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PussyFart
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Re: Changed terrarium, now having trouble [Re: ToadKnowledge]
#19478906 - 01/26/14 09:02 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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ToadKnowledge said: Have you ever personally used a glass terrarium? Are you speaking from experience or just saying that it'll fruit poorly?
Glass aquariums have sucked for years, they do not allow for constant FAE.
A plastic tub the can be drilled is better.
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ToadKnowledge
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Re: Changed terrarium, now having trouble [Re: PussyFart]
#19479012 - 01/26/14 09:25 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh ok, because I read on another thread that someone said "glass terrariums have worked for years" lol The one I have actually provides a lot of FAE. If it didn't then the shrooms wouldn't of have started growing in the first place. I guess it's just about what works best for you just like everything else in life.
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Re: Changed terrarium, now having trouble [Re: ToadKnowledge]
#19479157 - 01/26/14 10:00 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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ToadKnowledge said: The one I have actually provides a lot of FAE. If it didn't then the shrooms wouldn't of have started growing in the first place.
Not true.
Just because you have fruits does not mean they are getting enough FAE.
A glass aquarium in no way dissipates gasses as good as a SGFC.
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vikingsc
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Re: Changed terrarium, now having trouble [Re: ToadKnowledge]
#19479162 - 01/26/14 10:02 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Perlite shouldn't change consistency at all when wet. You're sure it was perlite you had? Like he said it's a rock. It's its porous surface that manages to have a lot of surface area hence a lot of water on the surface. A glass terrarium only held humidity better because you had little to no Fresh air exchange. Your cakes need FAE. Don't trust the cheap meter. Keep them in the SGFC. How long does it take for the moisture on the sides of the walls take to evaporate after you heavily mist it?
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Re: Changed terrarium, now having trouble [Re: PussyFart]
#19479167 - 01/26/14 10:03 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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At the end of the day we are still eating them lol
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PussyFart
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Re: Changed terrarium, now having trouble [Re: vikingsc]
#19479170 - 01/26/14 10:04 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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vikingsc said: A glass terrarium only held humidity better because you had little to no Fresh air exchange.
This makes no sense.
The humidity level would be lower without proper air exchange, not higher.
Fresh air causes evaporation, which causes the humidity to rise, not fall.
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Re: Changed terrarium, now having trouble [Re: ToadKnowledge]
#19479179 - 01/26/14 10:06 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok, wait so if they are grown in the glass, can I die from eating the shrooms? Because they aren't grown properly? This isn't a sarcastic question, I don't know about this stuff.
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PussyFart
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Re: Changed terrarium, now having trouble [Re: ToadKnowledge]
#19479182 - 01/26/14 10:06 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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No, they should be just fine to eat no matter how healthy they are.
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Re: Changed terrarium, now having trouble [Re: PussyFart]
#19479221 - 01/26/14 10:16 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Interesting.
Well from both chambers I got:
Glass: 70 degrees, 100% humidity, mist 3/4 times a day and fan 5/6 times a day.
SGFC: 70 degrees, 70 - 80% humidity, mist 3/4 times a day and fan 5/6 times a day.
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Re: Changed terrarium, now having trouble [Re: ToadKnowledge]
#19479225 - 01/26/14 10:17 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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ToadKnowledge said: Interesting.
Well from both chambers I got:
Glass: 70 degrees, 100% humidity, mist 3/4 times a day and fan 5/6 times a day.
SGFC: 70 degrees, 70 - 80% humidity, mist 3/4 times a day and fan 5/6 times a day.
Results from a cheap unreliable chinese made hygrometer I bet.
Throw that thing out and build a proper SGFC is my advice.
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ToadKnowledge
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Re: Changed terrarium, now having trouble [Re: PussyFart]
#19479242 - 01/26/14 10:21 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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The SGFC is properly built. What hygrometer do you suggest i buy? I got mine at Walmart for 9 bucks. Even if it were cheap. 100% vs 75% is a big jump. What do you suggest I buy?
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Re: Changed terrarium, now having trouble [Re: ToadKnowledge]
#19480289 - 01/27/14 07:31 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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ToadKnowledge said: The SGFC is properly built. What hygrometer do you suggest i buy?
Nothing.
There is no need for a hygrometer unless you have a greenhouse.
All it is going to do is fuck with your head.
If the SGFC was built right the humidity will be perfect regardless of what some cheap hygrometer says.
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Re: Changed terrarium, now having trouble [Re: PussyFart]
#19480674 - 01/27/14 10:24 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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a 9$ hygrometer could be upwards of 50% off. Shit my city's "calibrated" speed radar ticket in the mail things had errors in the double digits before they scrapped that program and those were "professional" contractors, let alone a plastic chinese hygrometer.
The only good hygrometers are the ones made for salons to measure synthetic hair. IE synthetic hair hygrometer, and the ones for cigar boxes that are analog and calibrateable and you'll still have to calibrate weekly. it's really not worth the cost since a properly built SGFC is putting you above 95% anyway no matter what your pos hygrometer says.
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Re: Changed terrarium, now having trouble [Re: ToadKnowledge]
#19480787 - 01/27/14 11:02 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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ToadKnowledge said: hmmm, close but no cigar. The humidity is at 90% now.
90% isn't bad. My house gets very dry in the winter and the RH in my FC regularly drops as low as 87% without causing me any problems.
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Re: Changed terrarium, now having trouble [Re: MudaFuka]
#19480798 - 01/27/14 11:07 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've never put a hygrometer in my SGFC and it's always worked perfect. I would suspect If I had put one in my SGFC I would be paranoid all the time at the weird numbers I would see. Humidity in a sgfc is something you should fly blind on. The mushrooms themselves are the best hygrometer you'll find they'll let you know if it's not humid enough. Watch the mushrooms not some dial.
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Re: Changed terrarium, now having trouble [Re: bodhisatta]
#19480919 - 01/27/14 11:51 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Great advice guys.
Yea currently I have 5 in the glass tank at 100% humidity and just put two new ones in the SGFC. The Humidity in the SGFC is at a steady 90% now. I'll let it sit. Might even put the 5 cakes in the SGFC and the two new ones in the glass tank for space. Is space crucial in their growth?
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Re: Changed terrarium, now having trouble [Re: ToadKnowledge]
#19480926 - 01/27/14 11:52 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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enough space for the shrooms to grow is about it.
something tells me the ones in the SGFC will do better.
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Re: Changed terrarium, now having trouble [Re: bodhisatta]
#19480939 - 01/27/14 11:56 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: enough space for the shrooms to grow is about it.
something tells me the ones in the SGFC will do better.
FAE is more important than RH. I don't even worry about humidity. as long as my subs don't look dry and my fruits look healthy who cares what the humidity is.
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Re: Changed terrarium, now having trouble [Re: bodhisatta]
#19480943 - 01/27/14 11:57 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Like they said a properly constructed SGFC will hold 95% humidity even in a desert. Don't trust cheap hygro's.
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Re: Changed terrarium, now having trouble [Re: bodhisatta]
#19480955 - 01/27/14 12:00 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Is this enough space? If not I'll switch it to the SGFC. 
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