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HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long?
    #19473917 - 01/25/14 08:32 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I have mason jars filled with corn. I did all the right steps of soaking, simmering, filling and sterilizing. I injected with Cambodian and another strain ly something thai. It has been 3 weeks and they don't look right at all. The jars walls have a very thin layer of a light streaky film of white but its hardish to see without light but they haven't clumped yet. The spores were quite old i don't remember exactly it has been close to a year. A little bit less than that but is that the main problem? And any advice using corn would be helpfull

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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: Huminuh]
    #19473924 - 01/25/14 08:35 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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It has been 3 weeks and they don't look right at all. The jars walls have a very thin layer of a light streaky film of white but its hardish to see without light but they haven't clumped yet.




Doesn't sound good.  A picture is worth a thousand words.


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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: Huminuh]
    #19473928 - 01/25/14 08:36 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

What's your lid setup? You getting decent gas exchange?

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    #19473982 - 01/25/14 08:52 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: stevo]
    #19474084 - 01/25/14 09:19 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds like no gas exchange, and\or a bacterial bloom. Or bad spores.

My corn from MS syringes took 5-10 days to show myc.

Myc. is pretty hard to miss. I don't think you have what you want growing in your jars dude. :frown:


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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: vikingsc]
    #19474086 - 01/25/14 09:19 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

No they have a layer of tin foil and a fully screwed plastic lid on it

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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: Huminuh]
    #19474095 - 01/25/14 09:21 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

so... how are you getting gas exchange?


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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: kaptanoblivious]
    #19474100 - 01/25/14 09:23 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

None :frown: so can i still get air exchange and they will start they aren't contaminated or anything

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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: Huminuh]
    #19474104 - 01/25/14 09:24 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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No they have a layer of tin foil and a fully screwed plastic lid on it



That's what I figured. You choked your myc to death. You need a proper lid setup. You're getting zero gas exchange.

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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: vikingsc]
    #19474114 - 01/25/14 09:28 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Darn alright thanks for everyones help

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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: vikingsc]
    #19474126 - 01/25/14 09:29 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

We need pics!


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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19474146 - 01/25/14 09:36 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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We need pics!



There was zero gas exchange. We don't really need a pic to know that was the issue.

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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: vikingsc]
    #19474150 - 01/25/14 09:38 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: vikingsc]
    #19474166 - 01/25/14 09:42 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

This is about what your jar lids should look like:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12880657

I high temp silicone the Tyvek on rather than micropore tape it on.

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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: vikingsc]
    #19474169 - 01/25/14 09:43 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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We need pics!



There was zero gas exchange. We don't really need a pic to know that was the issue.



I suppose, but what if it's just contamed. Don't jars without gas exchange at least show a little healthy growth before stalling? What if he finds a way to get that jar some ge and it just turns out to be bacteria anyways.


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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: Huminuh]
    #19474179 - 01/25/14 09:46 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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The jars walls have a very thin layer of a light streaky film of white but its hardish to see without light but they haven't clumped yet.



All the signs of zero gas exchange. That's why I asked about his lids.

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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: vikingsc]
    #19474189 - 01/25/14 09:47 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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The jars walls have a very thin layer of a light streaky film of white but its hardish to see without light but they haven't clumped yet.



All the signs of zero gas exchange. That's why I asked about his lids.



Gotcha and I totally trust your knowledge, it just kinda reminded me of bacteria on agar.


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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: stevo]
    #19476028 - 01/26/14 10:10 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

It isn't contaminated. Does the ziplock bag have closed in the tub? Or partially open?

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Re: HELP!!! Jars of corn not growing right/taking to long? [Re: Huminuh]
    #19476053 - 01/26/14 10:19 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Or just switch out your lids with some lids with filtered gas exchange in a SAB.

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