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    #19467376 - 01/24/14 12:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Candy of The God's Tek

I know for most "just eat them dude..." works and I agree, if I eat hallucinogenic mushrooms I will trip. I also know eating raw mushrooms causes gastric discomfort no matter the psychoactive content. I also know candy is a inconspicuous method of transport and/or consumption. I also like to be creative and share my creativity. That being said if you hold the view that we should skip all this extra mess and just eat the mushrooms, consider your opinion voiced and move on to another thread please.

Ok so let's get started. Although I really love them I really wanted an alternative to mushroom chocolates. I wanted a hard candy something made from sugar that could be formed and flavored. Needless to say any searches returned only theoretical results. Although heat decomposition of actives has not been thoroughly tested I wanted to reframe from applying heat greater than 140°f which left any candy recipe involving heating to a "hard-crack" stage (275-300°f).

Daydreaming about shroom candy one day a memory came to me of learning in science class of saturating solutions will cause precipitates to form under the slightest evaporation of solvent. Rock candy was used to demonstrate this process. Sugar has a very wonderful lattice structure that allows contaminates to be tapped in forming crystals from solution. Food colorings and flavors take advantage of this and leads to colored/flavored sugar crystals. We will take advantage of this occurrence in the sugar crystal matrix to trap and preserve* psychoactive compounds within sugar.

So conventional rock candy if you remember is based on a sugar saturated water solution with a string suspended from the top. The string having been moistened, rolled in sugar, and dried provides the saturated solution with seed crystals to begin the process. Otherwise the precipitating sugar would form on the sides of the glass. Sometimes a weight would be used to keep the string from floating.

The conventional rock candy method does not work for shroom candy for the following reasons.

1. Not all of the precipitated sugar ends up on the string and product is left behind.

2. Eating a whole string/stick of rock candy for one hit is a bit much if your not 10 years old.

3. If precipitates form anywhere but the string/stick it can be very difficult to remove from the bottom of a jar.

4. It can take anywhere from 7-28 days for evaporation to complete.


So even though I knew the conventional rock candy method would not work efficiently I figured there was still something to it. So I reversed course and learned everything I could about the process it takes to make sugar in the first place. And there it was. And after a few successful attempts I believe I have found the candy recipe the mushroom community has been missing. Enjoy! :cheers:



Ingredients:
Extraction solution**
Mushrooms
Sugar
Food coloring/flavor (or use kool-aid)
Ascorbic acid (vitamin C)



Equipment:
Vacuum pump (hand, electric, or venturi)
A evaporation chamber (mason jar)
A condensing chamber (mason jar)
Butchner funnel or other filtering device
Inline air dryer (for electric pump as moisture will damage the pump)
Acrylic sheet 18x12" (optional)
Baking sheet
Wax paper



The mix: (scale up as needed)
1 parts solvent (evaporated to usable volume)
2 parts sugar
Ascorbic acid (500mg/1000ml)
1 kool-aid pack (per every 2 cups sugar used)


The technique:

Step 1. Grind x grams of mushrooms into powder

Step 2. Soak mushroom powder in extraction solvent, add ascorbic acid (500mg/1000ml) for ~4hrs Don't go overboard with the solvent as you will just be creating more work later.



Step 3. Filter mushroom powder out of solvent. Discard powder.



Step 4. Vacuum distill off the solvent until you have about 3-4ml of solvent per 3 grams of mushrooms used.


Note the stove is not on, no heat should be applied to start boiling/evaporation unless ambient temps are below 65°f then warm slightly


Make sure your reservoir is as large or larger than your evaporation chamber otherwise you will have to break vacuum and drain your reservoir, then pull a vacuum again.



Now your going to get some precipitates forming. These are just proteins from the mushrooms and will re-dissolve into solution upon adding sugar (similar to what happens to wine) so don't worry about them.



Step 5. Take your final measurement of your solvent and prepare double the volume of sugar. Mix food coloring or flavoring (or kool aide) this is optional.

This picture is from a different batch, I'm including it here to show optional flavoring/coloring


Step 6. Warm your solution to ~120°f in a warm water bath. This is to make the sugar easier to dissolve.

Step 7. Dissolve sugar into solution. It is fully dissolved when the solution goes clear. Just keep stirring.




Step 8. Pour sugar/shroom mix over a wax covered baking sheet. Now "seed" your mix with a pinch of sugar.



Step 9. Let cool. The slower the cooling the larger the crystals. After it has cooled place a small fan near by to circulate air over the solution.



Step 10. (Optional) place the acrylic sheet with vacuum adapted fitted and place over baking sheet and pull a vacuum (don't forget a reservoir). It helps to have a small piece of pvc pipe placed between the acrylic sheet and bottom of the baking sheet to prevent the pan from collapsing (if using a cheap baking sheet)

Step 11. Remove hardened candy from wax paper. If it fights you it's not done (even if it looks like it is). Then divide into individual hits. (If 30g of powder used break into ten pieces)




Eat and enjoy :thumbup:


*Compared to other dry extract forms in open conditions

**I will be using the word solution throughout this write-up. I have successfully used water, ethanol, and vinegar as the extraction solvent. I personally prefer ethanol as it has a lower boiling point than water, evaporates faster than water, and takes less time to extract. Plus it can be distilled at home for those with no direct access. Anything from 100-190 proof can be used but higher the proof the quicker the process. Remember higher proof alcohol vapors are flammable.


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19467403 - 01/24/14 12:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Damn dude really cool write up.  :thumbup: You got alot of dedication sir.


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19467839 - 01/24/14 02:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you sir! :cheers:


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19468108 - 01/24/14 03:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They look sweet dude, thanks for posting. Great idea :trippinbawelz:

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Bubbles85]
    #19468197 - 01/24/14 03:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Nice work, so how's the nausea


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: sbc1]
    #19468373 - 01/24/14 04:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm very interested in this tek.  I have seen tootsy rolls before and those were great.  Thanks for the writeup.

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19469444 - 01/24/14 08:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Amazing man, any noticeable potency loss at all, even though I would assume no? O here's just a quick fix, even though anyone could put 2 and 2 together and think fan, LOL. "Step 9. Let cool. The slower the cooling the larger the crystals. After it has cooled place a small * near by to circulate air over the solution."

Could you even make this simplier and just let the everclear evaporate down with a fan for a few hours in low light conditions, or would the added oxygen degenerate some of the alkaloids?

Thanks for taking the time and resources for the experimentation.


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Amygdalapse]
    #19469545 - 01/24/14 09:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Amygdalapse said:
Amazing man, any noticeable potency loss at all, even though I would assume no? O here's just a quick fix, even though anyone could put 2 and 2 together and think fan, LOL. "Step 9. Let cool. The slower the cooling the larger the crystals. After it has cooled place a small * near by to circulate air over the solution."

Could you even make this simplier and just let the everclear evaporate down with a fan for a few hours in low light conditions, or would the added oxygen degenerate some of the alkaloids?

Thanks for taking the time and resources for the experimentation.




Damn, thank you for bringing that to my attention! It has been fixed

Technically yes there is some loss of potency occurring anytime psilocin is in solution

Source for that info

But on a subjective level I don't notice any loss, I attribute this to the fact your body isn't getting the actives from mushroom tissue, but from a solution (as it's mostly dissolved by the time it hits your stomach), akin to drinking a mushroom tea I believe

Yes, use whatever you have available to evap your solvent, and as fast as possible without the addition of heat.






Thank you everyone for the positive vibes, I really appreciate the feedback!!! :cheers:


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19469612 - 01/24/14 09:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

NICE


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19469615 - 01/24/14 09:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Damn, thank you for bringing that to my attention! It has been fixed

Technically yes there is some loss of potency occurring anytime psilocin is in solution

Source for that info

But on a subjective level I don't notice any loss, I attribute this to the fact your body isn't getting the actives from mushroom tissue, but from a solution (as it's mostly dissolved by the time it hits your stomach), akin to drinking a mushroom tea I believe

Yes, use whatever you have available to evap your solvent, and as fast as possible without the addition of heat.

Thank you everyone for the positive vibes, I really appreciate the feedback!!! :cheers:




No NO no, Thank you :hairmetal:! Great info in this thread all ready. I just wanted to bring that up (evap) so this tek doesn't scare away people without all of the materials all ready. It can be as simple as sugar, shrooms and everclear/151, not a bad combo at all.
:aweyeah:

Just a couple more questions:

1. Now "seed" your mix with a pinch of sugar. This is just sprinkling some crystals over top of the mixture on the wax paper?

2. What kool-aid flavors come out the best?:grin:


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Amygdalapse]
    #19469674 - 01/24/14 09:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

>Now "seed" your mix with a pinch of sugar. This is just sprinkling some crystals over top of the mixture on the wax paper?

Yes sir!
This one I used a teaspoon full to seed, that much isn't needed though


>What kool-aid flavors come out the best?

I personally like grape and fruit punch. My brother likes cherry

You could also crush the sugar/psilocybin crystals and fill pixy stix if you were so inclined, makes dosing in public areas (like concerts) inconspicuous :thumbup:


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19469692 - 01/24/14 09:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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You could also crush the sugar/psilocybin crystals and fill pixy stix if you were so inclined, makes dosing in public areas (like concerts) inconspicuous :thumbup:



Awesome, sexy pic too. Great idea for the pixy stix as well. I figured to just throw in half and half with a bag of pop rocks (dollar store if you can't find them).
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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19672435 - 03/09/14 04:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

*Love* this- do you have a source/tek for the vacuum distillation apparatus?


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: DetectiveLefty]
    #19673138 - 03/09/14 07:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19673690 - 03/09/14 09:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yup!

Delish.  I'm surprised more people haven't commented here.

Really appreciate you putting this one together.


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: mastercultivator]
    #19674186 - 03/09/14 11:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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*Love* this- do you have a source/tek for the vacuum distillation apparatus?




Looks like he just used a brake bleeding kit to create the vacuum and had a silicone seal on the jar he was evacuating.

You can pick up one of those kits at an auto parts store or amazon for like $35 bucks. :thumbup:

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Yup!

Delish.  I'm surprised more people haven't commented here.

Really appreciate you putting this one together.




I agree, this is fucking awesome and it's got me and my girlfriend excited to try this recipe out. :awesomenod:


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: George Sears]
    #19733630 - 03/22/14 06:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How long do the actives in the candy last?

Edited by Dotty (03/22/14 07:02 PM)

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Dotty] * 1
    #19764320 - 03/29/14 01:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You should copy/paste that here so people without an account can also read it. If you don't sign up, you can't get into peoples' journals.


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #19766358 - 03/29/14 09:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Just tried it, the sugar did not want to dissolve, I did 2 cups solvent and 4 cups of sugar. It is cooling now, will update soon

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Dotty]
    #19766548 - 03/29/14 10:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That's weird. You can usually get a good bit of sugar to dissolve into ethanol.


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A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

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i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.

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