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Re: I want to learn to identify psychoactive cacti/Home Depot San Pedro [Re: naum]
    #19479212 - 01/26/14 10:14 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

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Wasn't there a paper recently on this? I'm pretty sure there is a really nice phylogenetic tree floating around based on rather recent DNA research.







Yes, there's this paper:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22859654

The link has a free download link.


I read it last night.  It focuses mostly on Echinopsis sensu lato though, the tree only has 3 species that I recognize as having mescaline.

It would be cool to do a study that focuses on the active clade.  I believe Trichocereus is a better name than Echinopsis for the san pedro-like cacti.  The reason is that Echinopsis is a polyphyletic collection of many different cacti, and I think the concept is too broad.  Rather than lump 15 genera into Echinopsis, I think they should be split back out, with some species moved between genera.


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Re: I want to learn to identify psychoactive cacti/Home Depot San Pedro [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19479249 - 01/26/14 10:23 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

Thanks for the link Alan. Didn't have it after all.:thumbup:


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Re: I want to learn to identify psychoactive cacti/Home Depot San Pedro [Re: karode13]
    #19479849 - 01/27/14 01:47 AM (10 years, 29 days ago)

More food for thought here, on the removal of Trichocereus from Echinopsis, and other related species. T. schickendantzii is proposed to move into Soehrensia

Leucostele terscheckii anyone?

http://cactiguide.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=32082


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Re: I want to learn to identify psychoactive cacti/Home Depot San Pedro [Re: KBG1977]
    #19481141 - 01/27/14 12:34 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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This one will never be sold at Home depot,or any other place that sells cacti in the US:sad:






While this is true 99% of the time, you'd be surprised where a little friendly conversation with a nursery owner can take you.  Seen it happen for myself. :wink:




Ah yeah,I've seen posts on here before where people acquired them by having a private little talk with the nurseryman;)




Last year I found one at a local nursery that was 3.5 to 4 in in diam with a quarter sized pup for $20.  I passed it on to a friend who has better growing conditions than I do for Lophs.  I guess some local collector was moving or something and gave/sold several large specimens (multiple species, just the one loph) to the nursery.  Of course I knew what it was right away, but the folks at the nursery were quite excited to explain what it was, which surprised me.


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Re: I want to learn to identify psychoactive cacti/Home Depot San Pedro [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #25405783 - 08/22/18 05:07 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks Alan


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Re: I want to learn to identify psychoactive cacti/Home Depot San Pedro [Re: kykeion]
    #25405789 - 08/22/18 05:09 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

That would look great in my window:laugh:


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