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Huminuh
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HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long?
#19473917 - 01/25/14 08:32 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have mason jars filled with corn. I did all the right steps of soaking, simmering, filling and sterilizing. I injected with Cambodian and another strain ly something thai. It has been 3 weeks and they don't look right at all. The jars walls have a very thin layer of a light streaky film of white but its hardish to see without light but they haven't clumped yet. The spores were quite old i don't remember exactly it has been close to a year. A little bit less than that but is that the main problem? And any advice using corn would be helpfull
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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: Huminuh]
#19473924 - 01/25/14 08:35 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Huminuh said: It has been 3 weeks and they don't look right at all. The jars walls have a very thin layer of a light streaky film of white but its hardish to see without light but they haven't clumped yet.
Doesn't sound good. A picture is worth a thousand words.
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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: Huminuh]
#19473928 - 01/25/14 08:36 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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What's your lid setup? You getting decent gas exchange?
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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? *DELETED* [Re: vikingsc]
#19473982 - 01/25/14 08:52 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: stevo]
#19474084 - 01/25/14 09:19 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sounds like no gas exchange, and\or a bacterial bloom. Or bad spores.
My corn from MS syringes took 5-10 days to show myc.
Myc. is pretty hard to miss. I don't think you have what you want growing in your jars dude.
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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: vikingsc]
#19474086 - 01/25/14 09:19 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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No they have a layer of tin foil and a fully screwed plastic lid on it
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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: Huminuh]
#19474095 - 01/25/14 09:21 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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so... how are you getting gas exchange?
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Huminuh
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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: kaptanoblivious]
#19474100 - 01/25/14 09:23 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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None so can i still get air exchange and they will start they aren't contaminated or anything
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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: Huminuh]
#19474104 - 01/25/14 09:24 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Huminuh said: No they have a layer of tin foil and a fully screwed plastic lid on it
That's what I figured. You choked your myc to death. You need a proper lid setup. You're getting zero gas exchange.
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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: vikingsc]
#19474114 - 01/25/14 09:28 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Darn alright thanks for everyones help
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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: vikingsc]
#19474126 - 01/25/14 09:29 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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We need pics!
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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19474146 - 01/25/14 09:36 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sgt. Pepper said: We need pics!
There was zero gas exchange. We don't really need a pic to know that was the issue.
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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: vikingsc]
#19474150 - 01/25/14 09:38 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: vikingsc]
#19474166 - 01/25/14 09:42 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is about what your jar lids should look like: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12880657
I high temp silicone the Tyvek on rather than micropore tape it on.
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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: vikingsc]
#19474169 - 01/25/14 09:43 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sgt. Pepper said: We need pics!
There was zero gas exchange. We don't really need a pic to know that was the issue.
I suppose, but what if it's just contamed. Don't jars without gas exchange at least show a little healthy growth before stalling? What if he finds a way to get that jar some ge and it just turns out to be bacteria anyways.
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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: Huminuh]
#19474179 - 01/25/14 09:46 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Huminuh said: The jars walls have a very thin layer of a light streaky film of white but its hardish to see without light but they haven't clumped yet.
All the signs of zero gas exchange. That's why I asked about his lids.
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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: vikingsc]
#19474189 - 01/25/14 09:47 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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vikingsc said:
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Huminuh said: The jars walls have a very thin layer of a light streaky film of white but its hardish to see without light but they haven't clumped yet.
All the signs of zero gas exchange. That's why I asked about his lids.
Gotcha and I totally trust your knowledge, it just kinda reminded me of bacteria on agar.
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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? *DELETED* [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19475411 - 01/26/14 06:12 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: stevo]
#19476028 - 01/26/14 10:10 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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It isn't contaminated. Does the ziplock bag have closed in the tub? Or partially open?
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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: Huminuh]
#19476053 - 01/26/14 10:19 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Or just switch out your lids with some lids with filtered gas exchange in a SAB.
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