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Re: Favorite fish to eat. [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #19456629 - 01/22/14 09:04 AM (10 years, 8 days ago)

  Who's the violent redneck here ?  It's just like you to think you can fix things with your fists if you get your buttons pushed. It's suspicious you say redneck behavior was your problem when your behavior is classic redneck.  Just remember who started with the accusations here.  Didn't see me threatening physical violence when you accused me of bullshit nonsense. Because I'm not red neck in any fashion.  And if you're going to threaten people PM is a better place for it.



and btw, you do admit then you tried to send (sell for your profit)  our obsidian to china just like I stated.  Yet I'll bet you're against free ranging cattle and destroying and ripping up Eastern Oregon for the benefit of a few. Which those who love that land want only to rome it without every meadow being destroyed and mining rips and tears everywhere.  There is so little of recreational value left to the average hiker in Eastern Oregon. Why do people want dig up what little is left to us?  Beats me.



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Re: Favorite fish to eat. [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #19456660 - 01/22/14 09:18 AM (10 years, 8 days ago)

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i can't believe nobody said searun ctthroat trout. it's a pink meat like a pacific salmon but delicate like a rainbow. it's absolute candy fish, and fish spines look like a fern, making them edible by a vegetarian.


Yea but they are kinda rare like Great lakes coaster brookies about the only chance to catch a 5 + lb brookie in the eastern half of the US. BTW do you get Dolly Varden where you live?




I've caught tons of sea run cutts from the Smith River in Calif.  I never thought they were anything special.  In fact trout in general don't make it onto my top five although the majority of fish I've caught in my life have been trout. I'd take lake trout over a cutt or a steelhead anyday.

  However fishing for those cutts was some of the most fun I've ever had fishing anywhere. They live in some really spectacular places. The wilderness just above the Redwoods in California is amazingly beautiful.

  I always wanted to fly fish for them in the estuaries but never have gotten the chance. :sad:


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Re: Favorite fish to eat. [Re: Icelander]
    #19459112 - 01/22/14 06:34 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

if you say you're getting sick of my perceived sanctimonious bullshit, then fucking stop reading my posts or put me on ignore rather than insult me.


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Re: Favorite fish to eat. [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #19459122 - 01/22/14 06:35 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

Fucking kids these days...


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Re: Favorite fish to eat. [Re: Icelander]
    #19459161 - 01/22/14 06:42 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

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  Who's the violent redneck here ?  It's just like you to think you can fix things with your fists if you get your buttons pushed. It's suspicious you say redneck behavior was your problem when your behavior is classic redneck.  Just remember who started with the accusations here.  Didn't see me threatening physical violence when you accused me of bullshit nonsense. Because I'm not red neck in any fashion.  And if you're going to threaten people PM is a better place for it.



and btw, you do admit then you tried to send (sell for your profit)  our obsidian to china just like I stated.  Yet I'll bet you're against free ranging cattle and destroying and ripping up Eastern Oregon for the benefit of a few. Which those who love that land want only to rome it without every meadow being destroyed and mining rips and tears everywhere.  There is so little of recreational value left to the average hiker in Eastern Oregon. Why do people want dig up what little is left to us?  Beats me.





you clearly don't know what you're talking about. we have 4 whole acres that all of us commercial miners are allowed to dig obsidian from. there are countless acres all over Oregon and California open to rockhounds only. these places have been dug to hell and some are completely played out. the obsidian mines were full of obsidian until everyone started copying my business strategy. now it isn't sustainable and I made sure the modoc and Klamath people knew about it. every single other miner hates me for that, but they are all the ones who stepped on my contracts and rights to mine what was traditionally my pit.
btw, i'm not against free range cattle in the modoc nat forest where I mine. the babies feed the mountain lions and keep them from stalking me. what I am opposed to is the use of confined animal feeding operations to fatten up the free range cattle before slaughter. large orders rather than quality. I think we could all do just fine without mcdonalds beef.


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Re: Favorite fish to eat. [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #19459165 - 01/22/14 06:43 PM (10 years, 7 days ago)

Fish... Right?


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Re: Favorite fish to eat. [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #19459401 - 01/22/14 07:32 PM (10 years, 7 days ago)

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passifloracaerulea said:
if you say you're getting sick of my perceived sanctimonious bullshit, then fucking stop reading my posts or put me on ignore rather than insult me.




Again you started with the insults. (ok for you to do only I guess:tongue:)  I only responded to the nonsense statements of responsibility you made.  So maybe you should just quit responding to me.  Or maybe just not talk about things you don't understand.


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Re: Favorite fish to eat. [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #19459417 - 01/22/14 07:37 PM (10 years, 7 days ago)

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Icelander said:
  Who's the violent redneck here ?  It's just like you to think you can fix things with your fists if you get your buttons pushed. It's suspicious you say redneck behavior was your problem when your behavior is classic redneck.  Just remember who started with the accusations here.  Didn't see me threatening physical violence when you accused me of bullshit nonsense. Because I'm not red neck in any fashion.  And if you're going to threaten people PM is a better place for it.



and btw, you do admit then you tried to send (sell for your profit)  our obsidian to china just like I stated.  Yet I'll bet you're against free ranging cattle and destroying and ripping up Eastern Oregon for the benefit of a few. Which those who love that land want only to rome it without every meadow being destroyed and mining rips and tears everywhere.  There is so little of recreational value left to the average hiker in Eastern Oregon. Why do people want dig up what little is left to us?  Beats me.





you clearly don't know what you're talking about. we have 4 whole acres that all of us commercial miners are allowed to dig obsidian from. there are countless acres all over Oregon and California open to rockhounds only. these places have been dug to hell and some are completely played out. the obsidian mines were full of obsidian until everyone started copying my business strategy. now it isn't sustainable and I made sure the modoc and Klamath people knew about it. every single other miner hates me for that, but they are all the ones who stepped on my contracts and rights to mine what was traditionally my pit.
btw, i'm not against free range cattle in the modoc nat forest where I mine. the babies feed the mountain lions and keep them from stalking me. what I am opposed to is the use of confined animal feeding operations to fatten up the free range cattle before slaughter. large orders rather than quality. I think we could all do just fine without mcdonalds beef.





Just  because it's legal to use public lands for making money doesn't mean one has to do it.  What you do is no different than what ranchers and miners are doing all over the west. If there is ever bigger money to be made on obsidian then things will turn out the same for the environment.

How about lets leave what's left of public lands to those who respect it and want to recreate in it rather than exploit the little that is left.  Doesn't matter if it's 4 acres or 400 at this  point.  The west is pretty trashed.


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Re: Favorite fish to eat. [Re: shLong]
    #19459429 - 01/22/14 07:41 PM (10 years, 7 days ago)

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Fish... Right?





Yeah fish, if you can find them out here that aren't mercury polluted.  I have a lake just a few miles from my house full of nice fish that the fishing regulations say you should eat no more of than 1/2 lb.  in six months or some nonsense and women of childbearing age should eat 0.


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Re: Favorite fish to eat. [Re: Icelander]
    #19459441 - 01/22/14 07:44 PM (10 years, 7 days ago)

Same here..


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Re: Favorite fish to eat. [Re: shLong]
    #19459469 - 01/22/14 07:53 PM (10 years, 7 days ago)

Man it's fucking heartbreaking to me.  I grew up 50 some years ago when things were so much different.  It all went to hell and the little that's left is under constant threat.  I really feel for the young people whose hearts desire is to experience some clean wild nature.  It's not so easy now. I'm so glad I did as much as I did.

But hey it can still be done if you work hard for it.  :thumbup:


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Re: Favorite fish to eat. [Re: Icelander]
    #19459500 - 01/22/14 08:01 PM (10 years, 7 days ago)

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Icelander said:
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r00tuuu123 said:
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passifloracaerulea said:
i can't believe nobody said searun ctthroat trout. it's a pink meat like a pacific salmon but delicate like a rainbow. it's absolute candy fish, and fish spines look like a fern, making them edible by a vegetarian.


Yea but they are kinda rare like Great lakes coaster brookies about the only chance to catch a 5 + lb brookie in the eastern half of the US. BTW do you get Dolly Varden where you live?




I've caught tons of sea run cutts from the Smith River in Calif.  I never thought they were anything special.  In fact trout in general don't make it onto my top five although the majority of fish I've caught in my life have been trout. I'd take lake trout over a cutt or a steelhead anyday.

  However fishing for those cutts was some of the most fun I've ever had fishing anywhere. They live in some really spectacular places. The wilderness just above the Redwoods in California is amazingly beautiful.

  I always wanted to fly fish for them in the estuaries but never have gotten the chance. :sad:



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r00tuuu123 said:
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passifloracaerulea said:
i can't believe nobody said searun ctthroat trout. it's a pink meat like a pacific salmon but delicate like a rainbow. it's absolute candy fish, and fish spines look like a fern, making them edible by a vegetarian.


Yea but they are kinda rare like Great lakes coaster brookies about the only chance to catch a 5 + lb brookie in the eastern half of the US. BTW do you get Dolly Varden where you live?




I've caught tons of sea run cutts from the Smith River in Calif.  I never thought they were anything special.  In fact trout in general don't make it onto my top five although the majority of fish I've caught in my life have been trout. I'd take lake trout over a cutt or a steelhead anyday.

  However fishing for those cutts was some of the most fun I've ever had fishing anywhere. They live in some really spectacular places. The wilderness just above the Redwoods in California is amazingly beautiful.

  I always wanted to fly fish for them in the estuaries but never have gotten the chance. :sad:


I want to head out to Wisconsin to fish for coasters. But we also get a summer run of brownies that are hit or miss along lake Erie shore in Pa only at the mouths of a few of the cooler  spring fed shaded creeks they run anywhere from mid June to mid August when the lake temps are 72 to sometimes 80 They are naturally reproducing fish of usually 3 to 5 lbs football shaped and beautiful and for the size they put up one hell of a fight. I've only landed 3 in my life


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Re: Favorite fish to eat. [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #19459530 - 01/22/14 08:07 PM (10 years, 7 days ago)


Coasters?
Lingo differential... What is that? Lake Trout?
If so, this is my one and only


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Re: Favorite fish to eat. [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #19459593 - 01/22/14 08:24 PM (10 years, 7 days ago)

I've always wanted to fish the big coastal browns along lake Michigan but was out west by the time that really kicked in.  An amazing fishery to be sure.


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Re: Favorite fish to eat. [Re: shLong]
    #19459600 - 01/22/14 08:26 PM (10 years, 7 days ago)

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Coasters?
Lingo differential... What is that? Lake Trout?
If so, this is my one and only






Very nice fish.  We have them in some of the lakes in Central Oregon. I've caught a handful while casting for browns. My biggest was 11 1/2 lb and 32 inches.  That's not huge at all as the minimum keeper size is 30 inches.


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Re: Favorite fish to eat. [Re: Icelander]
    #19459616 - 01/22/14 08:29 PM (10 years, 7 days ago)

30 inch keepers?
Fuck... They're managed then I guess.. Wow


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Re: Favorite fish to eat. [Re: shLong]
    #19459628 - 01/22/14 08:32 PM (10 years, 7 days ago)

Nevermind..
I just realized she was 32"...
(im not much of a Trout fisherman)


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Re: Favorite fish to eat. [Re: shLong]
    #19459646 - 01/22/14 08:35 PM (10 years, 7 days ago)

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Coasters?
Lingo differential... What is that? Lake Trout?
If so, this is my one and only




No coasters are lake run brookies.


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Re: Favorite fish to eat. [Re: Icelander]
    #19459664 - 01/22/14 08:39 PM (10 years, 7 days ago)

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I've always wanted to fish the big coastal browns along lake Michigan but was out west by the time that really kicked in.  An amazing fishery to be sure.


Yeah we don't get the monsters here in PA but the streams in NY (Lake Ontario) are choked with em before the Steelhead run.


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Re: Favorite fish to eat. [Re: shLong]
    #19459984 - 01/22/14 09:52 PM (10 years, 7 days ago)

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30 inch keepers?
Fuck... They're managed then I guess.. Wow




Yeah and usually you have to go very deep for them but I can catch a few in very shallow water right after ice out casting from shore or with a nightcrawler floated with a huge gob of powerbait.  With the bait 4 to 6 lb line is in order due to the crystal clear water.  You may wait 2+ hours for a bite but then you have a long fight on your hands and you won't know what it is at first often.  It could be a brown rainbow or laker or kokanee.  I've taken rainbows over 7 lbs there and browns a few lbs bigger and the kokes run over 20 inches sometimes. It's fun but cold as hell. You have to fish right before and at first light and then you have an hour or more at most after full dawn. Then it's over for the day.  Sitting there waiting in the dark at 10 degrees is a pain in the ass and why I don't often go anymore.


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