passive not from the fanning at all, FAE happens because you built the SGFC right. The mist removal from the air just kickstarts the mist on the cakes and perlite to evaporate again since it will start sooner if the air is relatively dry IE exchanged with a quick fanning.

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