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Spawn bag trouble
    #19485216 - 01/28/14 08:40 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Ok, so I inoculated two 5 grain spawn bags with 5 cc's of B +.It's been a little over a month and on them is about 60%  colonized and the other about half. They started off colonizing fairly fast, but now I think they may have stopped. The mycelium looks very healthy. Bright white, no mold firm. Could they not be getting enough oxygen? Or if I added a heat source could that speed them up?

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Re: Spawn bag trouble [Re: Budd]
    #19485220 - 01/28/14 08:42 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

B+**

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Re: Spawn bag trouble [Re: Budd]
    #19485228 - 01/28/14 08:45 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Could be bacterial, pics would help.


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Re: Spawn bag trouble [Re: Budd]
    #19485253 - 01/28/14 08:55 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Oxigen and / or heat could be a problem.

What is your temperature? How gas exchange takes place?

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Re: Spawn bag trouble [Re: cli_hlt]
    #19485271 - 01/28/14 09:01 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Pics and if your ever unsure give them a shake if they recover your good if not... Well better luck next time.

I do not recommend shaking more then once so if you already did your shake at the 20-50% then have patience. Annd pics.

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Re: Spawn bag trouble [Re: magickspore]
    #19485300 - 01/28/14 09:07 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

:picdidnthappen:

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Re: Spawn bag trouble [Re: slh980]
    #19485542 - 01/28/14 10:34 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

if they are pre ordered spawn bags, they probably dried out.  grains loose moisture after a while, so (if it was pre ordered) u have to add in time spent at that warehouse, time in mail, plus a whole month that its been colonizing (esp from spore..takes a bit).  if its bacteria u will see wet/moist grains.
for GE, its a filter patch, right?

edit: also where are u keeping them, like what orientation is the bag?  i've made the mistake of putting them in a smaller plastic tote on their sides, and growth stopped at 60ish%.  since its a spawn bag, its a lot more living myc that is breathing than a jar, so open air on a shelf is best (you may already be doing this), also generates a lot of heat that will cause growth to stall if its just trapped in a small plastic tote (or use a big one if u have to like Frank's TiT so ar can circulate around bags and let heat escape).  i just keep mine like this:


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Re: Spawn bag trouble [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19485765 - 01/28/14 11:23 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

blindingleaf, by chance is that a rubber band I see keeping your bag closed?


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Re: Spawn bag trouble [Re: jenkinz]
    #19485768 - 01/28/14 11:24 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

yes sir!  haha gotta get me some zip ties!


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Re: Spawn bag trouble [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19485776 - 01/28/14 11:28 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

:rockon: I also use rubber bands. I had a huge bag lying around. Finally put em to use.


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Re: Spawn bag trouble [Re: jenkinz]
    #19485832 - 01/28/14 11:41 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

i have to say, spawn bags are scary, i think I've been lucky.  its so hard to g2g in SAB and taking tyvek out slowly, tying the top, etc in cramped space.  just did one with an lc, and it was much easier.  hopefully it works...


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Re: Spawn bag trouble [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19486021 - 01/28/14 12:28 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I would be so scared to open a spawn bag. That's why I don't use agar wedges strait to them. I scrape the mycelium off of the surface, spray in some water, and suck it back up to use. I feel like if I ever opened a bag I would have contam problems.


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Re: Spawn bag trouble [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19487609 - 01/28/14 06:13 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

haha its funny u said that, i really want to try that (the scapre and suck).  only problem is my only empty syringe is full with an LC (agar to honey water).  i nocced up a jar with it last night, if its not viable, then i will def do that.
yea opening spawn bag is scary with no hood.  i really feel like I'm just lucky. the sterile gods were with me.
so do you pre seal?  i have no impulse sealer.


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Re: Spawn bag trouble [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19487869 - 01/28/14 06:47 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

bags scare me too, I don't think I would ever fuck with that in my SAB, If I had a spawn bag I would make an agar wedge inoculated LC and use that. Sure you get the needle vector for contam but that's a smaller and more controlled vector then a huge gaping hole in the top of a bag in a confined SAB.

I want to maybe use bags for my reishi since I can supplement the saw dust with things that need to be sterilized then but I don't want to g2g to a bag, so it might be my first adventure with LC aside from the mega fail I had with it when I was a noob and tried to make one with tissue samples :facepalm:

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Re: Spawn bag trouble [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19487903 - 01/28/14 06:52 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

yea dude i know what u mean.  its so nice though just one bag=1 mono.  whats not nice is wasting an entire bag of expensive rye because SAB procedure were crappy...im still in my beginner luck phase.  but if that LC works, ill look into pre sealing my bags before PCing.  cause its also nerve racking to transfer the bag itself from PC to SAB.


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Re: Spawn bag trouble [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19488312 - 01/28/14 08:02 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I always preseal my bags with zip ties and I haven't had a single problem with 12 bags. I always like to work with a syringe when I'm dealing with bags. It's just way too much to risk losing. I almost cried when my galindoi bag got trich:feelsbadman:


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Re: Spawn bag trouble [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19488330 - 01/28/14 08:04 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

nice!  ill try that too!  when i nocced the bag up with LC, i had a layer of duct tape opposed side of filter patch, injected, then another piece of duct tape on top.  how do u do urs sgt p?


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Re: Spawn bag trouble [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19488750 - 01/28/14 09:25 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I just stick a needle through the bag wherever I please and slap some tape over it. Haha. If I reuse the bags I'll make silicone injection ports, but until them this is fine. I even inoculate in open air and the little hole the needle makes hasn't caused any problems. The one contam I got was at the bottom of the bag so I'm sure it wasn't from dirty air.


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Re: Spawn bag trouble [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19488984 - 01/28/14 10:18 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

so just a pic to show what i meant (a couple posts back) with the spawn bags generating a lot of heat.  here is a pic of my grain shelf.  u can see two thermometers, and maybe if u zoom u can see the temp on each (kinda small though)  the bottom shelves are closest to my heater, staying around 79, the upper 2 shelves normally hover at 70.  with the thermometer in between the 2 bags, its reading 80, 10 degrees higher than the shelf below it that is closer to the heat source.  so even in open air, the heat from the bags in more than enough to cause air around it to heat up, i'd imagine it to be way hotter in a TiT with bags.  never seen this 10 degree difference, even if i had 10-12 jars next to each other, that might only be a 5 degree difference.



just wanted to share, hopefully help the OP with spawn bags in future.  I'm still relatively new to them, so I'm learning about them about time i use them.

ps. just previewed the post, u can zoom and see the readings on the thermometer.  also, kinda tricky photography, it looks like the end of thermometer is under the bag...its not, its in the middle between the two, kinda pointing diagonally to the left from the gauge (didn't want ppl to think i rigged the photo, this is just me trying to post my experience, no need for rigging here)


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