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noobtoke
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Palenque & B+ Grow Logs coming soon, advice?
#19482197 - 01/27/14 04:25 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hello Shroomerites, It has been quite some time since i have attempted to grow mushies or made a post on this amazing forum! I am however about to embark on my first grow in over a year, I will be growing B+ and Palenque both from prints (from members on the forum that will recieve shoutouts and props upon the prints arrival). I was hoping for some general advice on the following procedure i plan to use ( i have had contam problems in the past, so i want to be sure it isnt a procedural error) The grow will start in 2 LB rye mycobags (as spawn) and will end in two 7 LB small monotubs, bulk sub will be 50/50 (hpoo and straw) - No Casing P.S: The temp throughout this whole grow will be between 65-75 i am aware the ideal temp is 73-80 but that is not possible to maintain where i reside
Print to Syringe: 1. Sterilize syringe (91% isopropyl) and needle (flame)as well as surrounding counters and hands 2. Sterilize a glass and cover with foil, with 10CC distilled water inside 3. Open print bag, and WITH sterile needle scrape 1/5 of a print into glass which now has the foil pulled back to allow such an action 4. Hastily recover with tin foil, poke hole with needle and syringe and suck spore solution into syringe
Syringe to MycoBag: Precursor: I will be using 2 lb rye mycobags that have been pre-sterilized ( I like to do things myself but with previous contam issues i opted to try this way) they have a self healing injector port, with an air filter for FAE 1. Inject 5CC into mycobag ( I realize that may be alot of spore solution, but faster colonization right, if that is confirmed i might even do 10 CC) 2. Set out with exposure to normal daylight until 50% colonized 3. Shake bags and let colonize to 100%
MycoBag to Tubs: Prep: 1. Sterilize tubs and 2 garbage bag (with isopropyl) 2. Line Tub with garbage bag and tape into place 3. Cut 2 pill bottle size holes on each side of tubs and garbage bags (above substrate level) 4. Cover these holes with Duct Tape Transfer 1. Add 5 Lbs of 50/50 to each tub 2. Open rye bags and dump the 2 Lb contents into each tub 3. Mix thoroughly 4. Apply Lid to Tub and Put in a contractor bag (thick black garbage bag) 5. Check back every 2 weeks for full colonization Fruiting 1. Remove Contractor bag, lid, and duct tape 2. Fill holes with polyfill 3. Wait till pins begin to form!
Thank you for your input guys, anything and everything helps! When i get going ( in a week or so) i will link a grow log for each strain to this thread so you guys and look forward to that (and maybe coach me along!) :3
- Happy Shrooming!
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Re: Palenque & B+ Grow Logs coming soon, advice? [Re: noobtoke]
#19482224 - 01/27/14 04:30 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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70% alcohol is better suited then 91, never wipe after you flame don't tape your liner it will defeat the purpose you also want 2 holes at the top,one on each short side no need to put it in a garbage bag either good luck
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Re: Palenque & B+ Grow Logs coming soon, advice? [Re: cronicr]
#19482233 - 01/27/14 04:34 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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cronicr said: 70% alcohol is better suited then 91, never wipe after you flame don't tape your liner it will defeat the purpose you also want 2 holes at the top,one on each short side no need to put it in a garbage bag either good luck
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THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT!
A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
*** *** AFGHAN KUSH GROW LOG *** ***
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noobtoke
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Re: Palenque & B+ Grow Logs coming soon, advice? [Re: PussyFart]
#19482299 - 01/27/14 04:47 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Okay check, awsome guys, although if it has exposure to light ( no garbage bag) wont that cause early pinning?
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cronicr



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Re: Palenque & B+ Grow Logs coming soon, advice? [Re: noobtoke]
#19482306 - 01/27/14 04:48 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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no, light is a secondary pinning trigger meaning it needs full colonization and fae first
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noobtoke
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Re: Palenque & B+ Grow Logs coming soon, advice? [Re: cronicr]
#19482381 - 01/27/14 05:08 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Okay, last thing ive never done mycobags or tubs, just pints, how long if its possible to say (i know there is 1000000 variables) will it take to colonize 1. a 2lb mycobag of rye 2. a 7 LB tub of 50/50 and rye spawn with a 1:2.5 ratio
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noobtoke
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Re: Palenque & B+ Grow Logs coming soon, advice? [Re: noobtoke]
#19482397 - 01/27/14 05:11 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ah, also a less vauge question: what else could be done to induce fruiting i feel like my change in FAE (polyfill instead of ducttape) wont be enough.
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PussyFart
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Re: Palenque & B+ Grow Logs coming soon, advice? [Re: noobtoke]
#19482401 - 01/27/14 05:13 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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noobtoke said: there is 1000000 variables
How is anyone supposed to answer something that has that many variables?
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noobtoke said: Ah, also a less vauge question: what else could be done to induce fruiting i feel like my change in FAE (polyfill instead of ducttape) wont be enough.
It will.....
Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.
Light is a secondary pinning trigger. For tropical species temperature is not a pinning factor.
P. Cubensis are a tropical species. You could colonize at 70F and fruit at 80F with great results.
Light has been proven beneficial during all stages of mycellium growth. Mushrooms like mammals have a circadian rhythm.
You want ambient/indirect light(on a 12/12 schedule preferably) for colonization and consolidation.
You want direct/intense 6500K light on a 12/12 schedule for fruiting.
Optimal temps are mid 70s throughout the whole grow, but anywhere from 65F-80F is acceptable.
Incubation is outdated/uneeded unless temps in the range stated above cannot be kept.
The inside of the jar is always a few degrees warmer than the outside because the mycellium produces heat..mycellium tends to stall at temps above 86F , and contams thrive.
Fruiting at cooler temps tends to produce denser, meatier fruits, while fruiting at higher temps will often produce hollow, less dense stems.
Mycelium should be exposed to ambient room light from day of inoculation as has been known for many years. Light is not a pinning trigger until after full colonization and an increase in air is given, and even then it's a secondary pinning trigger. RR
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THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT!
A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
*** *** AFGHAN KUSH GROW LOG *** ***
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Re: Palenque & B+ Grow Logs coming soon, advice? [Re: PussyFart]
#19482431 - 01/27/14 05:20 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Why thank you i think my questions are answered for now and that the grow will, with enough dedication and as your signature suggests, patience, be a success. Ill Link the Logs as soon as my equipment is in. Thank you Cronicr and Pussyfart feel free to add anything else if it occurs to you!
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