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FrankHorrigan
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
#19460462 - 01/22/14 11:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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mycopanda said: Actually Frank if you get a tray the size of a mono or even make a long tray of your own it will colonize and fruit just fine... ( I do it all the time) I have made my point and my logic makes 100% sense...
What sounds good on paper does not always apply in practice, my friend. Like communism 
You do a comparison (I've done a few), take an isolate and grow it out on grains. Fruit a substrate of equal size in a properly dialed-in mono and in a mini-GH. I bet you'll be surprised as to the result.
The argument that a greenhouse will always outperform a set of monos taking the same amount of space and sub, that is not as clear as you are trying to cut it.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mushmagic]
#19460469 - 01/22/14 11:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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mycopanda said: You aren't looking at the big picture. 400 mono tubs? Really? That would be way more work then the fruit is worth. You know if you just bought those big tubs that are as long as a mono tub but not as tall you cold put it on industrial shelf's and produce the same amount that you are out of those mono's... Those mono's Are meant to keep you rh and fae tuned so you don't have to do much. But in doing so they take up a lot of room in height that isn't necessary, when you could be using that room for another shelf with more trays... Your yielding so much out of mono's because You have more sq ft of bulk, and you use more substrate. Add that to a tray adequate size on a shelf with plenty of room to move around, shift and harvest..whats their to debate? Its kinda obvious why a GH is used in industrial grows other then the intolerance of Co2... Making the most of your space! with 400 mono's you would not be using your space wisely and would be doing more work then it is worth. Especially if you use the big trays I described, then you yield the same amount as mono's w.o all that upper height taking up more tray space. And with 400 mono's in a room you would have a issue with to much heat, lack of fae,rh , and would have to make a GH like environment anyways just not as controlled... Not worth it
I love my dubtub/mini monos. I bought plastic shelves that you piece together with four levels each and I have room for three tubs on each level. That's twelve minis I can fit on each whole shelf.

   
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
#19460473 - 01/23/14 12:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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mushmagic said: I love my dubtub/mini monos. I bought plastic shelves that you piece together with four levels each and I have room for three tubs on each level. That's twelve minis I can fit on each whole shelf.
He puts monos on a shelf...that's not a GH and trays, those are monos or dubtubs on a shelf
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FrankHorrigan
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PS. Stacking monos: 2 dry lbs per 4-tub stack on average for the first flush. 66qt, no more than a brick of coir, 2 qts verm, and 5-6 qts of grain per tub. Set and forget.
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mushmagic
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Just stating my preferred way to save on space a bit.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mushmagic]
#19460496 - 01/23/14 12:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, I agree with you. I had a bunch of mini monos before, I ran them on shelves as well 
Nowadays I just stack the tubs, "normal" size or miniature. That saves more space than using shelves even.
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mycopanda
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Someone apparently cant dial in a GH... W.e agree to disagree. the person who made this post has already chose to do a GH... So us and are petty debate isn't needed anymore.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
#19460508 - 01/23/14 12:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Who can't dial in a GH?
I've grown five different species in mine, multiple times. I posted a couple grow logs as well.
How about you?
This debate continues because while you are preaching theory, I've done quite a bit of work to see what works best. And I continue to press because I think you are talking a bit more shit than your experience allows for.
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mycopanda
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mushmagic said: I love my dubtub/mini monos. I bought plastic shelves that you piece together with four levels each and I have room for three tubs on each level. That's twelve minis I can fit on each whole shelf.
He puts monos on a shelf...that's not a GH and trays, those are monos or dubtubs on a shelf 
Why are you laughing at him? your rude man.. especially for a trusted cultivator...
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FrankHorrigan
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FrankHorrigan said: No, I agree with you. I had a bunch of mini monos before, I ran them on shelves as well 
Nowadays I just stack the tubs, "normal" size or miniature. That saves more space than using shelves even.
Word. Yea I don't even have the time to do that much grain right now. I've grown to love these minis though anyway.
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Just because someone doesn't boast their grow all over the internet doesn't mean it isn't happening... my lack of posting my grow's doesn't mean im not growing.. Think your letting that trusted cultivator tag get to your head... This was a friendly debate your just fucking rude. And FYI When I said someone can't dial a GH I ment the person who made this post! I was informing everyone because he told me via private message.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mushmagic]
#19460538 - 01/23/14 12:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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mushmagic said: Word. Yea I don't even have the time to do that much grain right now. I've grown to love these minis though anyway.
Whatever works for you is what you should stick with 
I'm glad you and I are on the same page.
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
#19460557 - 01/23/14 12:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sometimes it's best to dock the ego guise...

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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: mycopanda]
#19460559 - 01/23/14 12:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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im gonna do both by the way i have monos i can just sit and forget about wile i play witht the GH im just wanting to stick to the green house for more fun and i can save space i belive i could get better yeilds out of it from what i have read and seen PLUSS IT LOOKS WAY COOLER
mycropanda thanks for all the help im sure theres is alot to learn from u ill keep u posted on how things again thanks for all the help
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: xxbigmilkxx]
#19460562 - 01/23/14 12:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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xxbigmilkxx said: im gonna do both by the way
And I'll bet I know which you end up liking better right off 
Do it up! Let us know!
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: xxbigmilkxx]
#19460577 - 01/23/14 12:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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xxbigmilkxx said: im gonna do both by the way i have monos i can just sit and forget about wile i play witht the GH im just wanting to stick to the green house for more fun and i can save space i belive i could get better yeilds out of it from what i have read and seen PLUSS IT LOOKS WAY COOLER
mycropanda thanks for all the help im sure theres is alot to learn from u ill keep u posted on how things again thanks for all the help
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im not gonna lie i like green house better already but that dsont mean i cant do both i know the green house will take some time to get it dialed in right but fuck it thats what im in this hobbie for to have fun and thats what im doing with both
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: xxbigmilkxx]
#19460590 - 01/23/14 12:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I love my GH too 
Have you looked at my write ups, specifically dialing in your monotubs?
These will help with the mono grows. And my mini-GH write up might help with your GH
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Re: mono tubs vs green houses [Re: xxbigmilkxx]
#19460646 - 01/23/14 01:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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xxbigmilkxx said: im not gonna lie i like green house better already but that dsont mean i cant do both i know the green house will take some time to get it dialed in right but fuck it thats what im in this hobbie for to have fun and thats what im doing with both
Glad you Like it! Im impressed by the size of GH you choose! Nice and big!! Just how I like them! Hope all the advice I gave you on getting it all dialed in makes it super easy for you! It should! love the pics you showed me btw lots of room to move around in their I like it!!
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