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Layering technique
    #19463064 - 01/23/14 03:10 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I just finished a couple of 5 inch layered trays with some nice fluffy textured coir 70%, Cowpoo 30%, alph alpha straw 10%, which was really nice and light. Rough percentages I just use my eye.

But I have meant to ask about layering, is there a knack to it? I basically just keep them all very thin, first substrate then spawn, just enough spawn to cover the previous sub layer, until I reach the top. Last layer a bit thicker substrate.

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Re: Layering technique [Re: greenery1]
    #19463081 - 01/23/14 03:13 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Layering is outdated.

Next time mix the spawn evenly with the substrate for faster colonization.

Mycellium grows outward in a 3D spherical pattern, take full advantage of every inoculation point by mixing evenly.

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Re: Layering technique [Re: greenery1]
    #19463083 - 01/23/14 03:14 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

don't bother with a thick top layer of sub. I used to do this and it takes the top layer forever to colonize. I just mix it up evenly and try not to have to many exposed grains on top.


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Re: Layering technique [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19463097 - 01/23/14 03:16 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Layering technique [Re: L1ss3rd]
    #19463184 - 01/23/14 03:32 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Layering technique [Re: cronicr]
    #19463220 - 01/23/14 03:39 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

i saw this 1.5m long monitor lizard in malaysia, that was just monitoring the shit out of me


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Re: Layering technique [Re: Aero]
    #19463226 - 01/23/14 03:40 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

i had a monitor, fried him though:homerdoh3:


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Re: Layering technique [Re: cronicr]
    #19463423 - 01/23/14 04:33 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for those comments. I would originally have just mixed, but it was actually RR who mentioned in a post that layering was 'superior' (sorry I dont have the link handy). I would have imagined mixing would be better for reasons mentioned, greater inoculation points, but alright will compare that on my next batch of trays (in the next weeks or so). Thanks again!

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Re: Layering technique [Re: cronicr]
    #19463440 - 01/23/14 04:37 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

that sounds so awful!
poor sgt stadanko :frown:

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Re: Layering technique [Re: spacechildo]
    #19463474 - 01/23/14 04:47 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

it was very fucking awfull, had him in his small cage and left with his :huxleyfacepalm:light on


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Re: Layering technique [Re: cronicr]
    #19463548 - 01/23/14 05:00 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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it was very fucking awfull, had him in his small cage and left with his :huxleyfacepalm:light on




You are a bad man. A very bad man!


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Re: Layering technique [Re: cronicr]
    #19463659 - 01/23/14 05:22 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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it was very fucking awfull, had him in his small cage and left with his :huxleyfacepalm:light on




they say it tastes like chicken :heytherebadboy:


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Re: Layering technique [Re: cronicr]
    #19463673 - 01/23/14 05:24 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I remember you wrote this some weeks ago and I felt really bad for the little fella.
I got the same gutted feeling reading about it again today :frown:

Free range lizzards might not work out so well?

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Re: Layering technique [Re: greenery1]
    #19464135 - 01/23/14 06:53 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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I just finished a couple of 5 inch layered trays with some nice fluffy textured coir 70%, Cowpoo 30%, alph alpha straw 10%, which was really nice and light. Rough percentages I just use my eye.

But I have meant to ask about layering, is there a knack to it? I basically just keep them all very thin, first substrate then spawn, just enough spawn to cover the previous sub layer, until I reach the top. Last layer a bit thicker substrate.




That's the way to do it.  Disregard anyone who says layering is outdated.  The mycelium in the grain layer re-knits together first and then takes off into the substrate with a vengeance. For this reason, it's better to have fewer, but thicker grain layers.

I've done mixing and layering thousands of times each.  With spawn bags, one must shake, so by nature it's well mixed.  With trays of manure or other bulk substrates we have the luxury of layering.  Be sure to always cover with a layer of substrate on top so there are no exposed grains, as you did.

To the rest of you, please quit 'jacking the thread.
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Re: Layering technique [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19464188 - 01/23/14 07:04 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry for the bad info Iv just found my subs colonize faster without layering but obviously RR knows way more than I do.


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Re: Layering technique [Re: greenery1]
    #19464581 - 01/23/14 08:18 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I make what I call "horseshit lasagna". I use WBS and pasteurized horse poo/straw, with a little verm and gypsum sprinkled in the substrate, then layer a couple jars of substrate, one or two jars of colonized WBS and repeat the layering, ending with substrate. I've been using 50/50 verm-peat for casing, which I'm not particularly attached to and have been experimenting with different casing methods to see how/if casing really makes a difference. Once I tried mixing it up because everyone kept saying that it was "outdated" to layer, and mixing it was a pain in the ass and maybe a little noticeably slower to colonize. As much fun as being elbow-deep in barnyard waste is, I'll stick with my simple unfashionable horseshit lasagna and be done with it. Mushrooms are simple creatures that just want to be left in peace to finish their life cycle without too much molestation from the humans. I'm not going to take that away from them. :lol:

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That's the way to do it.  Disregard anyone who says layering is outdated.  The mycelium in the grain layer re-knits together first and then takes off into the substrate with a vengeance. For this reason, it's better to have fewer, but thicker grain layers.





Thanks for clearing this up. I might try some thicker grain layers next time. :grin:


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Re: Layering technique [Re: greenery1]
    #19464657 - 01/23/14 08:32 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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I just finished a couple of 5 inch layered trays with some nice fluffy textured coir 70%, Cowpoo 30%, alph alpha straw 10%, which was really nice and light. Rough percentages I just use my eye.




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Re: Layering technique [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #19464686 - 01/23/14 08:36 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

If we're talking about cubes in a monotub then I think you're wrong RR. I've tried layering and I've tried mixing evenly and using a top layer. I've also tried mixing evenly with no top layer. I've settled on mixing evenly with no top layer. It colonizes way faster that way. Faster colonization is always better. I'm not the only one that has came to this conclusion. Most anybody on here that grows cubes in tubs has come to the same conclusion. You've admitted that you've never grown cubes in a monotub so why do you keep contradicting what we say about layering and using a top layer when we do it everyday?

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Re: Layering technique [Re: Stromrider]
    #19464787 - 01/23/14 08:55 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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You've admitted that you've never grown cubes in a monotub so why do you keep contradicting what we say about layering and using a top layer when we do it everyday?




Reading comprehension problem or just butthurt? 

He said he was using trays.  Furthermore if you think mycelium colonizing the bottom of a rubbermaid tub is going to behave differently from mycelium colonizing a tray, you have a lot to learn fella.  I've always said there's little difference, but layering gets the advantage in my opinion.

I've always said to use a top layer of substrate. Exposed grains are a major green mold vector. :shrug:
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Re: Layering technique [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19464851 - 01/23/14 09:07 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Not butthurt just confused. I'm aware I have a lot to learn but I have seen first hand that tubs (or trays) that I layer or use a top layer just don't do as well or ccolonize nearly as fast as one evenly mixed. I'm far from the only one to experience this. I doubt anyone else will agree though since it's like against forum etiquette to disagree with you. Not trying to be an ass. Just stating fact. I agree with most everything you say and I've learned a ton from you but I just have to disagree with you on this based on my personal experience

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Re: Layering technique [Re: Stromrider]
    #19465489 - 01/23/14 11:40 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you very much RR!

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Re: Layering technique [Re: greenery1]
    #19465536 - 01/23/14 11:53 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Layering technique [Re: bootster]
    #19466057 - 01/24/14 04:02 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

This is from 7 months ago. Some say personal preference, some say tubs are enclosed and top grains don't dry because of the humid tub.
I remember this gif of layering vs mixing where every inoc point moves in 360 deg and finishes much faster than layering.
the knitting together and then vengefully taking off was new to me though!

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My question is, why don't people mix the grain all throughout the substrate?




They do.
Actually I think most prefer to mix instead of layer.




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Here's how I spawn to a mono.

Mixing evenly will bring your colonization times down significantly.




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I think layering is done because it speeds colonization times but I don't have a reference off the top of my head. I keep thinking of watching RR fill the poly tube and laundry basket




It does the opposite.
RR layers in the laundry basket so the spawn won't contam during colonization. Same for the "tube" of straw & oyster spawn.
We're using fully sealed totes. so exposed grains aren't a problem.

My Monotub tek




Not quoting this to say anyone is right or wrong, just to add to the confusion. lots of tc's has been telling me to mix evenly for a long time,
and it's confusing when the rabbit says otherwise..

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Re: Layering technique [Re: spacechildo]
    #19466062 - 01/24/14 04:09 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

The rabbit is confusing, that I agree.

My substrates fully colonize and are ready to fruit in 7-8 days when mixed evenly with no top layer using a 1-2 ratio.

Show me a layered substrate that does the same.

I can link to literally hundreds of threads where the top layer has taken 2+ weeks to colonize.

Furthermore the whole thing about exposed grains on top of a mixed sub contamming has been debunked by many.

I personally do not see a rise in contams just because I have some grains exposed on top with no top layer.

:shrug: Take it for what it is.....

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Re: Layering technique [Re: cronicr]
    #19466136 - 01/24/14 05:15 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Lol just trying to learn some new things... And since there is like no way to "just follow" the thread.
I just posted that so this one would appear on " my threads " :shrug:

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Re: Layering technique [Re: L1ss3rd]
    #19466216 - 01/24/14 06:11 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Hacker I was trying to get RR to understand that he keeps telling people on here to layer the spawn and substrate and use a top layer of substrate when the concensus here among pretty much everyone is that mixing evenly with no top layer provides better results. Many of us grow cubes in a bulk substrate on a weekly basis and have tried it both ways and have found that it just works much better to mix it evenly. My contam rate was much higher when I was using a top layer. Probably because the tubs took way longer to colonize. I just hate to see him keep telling people that when I've seen how many issues it's caused people. Myself included.

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Re: Layering technique [Re: Stromrider]
    #19466233 - 01/24/14 06:18 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Layering technique [Re: PussyFart]
    #19466259 - 01/24/14 06:32 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

the top layer thing shouldn't be a problem if the top layer is really thin.
as the mycel spreads out in all angles it should not take any longer to colonize upwards 1/4 or so,
as it probably has to colonize 1/4 inch in some direction other spots in the tub as well.

however, if the top layer is a massive inch thick it causes all sorts of trouble..

that's just how I see it, but I might be impartial because I'm "looking for it"

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Re: Layering technique [Re: spacechildo]
    #19466285 - 01/24/14 06:40 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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    #19466308 - 01/24/14 06:47 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Either way, i get shrooms.
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Re: Layering technique [Re: Stromrider]
    #19466333 - 01/24/14 06:59 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

You guys seriously need to get laid or something.

I've always said the difference between layering and mixing is very little and I do both.  Then, you come back and say I keep telling people. . .blah, blah, . . .

As for you guys claiming loads and loads of cubes every week, what are you going to do with all that product?  I know of very few people who trip more than once or twice a year, especially on cubes, the second least desirable Psilocybe.  The only advantage cubensis has over the other, much more desirable species is it's so toilet-flush simple to grow, anyone can do it. 

It makes sense for those claiming all this knowledge and success to quit pissing and moaning about whether a tricycle or bike with training wheels is easier for a beginner to ride.  Simply take the training wheels off and learn to grow a more difficult species so you'll have something to actually brag about.  :shrug:
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    #19466362 - 01/24/14 07:09 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Layering technique [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19467061 - 01/24/14 11:11 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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You guys seriously need to get laid or something.

I've always said the difference between layering and mixing is very little and I do both.  Then, you come back and say I keep telling people. . .blah, blah, . . .

As for you guys claiming loads and loads of cubes every week, what are you going to do with all that product?  I know of very few people who trip more than once or twice a year, especially on cubes, the second least desirable Psilocybe.  The only advantage cubensis has over the other, much more desirable species is it's so toilet-flush simple to grow, anyone can do it. 

It makes sense for those claiming all this knowledge and success to quit pissing and moaning about whether a tricycle or bike with training wheels is easier for a beginner to ride.  Simply take the training wheels off and learn to grow a more difficult species so you'll have something to actually brag about.  :shrug:
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Not to threadjack further, but would you mind giving your 'top 5 Psilocybe species' to attempt after cubes?

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Re: Layering technique [Re: gornyhuy]
    #19467136 - 01/24/14 11:33 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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You guys seriously need to get laid or something.

I've always said the difference between layering and mixing is very little and I do both.  Then, you come back and say I keep telling people. . .blah, blah, . . .

As for you guys claiming loads and loads of cubes every week, what are you going to do with all that product?  I know of very few people who trip more than once or twice a year, especially on cubes, the second least desirable Psilocybe.  The only advantage cubensis has over the other, much more desirable species is it's so toilet-flush simple to grow, anyone can do it. 

It makes sense for those claiming all this knowledge and success to quit pissing and moaning about whether a tricycle or bike with training wheels is easier for a beginner to ride.  Simply take the training wheels off and learn to grow a more difficult species so you'll have something to actually brag about.  :shrug:
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So sorry I've offended you. I knew it was a bad idea to disagree with anything you said on here but I did it anyway. I'll try very hard to not make that mistake again.

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Re: Layering technique [Re: Stromrider]
    #19467218 - 01/24/14 11:51 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

:hug:

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Re: Layering technique [Re: KnownPown]
    #19467270 - 01/24/14 11:59 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I love the witty remarks they make against eachother. Lmao.:grin:

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Re: Layering technique [Re: Dr.Dank]
    #19467329 - 01/24/14 12:12 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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I love the witty remarks they make against eachother. Lmao.:grin:



Pretty entertaining huh?
"O o oh RR disagrees with me! My butt hurts!"

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Re: Layering technique [Re: Fungal growth]
    #19467352 - 01/24/14 12:18 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Actually my butt does hurt. I slipped on some chemicals at work last week and cracked my tail bone! :lmafo:

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Re: Layering technique [Re: Stromrider]
    #19467362 - 01/24/14 12:20 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Actually my butt does hurt. I slipped on some chemicals at work last week and cracked my tail bone! :lmafo:



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Re: Layering technique [Re: gornyhuy]
    #19467366 - 01/24/14 12:21 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
You guys seriously need to get laid or something.

I've always said the difference between layering and mixing is very little and I do both.  Then, you come back and say I keep telling people. . .blah, blah, . . .

As for you guys claiming loads and loads of cubes every week, what are you going to do with all that product?  I know of very few people who trip more than once or twice a year, especially on cubes, the second least desirable Psilocybe.  The only advantage cubensis has over the other, much more desirable species is it's so toilet-flush simple to grow, anyone can do it. 

It makes sense for those claiming all this knowledge and success to quit pissing and moaning about whether a tricycle or bike with training wheels is easier for a beginner to ride.  Simply take the training wheels off and learn to grow a more difficult species so you'll have something to actually brag about.  :shrug:
RR




Not to threadjack further, but would you mind giving your 'top 5 Psilocybe species' to attempt after cubes?

Thanks!




I second this.

Also, what's the least desirable Psilocybe? Or is it Panaeolus?


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Re: Layering technique [Re: Fungal growth]
    #19467378 - 01/24/14 12:24 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Lol. I dont really "agree" with either. To each thier own.

Its just funny.

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Re: Layering technique [Re: Stromrider]
    #19467501 - 01/24/14 12:54 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I trip at least 6 times a year, sometimes once a month..usually on libs.  Fuck, since Xmas i've got 4 good trips in already.  I used to run out because my "spots" were being overpicked...till I found this one gem.
Now, I grow'em (cubes) cuz i like to, and it's convenient to have enough to trip in the summer months.

What species are worth bragging about?


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Re: Layering technique [Re: 1down5up]
    #19467571 - 01/24/14 01:10 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Nothing is worth "Bragging" about.

Just do what you do and enjoy it yourself!

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Re: Layering technique [Re: Dr.Dank]
    #19467596 - 01/24/14 01:15 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I like bragging about all mine, even my little BRF cakes...but i'm fucked, so don't listen to anything i say.


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Re: Layering technique [Re: 1down5up]
    #19467657 - 01/24/14 01:25 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Whats the point of bragging? Its a bit conceited.

As for RR's remark. All fungi is beautiful and "in my personal opinion" besides potency,  why would you state that the difficulty of one makes it more worthy to "brag about"? I understand that one is more potent than the other or more difficult to grow, but how does that justify bragging?

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Re: Layering technique [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19467752 - 01/24/14 01:43 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Cubensis...is so toilet-flush simple to grow, anyone can do it. 

RR



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Re: Layering technique [Re: PirateSwazey]
    #19467767 - 01/24/14 01:46 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

:tongue::thumbdown:

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Re: Layering technique [Re: Dr.Dank]
    #19468369 - 01/24/14 04:19 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

When i say bragging, i mean showing pics of them.  Like a parent would proudly show pictures of their kid.  I don't go around saying "fuck yeah, looka me!"....i just really like to grow them, and show them.  It wasn't meant to be conveyed as conceit.


...Fuck yeah!!!! Looka me!!! :bearbreakdance:

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Re: Layering technique [Re: 1down5up]
    #19468499 - 01/24/14 04:47 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I feel ya completely. I wasnt trying to make you out as an ass by any means
I just had to clarify:thumbup:

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Re: Layering technique [Re: Dr.Dank]
    #19468588 - 01/24/14 05:08 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

no worries brother:thumbup:  It's all good


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Re: Layering technique [Re: 1down5up]
    #19469563 - 01/24/14 09:12 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

while layering you abuse your spawn less, then by mixing it up and banging it around in your substrate? Could that be a big factor, on better knitting and more successful grows?

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Re: Layering technique [Re: GimpCollector]
    #19469698 - 01/24/14 09:48 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Sub is 70% + 30% + 10%? Hmmmmmmm

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Re: Layering technique [Re: vikingsc]
    #19469712 - 01/24/14 09:52 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

His sub gives 110%.

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Re: Layering technique [Re: Fungal growth]
    #19469731 - 01/24/14 09:58 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Hahaha

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Re: Layering technique [Re: Fungal growth]
    #19469737 - 01/24/14 10:01 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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His sub gives 110%.




I picture RR standing at attention over his substrate commanding 110%


Sorry for TARDJACKING RR, couldn't resist. :wink:

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Re: Layering technique [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19470154 - 01/25/14 12:13 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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As for you guys claiming loads and loads of cubes every week, what are you going to do with all that product? 
RR



Hmm, I wonder...

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Re: Layering technique [Re: Kazak]
    #19470284 - 01/25/14 01:05 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Has anyone learned anything from this thread? I sure have. :rolleyes:

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Re: Layering technique [Re: Kazak]
    #19470488 - 01/25/14 02:28 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Quote:

RogerRabbit said:

As for you guys claiming loads and loads of cubes every week, what are you going to do with all that product? 
RR



Hmm, I wonder...



I give them away to EVERYONE, I need karma points.

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Re: Layering technique [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19471455 - 01/25/14 10:51 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Fungal growth said:
Either way, i get shrooms.
So its wtf ever.




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You guys seriously need to get laid or something.

I've always said the difference between layering and mixing is very little and I do both.  Then, you come back and say I keep telling people. . .blah, blah, . . .

As for you guys claiming loads and loads of cubes every week, what are you going to do with all that product?  I know of very few people who trip more than once or twice a year, especially on cubes, the second least desirable Psilocybe.  The only advantage cubensis has over the other, much more desirable species is it's so toilet-flush simple to grow, anyone can do it. 

It makes sense for those claiming all this knowledge and success to quit pissing and moaning about whether a tricycle or bike with training wheels is easier for a beginner to ride.  Simply take the training wheels off and learn to grow a more difficult species so you'll have something to actually brag about.  :shrug:
RR




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Re: Layering technique [Re: bootster]
    #19477308 - 01/26/14 03:29 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Has anyone learned anything from this thread? I sure have. :rolleyes:




Yeah, i've learned to  spawn two similar jars to two different tubs and try both...over and over and over again :grin:


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    #19477375 - 01/26/14 03:39 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Has anyone learned anything from this thread? I sure have. :rolleyes:




Yeah, i've learned to  spawn two similar jars to two different tubs and try both...over and over and over again :grin:



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Re: Layering technique [Re: PussyFart]
    #19478761 - 01/26/14 08:25 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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The rabbit is confusing, that I agree.

My substrates fully colonize and are ready to fruit in 7-8 days when mixed evenly with no top layer using a 1-2 ratio.

Show me a layered substrate that does the same.

I can link to literally hundreds of threads where the top layer has taken 2+ weeks to colonize.

Furthermore the whole thing about exposed grains on top of a mixed sub contamming has been debunked by many.

I personally do not see a rise in contams just because I have some grains exposed on top with no top layer.

:shrug: Take it for what it is.....



Probably because it looks different when it's fully colonized. The only difference I've seen is you can see more substrate through vertically growing mycelium than through the horizontally growing mycelium when grains are on top.


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Re: Layering technique [Re: Kizzle]
    #19478796 - 01/26/14 08:35 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I like mixing works well for me. :shrug:


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