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Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek * 11
    #19467376 - 01/24/14 12:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Candy of The God's Tek

I know for most "just eat them dude..." works and I agree, if I eat hallucinogenic mushrooms I will trip. I also know eating raw mushrooms causes gastric discomfort no matter the psychoactive content. I also know candy is a inconspicuous method of transport and/or consumption. I also like to be creative and share my creativity. That being said if you hold the view that we should skip all this extra mess and just eat the mushrooms, consider your opinion voiced and move on to another thread please.

Ok so let's get started. Although I really love them I really wanted an alternative to mushroom chocolates. I wanted a hard candy something made from sugar that could be formed and flavored. Needless to say any searches returned only theoretical results. Although heat decomposition of actives has not been thoroughly tested I wanted to reframe from applying heat greater than 140°f which left any candy recipe involving heating to a "hard-crack" stage (275-300°f).

Daydreaming about shroom candy one day a memory came to me of learning in science class of saturating solutions will cause precipitates to form under the slightest evaporation of solvent. Rock candy was used to demonstrate this process. Sugar has a very wonderful lattice structure that allows contaminates to be tapped in forming crystals from solution. Food colorings and flavors take advantage of this and leads to colored/flavored sugar crystals. We will take advantage of this occurrence in the sugar crystal matrix to trap and preserve* psychoactive compounds within sugar.

So conventional rock candy if you remember is based on a sugar saturated water solution with a string suspended from the top. The string having been moistened, rolled in sugar, and dried provides the saturated solution with seed crystals to begin the process. Otherwise the precipitating sugar would form on the sides of the glass. Sometimes a weight would be used to keep the string from floating.

The conventional rock candy method does not work for shroom candy for the following reasons.

1. Not all of the precipitated sugar ends up on the string and product is left behind.

2. Eating a whole string/stick of rock candy for one hit is a bit much if your not 10 years old.

3. If precipitates form anywhere but the string/stick it can be very difficult to remove from the bottom of a jar.

4. It can take anywhere from 7-28 days for evaporation to complete.


So even though I knew the conventional rock candy method would not work efficiently I figured there was still something to it. So I reversed course and learned everything I could about the process it takes to make sugar in the first place. And there it was. And after a few successful attempts I believe I have found the candy recipe the mushroom community has been missing. Enjoy! :cheers:



Ingredients:
Extraction solution**
Mushrooms
Sugar
Food coloring/flavor (or use kool-aid)
Ascorbic acid (vitamin C)



Equipment:
Vacuum pump (hand, electric, or venturi)
A evaporation chamber (mason jar)
A condensing chamber (mason jar)
Butchner funnel or other filtering device
Inline air dryer (for electric pump as moisture will damage the pump)
Acrylic sheet 18x12" (optional)
Baking sheet
Wax paper



The mix: (scale up as needed)
1 parts solvent (evaporated to usable volume)
2 parts sugar
Ascorbic acid (500mg/1000ml)
1 kool-aid pack (per every 2 cups sugar used)


The technique:

Step 1. Grind x grams of mushrooms into powder

Step 2. Soak mushroom powder in extraction solvent, add ascorbic acid (500mg/1000ml) for ~4hrs Don't go overboard with the solvent as you will just be creating more work later.



Step 3. Filter mushroom powder out of solvent. Discard powder.



Step 4. Vacuum distill off the solvent until you have about 3-4ml of solvent per 3 grams of mushrooms used.


Note the stove is not on, no heat should be applied to start boiling/evaporation unless ambient temps are below 65°f then warm slightly


Make sure your reservoir is as large or larger than your evaporation chamber otherwise you will have to break vacuum and drain your reservoir, then pull a vacuum again.



Now your going to get some precipitates forming. These are just proteins from the mushrooms and will re-dissolve into solution upon adding sugar (similar to what happens to wine) so don't worry about them.



Step 5. Take your final measurement of your solvent and prepare double the volume of sugar. Mix food coloring or flavoring (or kool aide) this is optional.

This picture is from a different batch, I'm including it here to show optional flavoring/coloring


Step 6. Warm your solution to ~120°f in a warm water bath. This is to make the sugar easier to dissolve.

Step 7. Dissolve sugar into solution. It is fully dissolved when the solution goes clear. Just keep stirring.




Step 8. Pour sugar/shroom mix over a wax covered baking sheet. Now "seed" your mix with a pinch of sugar.



Step 9. Let cool. The slower the cooling the larger the crystals. After it has cooled place a small fan near by to circulate air over the solution.



Step 10. (Optional) place the acrylic sheet with vacuum adapted fitted and place over baking sheet and pull a vacuum (don't forget a reservoir). It helps to have a small piece of pvc pipe placed between the acrylic sheet and bottom of the baking sheet to prevent the pan from collapsing (if using a cheap baking sheet)

Step 11. Remove hardened candy from wax paper. If it fights you it's not done (even if it looks like it is). Then divide into individual hits. (If 30g of powder used break into ten pieces)




Eat and enjoy :thumbup:


*Compared to other dry extract forms in open conditions

**I will be using the word solution throughout this write-up. I have successfully used water, ethanol, and vinegar as the extraction solvent. I personally prefer ethanol as it has a lower boiling point than water, evaporates faster than water, and takes less time to extract. Plus it can be distilled at home for those with no direct access. Anything from 100-190 proof can be used but higher the proof the quicker the process. Remember higher proof alcohol vapors are flammable.


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19467403 - 01/24/14 12:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Damn dude really cool write up.  :thumbup: You got alot of dedication sir.


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19467839 - 01/24/14 02:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you sir! :cheers:


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19468108 - 01/24/14 03:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They look sweet dude, thanks for posting. Great idea :trippinbawelz:

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Bubbles85]
    #19468197 - 01/24/14 03:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Nice work, so how's the nausea


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: sbc1]
    #19468373 - 01/24/14 04:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm very interested in this tek.  I have seen tootsy rolls before and those were great.  Thanks for the writeup.

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19469444 - 01/24/14 08:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Amazing man, any noticeable potency loss at all, even though I would assume no? O here's just a quick fix, even though anyone could put 2 and 2 together and think fan, LOL. "Step 9. Let cool. The slower the cooling the larger the crystals. After it has cooled place a small * near by to circulate air over the solution."

Could you even make this simplier and just let the everclear evaporate down with a fan for a few hours in low light conditions, or would the added oxygen degenerate some of the alkaloids?

Thanks for taking the time and resources for the experimentation.


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Amygdalapse]
    #19469545 - 01/24/14 09:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Amazing man, any noticeable potency loss at all, even though I would assume no? O here's just a quick fix, even though anyone could put 2 and 2 together and think fan, LOL. "Step 9. Let cool. The slower the cooling the larger the crystals. After it has cooled place a small * near by to circulate air over the solution."

Could you even make this simplier and just let the everclear evaporate down with a fan for a few hours in low light conditions, or would the added oxygen degenerate some of the alkaloids?

Thanks for taking the time and resources for the experimentation.




Damn, thank you for bringing that to my attention! It has been fixed

Technically yes there is some loss of potency occurring anytime psilocin is in solution

Source for that info

But on a subjective level I don't notice any loss, I attribute this to the fact your body isn't getting the actives from mushroom tissue, but from a solution (as it's mostly dissolved by the time it hits your stomach), akin to drinking a mushroom tea I believe

Yes, use whatever you have available to evap your solvent, and as fast as possible without the addition of heat.






Thank you everyone for the positive vibes, I really appreciate the feedback!!! :cheers:


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19469612 - 01/24/14 09:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

NICE


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19469615 - 01/24/14 09:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Damn, thank you for bringing that to my attention! It has been fixed

Technically yes there is some loss of potency occurring anytime psilocin is in solution

Source for that info

But on a subjective level I don't notice any loss, I attribute this to the fact your body isn't getting the actives from mushroom tissue, but from a solution (as it's mostly dissolved by the time it hits your stomach), akin to drinking a mushroom tea I believe

Yes, use whatever you have available to evap your solvent, and as fast as possible without the addition of heat.

Thank you everyone for the positive vibes, I really appreciate the feedback!!! :cheers:




No NO no, Thank you :hairmetal:! Great info in this thread all ready. I just wanted to bring that up (evap) so this tek doesn't scare away people without all of the materials all ready. It can be as simple as sugar, shrooms and everclear/151, not a bad combo at all.
:aweyeah:

Just a couple more questions:

1. Now "seed" your mix with a pinch of sugar. This is just sprinkling some crystals over top of the mixture on the wax paper?

2. What kool-aid flavors come out the best?:grin:


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Amygdalapse]
    #19469674 - 01/24/14 09:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

>Now "seed" your mix with a pinch of sugar. This is just sprinkling some crystals over top of the mixture on the wax paper?

Yes sir!
This one I used a teaspoon full to seed, that much isn't needed though


>What kool-aid flavors come out the best?

I personally like grape and fruit punch. My brother likes cherry

You could also crush the sugar/psilocybin crystals and fill pixy stix if you were so inclined, makes dosing in public areas (like concerts) inconspicuous :thumbup:


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19469692 - 01/24/14 09:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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You could also crush the sugar/psilocybin crystals and fill pixy stix if you were so inclined, makes dosing in public areas (like concerts) inconspicuous :thumbup:



Awesome, sexy pic too. Great idea for the pixy stix as well. I figured to just throw in half and half with a bag of pop rocks (dollar store if you can't find them).
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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19672435 - 03/09/14 04:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

*Love* this- do you have a source/tek for the vacuum distillation apparatus?


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: DetectiveLefty]
    #19673138 - 03/09/14 07:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19673690 - 03/09/14 09:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yup!

Delish.  I'm surprised more people haven't commented here.

Really appreciate you putting this one together.


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: mastercultivator]
    #19674186 - 03/09/14 11:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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*Love* this- do you have a source/tek for the vacuum distillation apparatus?




Looks like he just used a brake bleeding kit to create the vacuum and had a silicone seal on the jar he was evacuating.

You can pick up one of those kits at an auto parts store or amazon for like $35 bucks. :thumbup:

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Yup!

Delish.  I'm surprised more people haven't commented here.

Really appreciate you putting this one together.




I agree, this is fucking awesome and it's got me and my girlfriend excited to try this recipe out. :awesomenod:


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: George Sears]
    #19733630 - 03/22/14 06:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How long do the actives in the candy last?

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Dotty] * 1
    #19764320 - 03/29/14 01:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You should copy/paste that here so people without an account can also read it. If you don't sign up, you can't get into peoples' journals.


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #19766358 - 03/29/14 09:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Just tried it, the sugar did not want to dissolve, I did 2 cups solvent and 4 cups of sugar. It is cooling now, will update soon

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Dotty]
    #19766548 - 03/29/14 10:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That's weird. You can usually get a good bit of sugar to dissolve into ethanol.


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #19769016 - 03/30/14 02:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I failed...Heated up the mix to get the sugar to dissolve, I became inpatient an added a bit of water.
Do not do this!
Luckily it was made with aborts and I have more to play around with.

I guess I should have just kept stirring for a few more mins. My solution was 2cups ethl to 4 cups sugar.

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Dotty]
    #19769036 - 03/30/14 02:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Another question how does a trip ride out with the sugar crystals opposed to just drinking the ethl solution?

Ex. When I dose with the liquor extract it hit very fast ~20mins and only last ~3-4 hours as opposed to eating them taking ~1hour to hit and tripping for ~6 hours

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Dotty] * 1
    #19771144 - 03/30/14 10:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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My solution was 2cups ethl to 4 cups sugar.




:lolwut:

That's a huge amount haha. I only used about 100 mL Everclear and 200 sugar haha. Worked fine for me after letting it sit long enough.

It takes a lot longer to recrystallize if you do large amounts anyway. The first time I tried it I only used 1 cup (250mL) Everclear and 2 of sugar and it never even fully solidified.


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: George Sears] * 1
    #19771931 - 03/31/14 05:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yea 4 cups sugar is allot and has the potential to hold the equivalent of 20 ounces of mushrooms. If you have to add water just add more sugar. It should still work tho, well how much water did you add?

If you are having trouble driving off the rest of the solvent off of the crystals then try:
Breaking them up on the wax/parchment paper and air dry
Use a fan
Make sure it's not in a humid environment like a bathroom
Worst comes to worst you can place your wax/parchment paper in your dehydrator
Or use/make a vacuum chamber (this is the fastest option imo)

Good luck :thumbup:


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19773234 - 03/31/14 01:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm gonna be trying this within the week. I've got about 7 grams of mushrooms that I literally just found in a drawer, so I figured why not use those? :lol:

Can you give a little more detail on how you dry under vacuum with a hand pump? That's the only thing I'm not 100% sure about. I've got time to wait if I can't get it to work, but I'd rather get it dry and stored ASAP.

I'm also gonna just use heat for my initial evaporation (the step where you're reducing your solvent to a workable volume, not the final drying). I'll let you know how that works out and if any potency is subjectively lost.


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #19773922 - 03/31/14 04:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Will try a 1cup:2cups solvent to sugar this week and post results

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Dotty] * 1
    #19778104 - 04/01/14 12:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

>Can you give a little more detail on how you dry under vacuum with a hand pump? 

Sure, using the strongest cookie sheet, or for small amounts a bread pan works great. I use electrical tape on the mating surfaces of the pan/sheet and acrylic sheet. Just place your wax/parchment paper in the tray and trim it so it's contained in the pan/sheet. Place your piece of acrylic sheet over the pan/sheet and draw a vacuum. If the baking sheet/pan or acrylic sheet is thin and flimsy your going to have to find a suitable spacer to keep them from crushing, use what works for what your working with. It helps to cool the reservoir to aid condensation, alternatively you can warm the pan slightly by placing on a refrigerator or something equivalent and keeping the reservoir at rt. The more vacuum you apply the faster the process. I'll take pictures next batch I make :thumbup:


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19778363 - 04/01/14 01:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hmm, sounds easy enough.

The main thing I'm wondering about (besides how you make a seal, which you covered) is how you get the adapter in there, and what kind of adapter you use? Do you make a thicker gasket and just sort of tape the adapter in, or just kind of lay the end of the tube in there and have at it using just a layer or 2 of tape?

Sometimes visualizing simple things is harder than it should be, lol.

Also, is there a specific reason it has to be an acrylic sheet, or did you just list what you used because that's what you used? Cause I don't have an acrylic sheet but I have several different-sized baking pans, and I can't really see why they wouldn't work.


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A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

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    #19779056 - 04/01/14 03:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

>how you get the adapter in there, and what kind of adapter you use?

Super easy, I use one of the barbed fittings from the vac pump kit adhered with rtv to a hole drilled through. Similar to the lid of the mason jar.

>Also, is there a specific reason it has to be an acrylic sheet, or did you just list what you used because that's what you used? 

The acrylic sheet acts as a cover to a baking pan/sheet so you can watch the progression of Crystal formation, as opposed to an opaque lid.

Here's a video that gave me the idea, I only modified it for a shallow baking pan/sheet and use a reservoir to collect the condensate



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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19779565 - 04/01/14 05:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Awesome! That could be very useful with my hash oil TEK as well.

You, sir, really need to stick around and keep being you. You never fail to amaze me with some kind of great idea.


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #19779600 - 04/01/14 05:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Also, please copy/paste from your journal to here so the info is more public. I've wanted to show a few people how to make this stuff, but they can't get to your journal without signing in and I don't necessarily wanna let them all know I'm a member here, lol.


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    #19780249 - 04/01/14 07:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No problem :thumbup:


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    #19783684 - 04/02/14 11:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks!!


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    #19790783 - 04/03/14 05:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks man- one more question: what's a reasonable sugar-to-mushroom powder ratio?

I'm thinking something like 1-1/2 tsp sugar per 3g mushroom powder; for 30g mushroom powder that's about 120g sugar- does this seem about right?


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    #19791624 - 04/03/14 08:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I personally like 5ml of sugar to hold the equivalent of 3 g mushroom powder. I start with 150g mushroom powder extracted in 1000ml ethanol that is filtered and then reduced under vaco to 125 ml and saturated with 250ml of sugar or sugar/kool aid mix. :thumbup:


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    #19791823 - 04/03/14 08:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I personally like 5ml of sugar to hold the equivalent of 3 g mushroom powder. I start with 150g mushroom powder extracted in 1000ml ethanol that is filtered and then reduced under vaco to 125 ml and saturated with 250ml of sugar or sugar/kool aid mix. :thumbup:




I was gonna ask about the kool aid mix since I just use flavoring oils.

When you add kool aid mix do you change the amount of sugar?


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    #19793090 - 04/04/14 05:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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I personally like 5ml of sugar to hold the equivalent of 3 g mushroom powder. I start with 150g mushroom powder extracted in 1000ml ethanol that is filtered and then reduced under vaco to 125 ml and saturated with 250ml of sugar or sugar/kool aid mix. :thumbup:





Thanks- that's ballpark; 5ml is about 1 tsp.


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    #19793095 - 04/04/14 05:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:woah:  :slowreaction:

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    #19793169 - 04/04/14 06:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

>When you add kool aid mix do you change the amount of sugar?

Sort of, I mean the over all volume should be the same.

If your using the kind of kool aid that comes in small packages like the kind seen on the left side of the picture, then just add one package to every 250ml of sugar used. If you have the kool aid that comes in a jar or can like the one seen on the right side of the picture, then just pour out 50ml of kool aid and then add sugar until you have your 250ml volume of kool aid/sugar mix :thumbup:



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    #19793192 - 04/04/14 06:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Here's a cool alternative to plain rock candy. I have scaled it down using ice cube trays or muffin tins so each geode is one hit. A more detailed write up of the following is in the works :thumbup:

Make a tin foil mold



Line mold with a thin layer of fondant and pour in your rock candy solution



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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19794921 - 04/04/14 02:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Got my extraction started just now. I'm using 10 grams, and probably about 50 ml of 151 proof Everclear with a 500 mg vitamin C tablet dissolved in it. It's a lot of ascorbic acid, but I figure it can't hurt anything.


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    #19794934 - 04/04/14 02:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That is :awesome: thank you for sharing!!


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    #19796080 - 04/04/14 07:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So I had the same problem as Dotty with the sugar not wanting to go into solution. I stirred and heated for a good long while and it just wouldn't all go in. I went ahead and dumped it on the tray to dry though. I imagine it's still gonna work, but the crystals may be smaller.

I ended up using just over 100 ml of solvent after I strained it all out. Looked like less in the jar, but whatever. I evaporated to right about 50 ml then added 1/3 pack of Kool-Aid and enough sugar to bring it up to 100 ml.


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #19796370 - 04/04/14 08:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, so it's looking like I'm getting something more like Pixie Stix. Not really a problem, but I was hoping for bigger crystals. I've had a fan on it for about an hour and 45 minutes now. It looks pretty dry, but I'll probably leave the fan on all night. I'm not really set up to vacuum dry it right at the moment.

I'll to adjust next time and see if I can get it all into solution, I think that'd make it much prettier.


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    #19797005 - 04/04/14 11:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

New batch was done with 150ml of solvent, 300ml of sugar, and 1/2 packet of koolaid.

Took nearly 24hrs to dry and got a ton more crystals than expected!!

Next time will try to reduce it further to 50ml of solvent

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Dotty]
    #19797018 - 04/04/14 11:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, I noticed that myself. I got a lot of candy for not a whole lot of mushrooms. Making it more concentrated would definitely be a good idea. The good thing though, is I bet this lends itself extremely well to scaling up.

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Took nearly 24hrs to dry and got a ton more crystals than expected!!




How'd you dry it? I've got mine in a baking pan lined with wax paper with a box fan sitting on top of it.


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #19798062 - 04/05/14 05:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yea in my experience I've found to obtain large crystals you need to use water as your solvent, heat slightly to 120°f then cool as slow as possible, once cool pour into your pan and evaporate as slow as possible. Ethanol and speed drying tend to lead to finer/smaller crystals and more of them.

Sometimes I have difficulty forcing the sugar into solution when using ethanol. If it gets to the point where it will not dissolve anymore I'll add water drop wise until it goes into solution. I usually only need a dozen or so drops to dissolve the remaining sugar. :thumbup:


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #19798654 - 04/05/14 10:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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Here's a cool alternative to plain rock candy. I have scaled it down using ice cube trays or muffin tins so each geode is one hit. A more detailed write up of the following is in the works :thumbup:

Make a tin foil mold



Line mold with a thin layer of fondant and pour in your rock candy solution



Once hardened flip candy out of the mold and pour melted chocolate over it



Once cooled trim excess fondant/chocolate and enjoy!






I have to make that.

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #19799101 - 04/05/14 12:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well, this stuff seems mostly dry so far! I pulled up my wax paper this morning and the majority of the crystals just fell off. I had a thin bottom layer that still stuck, so I've got that back under the fan.

It definitely smells mushroomy, so I've got some pretty high hopes. As long as the heat and slightly excessive use of the fan didn't ruin it, I think this is gonna be great.

I'd say the main thing I learned this round is that you can really reduce your final solution a LOT more than you think you can. I ended up with a fairly big bag of candy for just 3 doses.


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #19799337 - 04/05/14 01:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yea I wrestled with that at first. I used two cups of sugar to make two hits the first time, it was way too much sugar, I ended up using it to sweeten up a large glass of green tea, I tripped pretty good but still too much sugar. I'm excited to hear how it turns out for you!


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    #19809183 - 04/07/14 05:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

Dotty said:
Took nearly 24hrs to dry and got a ton more crystals than expected!!




How'd you dry it? I've got mine in a baking pan lined with wax paper with a box fan sitting on top of it.





Exactly the same actually

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Dotty]
    #19813588 - 04/08/14 03:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Loving this thread, keep it up guys il be trying this when I get some more mushrooms,  hopefully it'll be perfected by then


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    #19815427 - 04/08/14 09:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:greenthumb::awehigh:

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    #19816294 - 04/09/14 12:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

awesome. that is all


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: JohnnyTripsAlot]
    #19825932 - 04/10/14 09:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So here is a little info for everyone trying this exp.
If you use:
150ml of solvent
300ml of sugar
and 1/2 pack of kool-aid

This will work, just expect a day to dry.

Now what I want you to take away from this post is
150mlsolvent+300ml=~29grams of candy. A shit ton of candy!

Anyone have any idea how far you can reduce the solvent?
I have heard of 1ml per 1gram of dry material
could you do say 1ml per 2 grams of dry material>?

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Dotty]
    #19826299 - 04/10/14 11:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If you're using 300 ml of sugar, you had best be using a couple oz of mushrooms at least. IDK how far you can evap though.

I'm still waiting on my test dummy to give me some results. I told him to just dissolve 1/3 of what I gave him (10 grams worth) into some water, sort of like how you did it in green tea. Except I used Kool-Aid, so I doubt any flavoring would be needed.

I've been thinking about it, and the Kool-Aid consistency might be an advantage. If you make it right and just store it in a Kool-Aid container, cops would never even question it. Figure out the numbers to make it so you need like a tbsp or 2 for a glass of organic electric Kool-Aid. I've seen THC in hard candies, and with the rising legal/medical markets, cops know to check a lot of foods. I've never heard of powdered food containing THC though.


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #19878377 - 04/21/14 02:53 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Lastest mixture took forever to dry. Had to add more sugar during the process. But that time it is much easier to work with

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Dotty]
    #19878548 - 04/21/14 03:32 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

I kinda got some results back from my guinea pig. He said he definitely felt something and got some very light tracers, but that was about it. But he had been eating acid 2-3 times a week for a couple weeks beforehand, so his results are probably skewed because of tolerance.

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #19881144 - 04/21/14 11:55 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

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I kinda got some results back from my guinea pig. He said he definitely felt something and got some very light tracers, but that was about it. But he had been eating acid 2-3 times a week for a couple weeks beforehand, so his results are probably skewed because of tolerance.

How's the potency on yours, Dotty?





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    #19881401 - 04/22/14 01:31 AM (10 years, 29 days ago)

Im thinking I lost potency somewhere

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Dotty]
    #19881697 - 04/22/14 04:17 AM (10 years, 29 days ago)

my guess would be during your drying process, oxygen degrades the actives so the longer it takes to evap and dry it could be oxidizing..  but thats just a guess on my part because I havent tried this yet. :smirk:


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    #19884958 - 04/22/14 07:59 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

Well def felt something, I ate 7grams dry, but I was on 3mg klonopin, I think that diminished my trip:( doing some more samples tomo so I'll have a better idea

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    #19885003 - 04/22/14 08:09 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

Did you know that kpins effect tripping? Because if you did then you knowingly wasted 7gs


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Dotty]
    #21548933 - 04/14/15 10:12 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Old thread I know, but so so amazing! I am starting this process tomorrow! Going to use about a half oz of some not so freshly dried boomers to start.

Wondering about a couple things:

Extract Filtration: Do I really need a Buchner Funnel? What is the advantage of using one of these vs say a coffee filter?

Vacuum Distillation: I bought what I think is the same brake bleeding kit in the OP. Do I just drill a hole in the top of a regular metal lid and RTV one of the adaptors in there? Is there any danger of this setup exploding from the negative pressure? I've never attempted anything like this so if anyone can give some guidance it would be much appreciated!

Finally, it would be really helpful if anyone who has experience with this tek could give their approximate times for each of the steps as an extra assurance.

Cannot wait to try this!

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Sits]
    #21564610 - 04/18/15 05:16 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Buchner funnel is just the name of the actual lab equipment you could use for this. It obviously wouldn't get as clogged as a coffee filter so that's an obvious benefit, but the OP was just trying to make this as relatively scientific as possible by using names of all the lab equipment and glassware instead of just saying "yeah I used a brake bleed kit and a sketchy Mason jar setup to do this".

To answer your second question:
You're not supposed to use certain shaped containers to do these kinds of things, but you'll be able to get away with the same sketchy Mason jar setup used in this tek. I've done it a couple times myself and still survived, but you'll want to inspect your jars every time you do this because little fractures will start to form if you're not extra careful with these.


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    #21586719 - 04/23/15 04:16 PM (9 years, 28 days ago)

Ok, so I got up to the Vacuum Distillation part. I pulled a -25 PSI vacuum for 2-3 hours and even tried heating a bit but no boiling/evaporation happened at all. I think I used the wrong attachment. I used a cone shaped one with a really small hole, may not have been enough room for the liquid to move through. I am rebooting with the "barbed" straight tube attachment. The silicone is drying now, will update.

Again, if anyone has some rough times for how long vacuum distillation should take it would be a great benchmark!

Edit: I forgot to mention: My solvent is 151 proof Everclear.

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    #21590940 - 04/24/15 03:02 PM (9 years, 27 days ago)

Alright, I was able to get my Vacuum Distillation rig working but I had to use heat. Because of this, the tubing tried to collapse and ultimately made the process take around 6.5 hours. Also, I had TONS of precipitates possibly due to the heat. I ended up with 60mL of solution for my initial 20g of shrooms. (Double the amount of solution I was shooting for but I figure I will just get twice the volume of candy? Correct me if I'm wrong) Anyway, I added 120mL of sugar/koolaid and stirred for about 30 min, I think all the sugar dissolved but I still see precipitates. I decided to just go for it and put it on the wax paper, which is where I am now in the process. Fingers crossed!

P.S. I couldn't resist eating a spoonful of the solution which was freaking delicious!

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Sits]
    #21591718 - 04/24/15 05:50 PM (9 years, 27 days ago)

Sugars are only slightly soluble in EtOH

To get your sugar to dissolve, especially at a 2:1 ratio, youll need H2O
If you are using an EtOH/H2O solution, the EtOH will evap 1st, leaving you with just H2O eventually

the azeotrope of EtOH/H20 is 95.5% EtOH
at 20c you can get 200g sugar dissolved in 100ml H2O

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Dune-grass]
    #21593179 - 04/24/15 11:28 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

Quote:

Dune-grass said:
Sugars are only slightly soluble in EtOH

To get your sugar to dissolve, especially at a 2:1 ratio, youll need H2O
If you are using an EtOH/H2O solution, the EtOH will evap 1st, leaving you with just H2O eventually

the azeotrope of EtOH/H20 is 95.5% EtOH
at 20c you can get 200g sugar dissolved in 100ml H2O




^ this.

This was discussed earlier in the post, maybe in the OP. Will said if you use high-proof ethanol that you'd have to add some water dropwise to get it all in.

Also, I'm pretty sure heat fucked my results. A hand pump isn't really feasible for this, which is why I heated it.

A water aspirator (it's called an allonge or something like that, I can't find the real name right now) or a real hydraulic pump is needed. If your tubing collapses, you need to stop what you're doing, combine everything and start over with better tubing.


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #24119493 - 02/25/17 06:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Great tek! hopefully you don't mind the old bump.

I was curious about the 4 hour soak time listed in step 2. Is this the same when using water as the solvent? Just soak it in cold water for 4 hours?

Tried this recently but made tea with boiling water and then boiled it down to 50 ml. (no vacuum distiller, working on that) The resulting candy was not very effective so it appears that avoiding heat is the way to go :thumbup:

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #24119497 - 02/25/17 06:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

alright...this is awesome.  In 2 months when my fruits are ready for harvest I am going to do this.

btw the finished product looks sexy like psychedelic candy . much praise to you!


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #24120081 - 02/25/17 11:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

tagging this so I can find it later.


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Traveling0ut]
    #24129244 - 03/01/17 04:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Same.

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #25906912 - 03/30/19 10:38 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

:bump2:


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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #25996946 - 05/16/19 09:46 PM (5 years, 4 days ago)

I'm so going to try this!

That being said I wanted to read the scientific journal he was referencing. So I found a copy of it on the interwebs:

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/97a6/5b43b6ada96a38671aa33e9b5e07ee89bb12.pdf

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: FatherLube]
    #26123582 - 08/06/19 03:18 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Hey Will,

How long do these treats normally last? Also, if you make these with unacidified tea that's been boiled to denature the phosphatase in the mushies, would that be better? Cuz I was thinking that low ph solutions dephosphorylize psilocybin to psilocin, and that could cause noticable potency loss. I'm also worried that liquor over 70% abv wouldn't be as effective of a solvent.

I apologize, I'm not certain what I'm asking. I'm really just trying to get a candy recipe with a long shelf life that tastes great for microdosing

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: Severance13]
    #26123632 - 08/06/19 05:01 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

:takingnotes:

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Re: Willsolvem's Candy of The God's Tek [Re: WillSolvem]
    #27513154 - 10/22/21 03:30 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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WillSolvem said:
Here's a cool alternative to plain rock candy. I have scaled it down using ice cube trays or muffin tins so each geode is one hit. A more detailed write up of the following is in the works :thumbup:

Make a tin foil mold



Line mold with a thin layer of fondant and pour in your rock candy solution



Once hardened flip candy out of the mold and pour melted chocolate over it



Once cooled trim excess fondant/chocolate and enjoy!






This has got to be one of the coolest things I have ever seen in my life, and I am now set on making one!

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