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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
    #19471785 - 01/25/14 12:10 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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I remember when I graduated from NMSU with a bS in electrical engineering, there where wall street firms and investiment companies recruiting.  they said they always recruited from the engineering school first, because that was where the brains where.  :smirk:

But seriously, I have a BSEE with honors, an AA with a concentration and Japanese and English, and enough credits of  a masters in Engineering Physics and EE, and a minor in mathematics. 

And I read A LOT. 

That's why I don't fall for this 'income equality' horseshit.




Oh, since you apparently are successful, income inequality doesn't exist?  Nobody is saying that you, as a college graduate, should be making the same amount as a HS dropout flipping burgers.  People are questioning why executives are being paid more in a year than the average employee will make in their lifetime.




because in a private company, the board of directors can pay whatever they want to whoever they want.  It is their money.  If someone doesn't like it, don't work for that company.




Wrong, it's the stockholders' money. The board typically holds the majority but t certainly isn't the board's money.


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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19472041 - 01/25/14 01:00 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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I remember when I graduated from NMSU with a bS in electrical engineering, there where wall street firms and investiment companies recruiting.  they said they always recruited from the engineering school first, because that was where the brains where.  :smirk:

But seriously, I have a BSEE with honors, an AA with a concentration and Japanese and English, and enough credits of  a masters in Engineering Physics and EE, and a minor in mathematics. 

And I read A LOT. 

That's why I don't fall for this 'income equality' horseshit.




Oh, since you apparently are successful, income inequality doesn't exist?  Nobody is saying that you, as a college graduate, should be making the same amount as a HS dropout flipping burgers.  People are questioning why executives are being paid more in a year than the average employee will make in their lifetime.



Idiots and power mad scum are.  I know damn well why they are making more in a year than the average yutz will make in his lifetime.  For a simple example consider professional baseball and basketball stars.  It is value above replacement player. 

If he is a college graduate flipping burgers he should be making the same as a high school dropout flipping burgers.


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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #19472047 - 01/25/14 01:01 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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I remember when I graduated from NMSU with a bS in electrical engineering, there where wall street firms and investiment companies recruiting.  they said they always recruited from the engineering school first, because that was where the brains where.  :smirk:

But seriously, I have a BSEE with honors, an AA with a concentration and Japanese and English, and enough credits of  a masters in Engineering Physics and EE, and a minor in mathematics. 

And I read A LOT. 

That's why I don't fall for this 'income equality' horseshit.




Oh, since you apparently are successful, income inequality doesn't exist?  Nobody is saying that you, as a college graduate, should be making the same amount as a HS dropout flipping burgers.  People are questioning why executives are being paid more in a year than the average employee will make in their lifetime.




because in a private company, the board of directors can pay whatever they want to whoever they want.  It is their money.  If someone doesn't like it, don't work for that company.




Wrong, it's the stockholders' money. The board typically holds the majority but t certainly isn't the board's money.



I believe they are elected by the stockholders to represent them.


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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19472282 - 01/25/14 01:59 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

That they are.


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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #19472457 - 01/25/14 02:41 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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I remember when I graduated from NMSU with a bS in electrical engineering, there where wall street firms and investiment companies recruiting.  they said they always recruited from the engineering school first, because that was where the brains where.  :smirk:

But seriously, I have a BSEE with honors, an AA with a concentration and Japanese and English, and enough credits of  a masters in Engineering Physics and EE, and a minor in mathematics. 

And I read A LOT. 

That's why I don't fall for this 'income equality' horseshit.




Oh, since you apparently are successful, income inequality doesn't exist?  Nobody is saying that you, as a college graduate, should be making the same amount as a HS dropout flipping burgers.  People are questioning why executives are being paid more in a year than the average employee will make in their lifetime.




because in a private company, the board of directors can pay whatever they want to whoever they want.  It is their money.  If someone doesn't like it, don't work for that company.




Wrong, it's the stockholders' money. The board typically holds the majority but t certainly isn't the board's money.




The board is elected by the stockholders to make the decisions.  It certainly isn't the governments job to decide how much money people make.  I would think the exception might be a company or a bank receiving crony-capitalist bailouts/handouts from the government.  then i would assume the government could set the conditions for the money.  But if you notice they didn't because 'the CEO pay/income inequality' bullshit isnt about limiting salaries.  it is about painting an enemy to focus on so the people are distracted from the crony-capitalists and their buddies in the government looting the country.

One other thing, there are individuals that you should focus on making too much money.  It is the government people who you pay to serve you.

But it is no one's fucking business what someone in a private company makes.


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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19472627 - 01/25/14 03:26 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Yeah that's great man, all I said is that it was the stockholders' money.


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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #19473327 - 01/25/14 06:14 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

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Yeah that's great man, all I said is that it was the stockholders' money.





Yeah.  Thats great man.  All I said was

The board is elected by the stockholders to make the decisions.  It certainly isn't the governments job to decide how much money people make.  I would think the exception might be a company or a bank receiving crony-capitalist bailouts/handouts from the government.  then i would assume the government could set the conditions for the money.  But if you notice they didn't because 'the CEO pay/income inequality' bullshit isnt about limiting salaries.  it is about painting an enemy to focus on so the people are distracted from the crony-capitalists and their buddies in the government looting the country.

One other thing, there are individuals that you should focus on making too much money.  It is the government people who you pay to serve you.

But it is no one's fucking business what someone in a private company makes.

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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19474058 - 01/25/14 09:11 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

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Idiots and power mad scum are.  I know damn well why they are making more in a year than the average yutz will make in his lifetime.  For a simple example consider professional baseball and basketball stars.  It is value above replacement player. 

If he is a college graduate flipping burgers he should be making the same as a high school dropout flipping burgers.




You're fucking delusional.


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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19475451 - 01/26/14 06:24 AM (10 years, 29 days ago)

it took me a while to get to the political thread. The ONLY moral political system is laissez faire capitalism. Please dont confuse with crony capitalism. Govt regulation and capitalism mixed = fail= United states= fiscal crisis. If income equality is bringing down the rich so everyone is poor what is the use? Because...if before i made 2 dollars an hour and the rich makes 50..and we both got a raise, rich guy makes 500 now ( but oh no the rich guy is making 500, how unfair!!)..and i make 10, IM STILL DOING BETTER. Greed is not bad..last time i checked i was greedy for my family and greedy for myself when i built a better life. Now stealing is different *cough cough*( "bernie madoff)


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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
    #19475476 - 01/26/14 06:36 AM (10 years, 29 days ago)

ya, they're republicans lol


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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: robbinbanks]
    #19476172 - 01/26/14 10:59 AM (10 years, 29 days ago)

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it took me a while to get to the political thread. The ONLY moral political system is laissez faire capitalism. Please dont confuse with crony capitalism. Govt regulation and capitalism mixed = fail= United states= fiscal crisis. If income equality is bringing down the rich so everyone is poor what is the use? Because...if before i made 2 dollars an hour and the rich makes 50..and we both got a raise, rich guy makes 500 now ( but oh no the rich guy is making 500, how unfair!!)..and i make 10, IM STILL DOING BETTER. Greed is not bad..last time i checked i was greedy for my family and greedy for myself when i built a better life. Now stealing is different *cough cough*( "bernie madoff)




And here I thought the least coherent point had already been made.


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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #19476311 - 01/26/14 11:35 AM (10 years, 29 days ago)

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it took me a while to get to the political thread. The ONLY moral political system is laissez faire capitalism. Please dont confuse with crony capitalism. Govt regulation and capitalism mixed = fail= United states= fiscal crisis. If income equality is bringing down the rich so everyone is poor what is the use? Because...if before i made 2 dollars an hour and the rich makes 50..and we both got a raise, rich guy makes 500 now ( but oh no the rich guy is making 500, how unfair!!)..and i make 10, IM STILL DOING BETTER. Greed is not bad..last time i checked i was greedy for my family and greedy for myself when i built a better life. Now stealing is different *cough cough*( "bernie madoff)




And here I thought the least coherent point had already been made.



his point actually makes a lot of sense.


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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19476446 - 01/26/14 12:03 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

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Idiots and power mad scum are.  I know damn well why they are making more in a year than the average yutz will make in his lifetime.  For a simple example consider professional baseball and basketball stars.  It is value above replacement player. 

If he is a college graduate flipping burgers he should be making the same as a high school dropout flipping burgers.




You're fucking delusional.



No I'm not, you are.  Do you really think anybody would pay money to see you play shortstop for the Yankees?


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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: psyconaught]
    #19476860 - 01/26/14 01:29 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

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it took me a while to get to the political thread. The ONLY moral political system is laissez faire capitalism. Please dont confuse with crony capitalism. Govt

regulation and capitalism mixed = fail= United states= fiscal crisis. If income equality is bringing down the rich so everyone is poor what is the use? Because...if before i made 2 dollars an hour and the rich makes 50..and we both got a raise, rich guy makes 500 now ( but oh no the rich guy is making 500, how unfair!!)..and i make 10, IM STILL DOING BETTER. Greed is not bad..last time i checked i was greedy for my family and greedy for myself when i built a better life. Now stealing is different *cough cough*( "bernie madoff)




And here I thought the least coherent point had already been made.



his point actually makes a lot of sense.




Yeah especially the part about income equality bringing down the rich.

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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #19476991 - 01/26/14 01:58 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

thats the line of thinking a lot of people have unfortunately. The rich make too much money, so we need to take away some of it (higher taxes) so others can have more.


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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #19477044 - 01/26/14 02:12 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

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That's why I don't fall for this 'income equality' horseshit.




:lolwut:

That was brilliant, I remember a time when it took a smart person to have all that education. No you are right, all that 'income inequality' shit is bullshit, good thing you have all those bachelors and masters :smirk:


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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19477131 - 01/26/14 02:35 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

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Oh, since you apparently are successful, income inequality doesn't exist?  Nobody is saying that you, as a college graduate, should be making the same amount as a HS dropout flipping burgers.  People are questioning why executives are being paid more in a year than the average employee will make in their lifetime.




because in a private company, the board of directors can pay whatever they want to whoever they want.  It is their money.  If someone doesn't like it, don't work for that company.




Wrong, it's the stockholders' money. The board typically holds the majority but t certainly isn't the board's money.




The board is elected by the stockholders to make the decisions.  It certainly isn't the governments job to decide how much money people make.  I would think the exception might be a company or a bank receiving crony-capitalist bailouts/handouts from the government.  then i would assume the government could set the conditions for the money.  But if you notice they didn't because 'the CEO pay/income inequality' bullshit isnt about limiting salaries.  it is about painting an enemy to focus on so the people are distracted from the crony-capitalists and their buddies in the government looting the country.

One other thing, there are individuals that you should focus on making too much money.  It is the government people who you pay to serve you.

But it is no one's fucking business what someone in a private company makes.




You act as though a business is like real estate, its owned by you and just you. Bullshit, in real estate there is eminent domain. When a company goes public and accepts an ipo they give up a percentage of shares, they no longer have entirety ownership. You pay taxes so the government protects you. People have a right and privilege to live in this country, not a guarantee. Therefore its the fucking governments business. If we didnt live within the structure of the government that set laws on how business runs and politicians werent elected to set those laws and people couldnt vote on politicians then itd be nobodies business. But it is. For sure what is none of your fucking business is what politician or laws I prefer and support. None what so ever, who died and made you president or someone who pays majority taxes, huh?


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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #19477150 - 01/26/14 02:43 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

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Yeah that's great man, all I said is that it was the stockholders' money.




Some ceos own less then 5% of the company. This is a tired old argumeny based on ego no one will listen to you its pure stupidity. You know the difference between penny stock and the wealthiest stock? Commission for brokers for penny is 50% and for the wealthiest 1%

Who says this country is fair and that business practice is nobodies business is so full of shit. 50% of businesses are as crooked as the employees hire. Its absolutely everybodys business when the stability of the country that taxes these companies and protects us and provides our freedom is in question.

Starfire Xes isnt in the 1%, his taxes arent shit and he doesnt provide my freedom unless he joined the marines. Dont ask me what he is barking about or why he thinks his opinion is so important


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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: imachavel]
    #19477282 - 01/26/14 03:22 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

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The board is elected by the stockholders to make the decisions.  It certainly isn't the governments job to decide how much money people make.  I would think the exception might be a company or a bank receiving crony-capitalist bailouts/handouts from the government.  then i would assume the government could set the conditions for the money.  But if you notice they didn't because 'the CEO pay/income inequality' bullshit isnt about limiting salaries.  it is about painting an enemy to focus on so the people are distracted from the crony-capitalists and their buddies in the government looting the country.

One other thing, there are individuals that you should focus on making too much money.  It is the government people who you pay to serve you.

But it is no one's fucking business what someone in a private company makes.




You act as though a business is like real estate, its owned by you and just you. Bullshit, in real estate there is eminent domain. When a company goes public and accepts an ipo they give up a percentage of shares, they no longer have entirety ownership. You pay taxes so the government protects you. People have a right and privilege to live in this country, not a guarantee. Therefore its the fucking governments business. If we didnt live within the structure of the government that set laws on how business runs and politicians werent elected to set those laws and people couldnt vote on politicians then itd be nobodies business. But it is. For sure what is none of your fucking business is what politician or laws I prefer and support. None what so ever, who died and made you president or someone who pays majority taxes, huh?



Where does eminent domain factor?  It doesn't.  My business is owned by me and only me.  My wife's is owned by her and her alone.  I have no obligation to make money to maximize the tax revenue it generates.  Most businesses are NOT publicly traded.  Living in this country is either a right or a privilege, not both.  In regard to publicly traded companies there are varying classes of stock.  Look at the NY Times.  Except for the shares held by the family most are not voting shares.

You go on and on and on with these rants that have almost no basis in reality.  Go get a fucking job you can do and stop with the bullshit.


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Re: A word to all the democrats and left wingers on here [Re: imachavel]
    #19477301 - 01/26/14 03:27 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

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Yeah that's great man, all I said is that it was the stockholders' money.




Some ceos own less then 5% of the company. This is a tired old argumeny based on ego no one will listen to you its pure stupidity. You know the difference between penny stock and the wealthiest stock? Commission for brokers for penny is 50% and for the wealthiest 1%




Whether they own 100% or 0% is none of your concern regarding their pay level.  There are a lot more differences between penny stocks and legit stocks than the commission a broker is paid and I suspect you are completely full of shit about the commissions.
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Who says this country is fair and that business practice is nobodies business is so full of shit. 50% of businesses are as crooked as the employees hire. Its absolutely everybodys business when the stability of the country that taxes these companies and protects us and provides our freedom is in question.




We do not work for the government.  The government works for us.  You seem to have that backward.
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Starfire Xes isnt in the 1%, his taxes arent shit and he doesnt provide my freedom unless he joined the marines. Dont ask me what he is barking about or why he thinks his opinion is so important




I don't believe many people even bother to read your disjointed nonsense.  It is as predictable a whine as there is.  Boo hoo somebody else is making money and I'm not.  Get your shit together.


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