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cronicr



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Re: Extremely short and fat fruits in monotub. [Re: vikingsc]
#19481799 - 01/27/14 03:07 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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all psilocybes have a pellicule though
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Faaip de Oiad



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Re: Extremely short and fat fruits in monotub. [Re: cronicr]
#19481820 - 01/27/14 03:10 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Agree to disagree
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cronicr



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Re: Extremely short and fat fruits in monotub. [Re: Faaip de Oiad]
#19481825 - 01/27/14 03:11 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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In mycology, a partial veil (also called an inner veil, to differentiate it from the "outer" veil, or velum[1]) is a temporary structure of tissue found on the fruiting bodies of some basidiomycete fungi, typically agarics. Its role is to isolate and protect the developing spore-producing surface, represented by gills or tubes, found on the lower surface of the cap. A partial veil, in contrast to a universal veil, extends from the stem surface to the cap edge. The partial veil later disintegrates, once the fruiting body has matured and the spores are ready for dispersal. It might then give rise to a stem ring, or fragments attached to the stem or cap edge. In some mushrooms, both a partial veil and a universal veil may be present.[2] In the immature fruit bodies of some basidiomycete fungi, the partial veil extends from the stem surface to the cap margin and shields the gills during development, and later breaks to expose the mature gills. The presence, absence, or structure of the partial veil is an aid to identification of mushrooms.[2] Some fruit bodies may have both a universal and partial veil, others may have only one or the other, while many lack both types of veils. The partial veil may be membranous or cobwebby, and may have multiple layers. Various adjectives are commonly used to describe the texture of partial veils, such as: membranous, like a membrane; cottony, where the veil tissue is made of separate fibers that may be easily separated like a cotton ball; fibrillose, composed of thin strands and glutinous, with a slimy consistency. Some mushrooms have partial veils which are evanescent, which are so thin and delicate that they disappear after they rupture, or leave merely a faint trace on the stem known as an annular zone[3] or ring zone.[4] Others may leave a persistent annulus (ring). Occasionally, the partial veil adheres to the edge of the cap as shreds of tissue, forming an appendiculate margin. The cobweb-like, fragile partial veil of some mushrooms, especially those in the genus Cortinarius, are known as cortinas. The fibrous threads of the cortina often catch the brown spores as they drop, making them visible as fine brown streaks along the stem. Some species of Agaricus, such as Agaricus arvensis, have a partial veil that resembles a cogwheel.[6] Mycologists Alexander H. Smith and Harry D. Thiers, in their 1964 monograph on the bolete genus Suillus, proposed the term "false veil" to account for those species of Suillus that have a "conspicuous cottony roll" of tissue that originates from the cap margin (especially in young specimens) and never becomes integrated with the stem tissue.[7]
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tripmob
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Re: Extremely short and fat fruits in monotub. [Re: Faaip de Oiad]
#19481831 - 01/27/14 03:12 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Am I the only one who would like a print from one of them midgets? ?..they are deffinatly interesting.
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cronicr



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Re: Extremely short and fat fruits in monotub. [Re: tripmob]
#19481837 - 01/27/14 03:14 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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print/clone probly wouldn't do much for ya, i'm sure it's an enviromental issue and not genetic
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Faaip de Oiad



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Re: Extremely short and fat fruits in monotub. [Re: cronicr]
#19481853 - 01/27/14 03:16 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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I can use google too lol: Pileus: 2–8 cm, Conic to convex, becoming broadly convex to plane in age, may retain a slight umbo, margin even, reddish-cinnamon brown when young becoming golden brown in age, viscid when moist, hygrophanous, glabrous, sometimes with white universal veil remnants decorating the cap, more or less smooth. Flesh whitish, bruising blue in age or where injured. Gills: Adnate to adnexed to sometimes seceding attachment, close, narrow to slightly wider towards the center, at first pallid to gray, becoming dark purplish to blackish in age, somewhat mottled, edges remaining whitish. Spore Print: Blueish violet Stipe: 4–15 cm long, .5–1.5 cm thick, white to yellowish in age, hollow or somewhat stuffed, the well developed veil leaves a persistent white membranous annulus whose surface usually becomes concolorous with the gills because of falling spores, bruising blue or bluish-green when injured. Taste: Farinaceous Odor: Farinaceous Microscopic features: Spores 11.5–17 x 8–11 µm, subellipsoid, basidia 4-spored but sometimes 2- or 3-, pleurocystidia and cheilocystidia present.[7
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cronicr



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Re: Extremely short and fat fruits in monotub. [Re: Faaip de Oiad]
#19481859 - 01/27/14 03:17 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Faaip de Oiad said: I can use google too lol: [7
then you should have right from the start
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Faaip de Oiad



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Re: Extremely short and fat fruits in monotub. [Re: cronicr]
#19481889 - 01/27/14 03:21 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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touche, thats why i said agree to disagree
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tripmob
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Re: Extremely short and fat fruits in monotub. [Re: cronicr]
#19481921 - 01/27/14 03:29 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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those little dudes hold my interest. I would harvest them and drastically change the environmental conditions for the second flush. I would love a more detailed report of the conditions you fruited them in.
Edit: 5 for an interesting grow.
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Edited by tripmob (01/27/14 03:33 PM)
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cronicr



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Re: Extremely short and fat fruits in monotub. [Re: tripmob]
#19482142 - 01/27/14 04:11 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Faaip de Oiad said: touche, thats why i said agree to disagree
agreed
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tripmob said: those little dudes hold my interest. I would harvest them and drastically change the environmental conditions for the second flush. I would love a more detailed report of the conditions you fruited them in.
Edit: 5 for an interesting grow.
the thing is they will probly come out normal for the next flush anyway, most of the stubby"mutants"only come in on the first flush and i believe it's due to not letting the mycelium digest it's meal properly before introducing to fruiting conditions
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Krik
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Re: Extremely short and fat fruits in monotub. [Re: cronicr]
#19482211 - 01/27/14 04:28 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well if nothing else it looks neat.
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Cerebro Policia
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Re: Extremely short and fat fruits in monotub. [Re: tripmob]
#19482335 - 01/27/14 04:57 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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tripmob said: those little dudes hold my interest. I would harvest them and drastically change the environmental conditions for the second flush. I would love a more detailed report of the conditions you fruited them in.
Edit: 5 for an interesting grow.
5 quarts of WBS spawn into Damion5050 coir tek, no casing. I keep the tub in a closet that stays around 70 degrees F. with a fluorescent light on a timer for 12 hours on/off and an air purifier circulating the air. I fan and mist 3 times a day. It's always worked great in the past.
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Edited by Cerebro Policia (01/27/14 05:00 PM)
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vikingsc
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Re: Extremely short and fat fruits in monotub. [Re: Cerebro Policia]
#19482819 - 01/27/14 06:47 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd try RR's tip of more moisture and dunk it after that flush is harvested.
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