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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: Mr. Tojo]
    #19474743 - 01/26/14 12:10 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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It seems to me he's not complaining about the thread being bumped, but rather about the content of it. :facepalm:



I'm pretty sure he meant the thread. Have you read the thread? It full of ridiculous.


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: TopPmz]
    #19474781 - 01/26/14 12:18 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Yeah, I read most of it, hence the :facepalm:


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: TopPmz]
    #19474798 - 01/26/14 12:22 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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It seems to me he's not complaining about the thread being bumped, but rather about the content of it. :facepalm:



I'm pretty sure he meant the thread. Have you read the thread? It full of ridiculous insight and wisdom.




There we go. All better.


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: greenterror] * 2
    #19474842 - 01/26/14 12:36 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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My name is Sean Martin.  I turned twenty years old yesterday.  I was a kid of the new generation, one of many whom seeks change in this world.  I seek a prosperous world where equality is more than an idea we are working towards, but an idea we have achieved and practice in our lives.  I seek a world of freedom, a world free of oppression, a world free of tyranny and the violence tyrants must impose to keep their place.  I seek a world where we are free of fear.  I stand for peace.

My philosophy on how the world should operate directly conflicts with the ideology of the governments of the world.  I will be killed in the hands of the cartels of the world that represent this oppressive authority.  My death will symbolize the turning point of mankind, it is the turn of the equinox.

Upon my death, the world economies will collapse.  All governments and cartels will lose authority over their followers.  We will meet a world that is no longer ruled by the law of man, but by the rule nature, the rule of karma.

Initially, we will be confronted by a society of striving tyrants.  As the understanding of how our actions are interconnected expands, the underlying actions themselves will too change.  Every action has an equal and opposing reaction.  Every action you make will forever change the actions of the universe around you and those in it.  Your will is the deciding factor of your destiny.

I am now a kid at heart taking the role of a man to sacrifice his life for the betterment of the world.  I have overcame terror of death and the illusion of nothingness that it is feared to be.  Nothing can't exist for there is always something, that something is what makes up you, me and everything we see.  That something is the essence of our existence, call it what you want, energy, consciousness, god or love, it is everywhere you go and in each and every one of you.

You are the universe, you are limitless, you are infinitly powerful, and with unity, we can do anything.

Upon my death, this message must be spread far and wide.  Humans must believe in one another and work together as humanity was intended to do.

Upon my death, we must abandon our instinctive reaction of greed for a supreme action of love, compassion and empathy towards our brothers and sisters.

Upon my death, we must fight hatred with peace and this is achievable through the united effort of man kind.

Upon my death, I am calling for you all to peacefully rally to the streets.  Rally to the capital, rally throughout the world and let them know we will no longer stand by idly as corrupt officials steal from their people and kill their people.  We will no longer allow this oppression to exist.  We will no longer fear them, their army, their weapons or the concept of death.

Upon my death, I will be at peace, free from the fear and negativity that constrains earth.  When the world is at peace, we will reunite.

You can kill hate, you can kill fear, you can erase nothing, but you cannot kill love.  You cannot kill god.  You cannot kill the infinite power of the universe.  You cannot stop karma.

We are earth.  We are one.  Together, we will unite.  Together, nothing can stop us.  Together, we will be free.

Are you with me?




Hey, if you change one letter in your name, it becomes "Dean Martin".



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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: Robo]
    #19526441 - 02/05/14 04:29 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Would one of you please care to please explain to me how a man made hierarchical system of oppression that operates off an ever inflating debt based monetary system can sustain itself for indefinite time?


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: greenterror]
    #19526476 - 02/05/14 04:35 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Would one of you please care to please explain to me how a man made hierarchical system of oppression that operates off an ever inflating debt based monetary system can sustain itself for indefinite time?



It's not supposed to sustain us, it's supposed to sustain the 1%. The sad part is, as flawed as it is, it's totally doable if people used their heads about it. Society needs more of a system that values what we all can do for eachother, not what we get from eachother, and buy with what they owed me. It should be, that I work -> here, and I get everything that everyone else deserves and gets that works within that system. Quid pro quo. "I do you, you do me."


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: greenterror]
    #19526519 - 02/05/14 04:43 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Would one of you please care to please explain to me how a man made hierarchical system of oppression that operates off an ever inflating debt based monetary system can sustain itself for indefinite time?



The debt is created to feed the bums who don't produce


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #19526527 - 02/05/14 04:44 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Which leads to why we must abandon money to be truly free.  If people aren't thinking "what can I do to make the most money" they'll be thinking "what can I do to help the most people" and thus attain the must energy.

Positive energy is infinitely abundant and brings more happiness and power than any material good.  To remove money from society is to remove the tool that facilitates greed and would ultimately lead to a society of peace.

Karma would play it's role on a natural level and those that attempt to devoid others of their freedom would be devoided of their life.

Until the day we abandon our childish ways of greed and become a family, an elite group of oppressors will continue to exist at the top of the chain while imposing their will against your liberty for their gain.


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19526533 - 02/05/14 04:46 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Would one of you please care to please explain to me how a man made hierarchical system of oppression that operates off an ever inflating debt based monetary system can sustain itself for indefinite time?



The debt is created to feed the bums who don't produce




If you mean the self proclaimed rulers of the world bums who don't produce, then you are correct.


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: greenterror]
    #19526543 - 02/05/14 04:49 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Would one of you please care to please explain to me how a man made hierarchical system of oppression that operates off an ever inflating debt based monetary system can sustain itself for indefinite time?



The debt is created to feed the bums who don't produce




If you mean the self proclaimed rulers of the world bums who don't produce, then you are correct.



No, I mean the piece of shit welfare bums on the public tit with no jobs


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19526559 - 02/05/14 04:52 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

They do not see the money the fed prints.  It goes straight to the banks.

You do realize the government motivates people to not work by paying them off, right?  Another flaw about communism fascism "capitalism".


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: greenterror]
    #19526626 - 02/05/14 05:05 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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They do not see the money the fed prints.  It goes straight to the banks.

You do realize the government motivates people to not work by paying them off, right?  Another flaw about communism fascism "capitalism".




That isn't capitalism.  The Fed doesn't print money


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #19526724 - 02/05/14 05:28 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Some subjects are so serious that one can only joke about them.- Niels bohr


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19526731 - 02/05/14 05:30 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

The Federal Reserve does print the money.  And the fed is a private institution, it's not federally operated.


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: greenterror] * 1
    #19526741 - 02/05/14 05:32 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Why are you talking about pointless details like money, I thought you were Jesus.


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #19526784 - 02/05/14 05:41 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Because money is a tool that is used to enslave the world.  Once we disband money, all that is left is to disband fear itself.

A moneyless world would enable/catalyze this process exponentially.

I wouldn't say it's pointless at all, for it is an essential ingredient that gives the tyrants their power and control over their minions.

If we repeat our mistake after the dollar is gone and partake in another monetary system, we are choosing our own doom and the following generations' enslavement.


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: greenterror]
    #19527725 - 02/05/14 08:55 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

Greenterror dude, what you need to understand (once you're done with your Bambi FBI Mexican drug cartel delusions) is that the universe, EXACTLY as it is, is complete, perfect and functional. It works and always has and always will. All of it. You included.

The only struggle, frustration and misguided tendencies to change it comes from being confused about how it works. Money is camouflage, hypnosis used by the mighty, strong and able, to rule over the weak, stupid, misguided and unproductive. Same for other types of meaningless paper, like say, the US Constitution, or meaningless status symbols like the White House, Stars and Stripes, Pledge of Allegiance and all that crap. Nothing against US, all "countries" work like this. They're temporary human organizations, rough blueprints of what might work in terms of group behavior. In reality, the planet has always been and always will be in anarchy, much like the rest of the ecosystem. Within that anarchy, groups of primates get together, and try to survive and thrive as well as they can. There's no difference whatsoever in how wildlife is organized and how humans are organized. It's all similar, continuous and functional.

Whoever can display bewildering camouflage or convincing attributes and hypnotize or enlist the rest, gets the protein, sugar and/or mating opportunities at the end of the day. Within one's own species or without. Whoever can outrun, hide, protect through armor, impress, surprise, overwhelm, find safety in numbers or use some other type of effective means to outsmart and navigate the environment, will thrive, live to tell the tale, prosper enjoy and multiply.

There's a reason why you, OP, are sitting at a computer, have pretty much non-existent power in this reality, probably still have to rely on parents for food and shelter, and you dream of changing the world with some ludicrous means like the above mentioned conspiracy killing you, UFO's bringing you back to life and so on. Because for the most part you lack the ability to change anything in reality. You don't yet have the leadership power to gather enough peers around you, the shrewdness and skill to gather the resources (money or otherwise) to make any dent in anything, so that's why there are these ridiculous stories going through your head. Look at your success on the shroomery and you'll find it mirrors your success offline.

We could abolish money tomorrow, the nature of the universe will still remain exactly the same. There will always be camouflage, accurate senses and processing power that sees through it and also mindless prey that remains confounded. There will always be those who effectively create safety and power in numbers and have their way, and those who stay alone, cluelessly wishing and hoping, basically waiting to be pushed around or integrated into larger systems they were not smart enough to design and implement.

So far, judging by your posts, you're well within this later group. Enjoy your confusion and servitude, walk on the prescribed lines laid down by those stronger and more capable than you, and hope that one day you will awaken and get what's going on.

Look at ANY part of the ecosystem, you will see that all beings have means to thrive, IF they act according to their specific size and shape and strengths and weaknesses. Sloths don't rely on speed, cuttlefish don't rely on armor, birds don't rely on sheer mass. Once you understand where and what you are, specifically, you'll very much find ways to deal with your reality and thrive.

Starting point is no, talking about abolishing money here, on the shroomery, will do nothing. This is a shroom-related forum. We have no effect on fiat currency, nor are we that interested in taking on the powers that do. In theory you could learn about video editing and make another Zeitgeist-type call to action, but in practice you probably won't. I'd stick to guitar and take on some smaller goals than changing the economy on this planet. Try maybe attracting a female first and a solid group of non-nerdy friends. Just a thought.


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19527842 - 02/05/14 09:19 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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Would one of you please care to please explain to me how a man made hierarchical system of oppression that operates off an ever inflating debt based monetary system can sustain itself for indefinite time?



The debt is created to feed the bums who don't produce




If you mean the self proclaimed rulers of the world bums who don't produce, then you are correct.



No, I mean the piece of shit welfare bums on the public tit with no jobs



I am with zappa on this one (Frank is the fucking man by the way :thumbup:)

First of all, this dude seems incredibly self absorbed. You don't speak out of opinion but as if this is some secret thing that only somebody as "brilliant, blessed and enlightened" as you is meant to know and preach. You speak about your death as if you are the worlds savior whom will be murdered, and we will be without our messiah from there on out.

Secondly, Capitalism isn't the issue here, in fact, our good buddy Obama has dismantled capitalism and took the pride out of being a hard working individual, so any of this conspiracy bullshit you're speaking about is unfolding just as this douche bag president is turning our Country from a Capitalist one to a socialist, soon to be communist one. So don't try to make Capitalism your little scapegoat, Socialism is a fucking disaster.

I personally don't care if I sound like an asshole, once you start speaking as if freeloading pieces of shit are the ones we need to look up to, you completely lost me. Typical though, you like to feel like you have no control over this happening, because God forbid you have to put effort into improving your own destiny, it's a lot easier just to refuse to contribute to society behind hollow claims of this illuminati-esque conspiracy of yours. For heavens sake though, please, do not speak like 95% of this idiotic generation and tell me you don't want to work because you "refuse to feed the capitalist machine", because you'd be full of shit. Those people don't work because they want and feel entitled to handouts and are too worthless and lazy to get off their fat ass and do a Goddamn thing about it.

Oh well, this became political, I couldn't help it.

By the way, just because you and your buddies took MIND ALTERING DRUGS and they saw you as Jesus doesn't mean a fucking thing man. I won't lie, I went through this foolish phase of believing I was in some way enlightened, never to the extent you are displaying, but still somewhat there. When I read that your friends saw you as Jesus and them as disciples, I cringed. What a fucking unbelievably big headed claim to make. So you believe all this hippy bull crap through psychedelics, yet your ego is larger than everybody on this forum combined. Those psychedelics have really done you well I see, keep using them to feed that ego of yours. Please my Lord, do not banish me to Hell for my words.



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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: rulesq]
    #19528096 - 02/05/14 10:17 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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CIA was watching me in front of my parents house before I got into drugs.  Many of my friends saw the bikes circling the house.  Many of them heard them rev their engines..




seems like you already had some paranoid thoughts before tripping and tripping blew them out of proportion. there's been other members on here like that. one guy even thought the vatican and the pope-man himself were after him.  somewhere along your tripping path you too lost control over these thoughts and you decided to let them take over to chase some delusional paranoid high. just take a second to at least consider that possibility. hopefully you're not too far gone to reel back down.


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: greenterror]
    #19528152 - 02/05/14 10:35 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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6. I bought a pair of trippy pants I saw at a thrift shop with a friend and began wearing them in public to spread love.
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This sentence won my subscription.

I remember when I used to wear hippie clothes and strangers on the street called me Jesus. :lol:


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